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  • Eleanor_W
    Eleanor_W Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2018

    Hi there,

    I've been following some of the research on whole body MRI for MBC patients & was wondering if anyone has used them in place of bone scans &/or other scanning modalities?

    Thanks,

    Eleanor

    One example:

    RESEARCH ARTICLE

    The added value of whole-body magnetic resonance imaging in the management of patients with advanced breast cancer

    Fabio Zugni, Francesca Ruju, Paola Pricolo,Sarah Alessi, Monica Iorfida, Marco Angelo Colleoni, Massimo Bellomi, Giuseppe Petralia

    • AbstractThis study investigates the impact of whole-body MRI (WB-MRI) in addition to CT of chest-abdomen-pelvis (CT-CAP) and 18F-FDG PET/CT (PET/CT) on systemic treatment decisions in standard clinical practice for patients with advanced breast cancer (ABC). WB-MRI examinations in ABC patients were extracted from our WB-MRI registry (2009–2017). Patients under systemic treatment who underwent WB-MRI and a control examination (CT-CAP or PET/CT) were included. Data regarding progressive disease (PD) reported either on WB-MRI or on the control examinations were collected. Data regarding eventual change in treatment after the imaging evaluation were collected. It was finally evaluated whether the detection of PD by any of the two modalities had induced a change in treatment. Among 910 WB-MRI examinations in ABC patients, 58 had a paired control examination (16 CT-CAP and 42 PET/CT) and were analysed. In 23/58 paired examinations, additional sites of disease were reported only on WB-MRI and not on the control examination. In 17/28 paired examinations, PD was reported only on WB-MRI and not on the control examination. In 14 out of the 28 pairs of examinations that were followed by a change in treatment, PD had been reported only on WBMRI (14/28; 50%), while stable disease had been reported on the control examination.In conclusion, WB-MRI disclosed PD earlier than the control examination (CT-CAP or PET/CT), and it was responsible alone for 50% of all changes in treatment.Citation: Zugni F, Ruju F, Pricolo P, Alessi S, Iorfida M, Colleoni MA, et al. (2018) The added value of whole-body magnetic resonance imaging in the management of patients with advanced breast cancer. PLoS ONE 13(10): e0205251. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0205251
  • blainejennifer
    blainejennifer Member Posts: 1,848
    edited November 2018

    Eleanor,

    I'll be having a MRI tomorrow, because my MO believes that it is superior at detecting bone deformities. We are on the hunt for a compression fracture as an explanation for pain.

    I had thought that since I have been extensively scanned (PET/CT) that any bone lesion would have been throughly documented, but - according to MO - MRIs rule for bone, PET/CT is better for soft tissue. As everyone is more concerned about my liver mets than my bone mets, I've had more PET scans.

    It seems that wise use of both imaging technologies would be the best course of action.

    Jennifer

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2018

    Not to be a science snob here (OK, I'm a total science snob), but there has to be something wrong with this study, either design, data collection or interpretation. PLoS ONE is [generally speaking] a journal of last resort. Which means that the cancer journals rejected the paper.

    It would be hard to tell without reading the whole thing.

    But. As blainejennifer says, each imaging modality has it's pluses and minuses.

  • Eleanor_W
    Eleanor_W Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2018

    Thanks so much to both of you for writing back. I agree that each test has areas of strengths & weaknesses & that multi-modal testing has its place for most of us.

    Jennifer, thank you for sharing your experience! It's helpful to hear the opinion of your MO. I hope that your test provides useful info that leads to some pain relief for you.

    Pajim, I appreciate a science-based approach & am not opposed to science snobbery : ) Your warning re: the value of a given journal is well-heeded. If this changes things at all, there is a recent article with similar conclusions (that the use of WB MRI may have a potential impact on treatment decisions for MBC) in the European Journal of Cancer. Two articles are not a body of research by any stretch of the imagination, but it was enough to make me curious whether any other MBCers had a doc that used WB MRI as part of a surveillance toolkit.

    Thanks again!

  • SandiBeach57
    SandiBeach57 Member Posts: 1,617
    edited November 2018

    Blainejennifer and pajim,

    I have been thinking of asking my MO if she would consider ordering a whole body contrast MRI instead of my routine quarterly Bone and contrast CT scans. No real reason, except interested in what is seen with a change of imaging modality.

    Should I even pursue this? Would insurance approval be a problem. And even more important, would MO think I am nuts?

  • blainejennifer
    blainejennifer Member Posts: 1,848
    edited November 2018

    Sandi,

    You don't have a baseline for the MRI, so it would be very hard (I think) to accurately assess your progression/stability/remission.

    Now, if you could get both . . . .

    Jennifer

  • Iwrite
    Iwrite Member Posts: 870
    edited November 2018

    Jennifer- Hoping the MRI helps answer tha pain question for you.

    Thinking out loud here...with lobular it was only the MRI that saw cancer spread across both breasts when all other tests saw one tiny spot. It seems possible that WB MRI would be a worthwhile tool to assess ILC customers. I like the fact that there would be no extra radiation. (Alas- the contrast is hard on the body as well.)

    I have a CT plus a brain MRI next month. I will ask about WB MRI when I meet with my Onc.

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