Chemo before surgery

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Mariett
Mariett Member Posts: 45
edited November 2018 in Just Diagnosed

I found a lump back in June but my doctor couldn't feel anything however when I went back for my mammo in October the doctor felt the lump but it didn't show on recent mammos or sonogram. I had a biopsy done last week and was told yesterday it is stage 2 breast cancer. I am scheduled for 8 chemo sessions followed by a double mastectomy . I forgot to ask the doctor at the time why they do chemo then surgery. I would really like to get the lump out as soon as possible and not have to wait 6 months. Is there a reason why they do chemo first?

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  • Each_day_2018
    Each_day_2018 Member Posts: 154
    edited October 2018

    From what I understand, they will do it first to try to shrink the tumor, which can probably give you more options for surgery. For me, I had surgery first and just started chemo. I am really small breasted, so regardless of tumor size, a lumpectomy wasn't an option.

    I'm really surprised they were able to tell you a stage already; my doctor couldn't tell me stage until the pathology report came back from my mastectomy.

  • Each_day_2018
    Each_day_2018 Member Posts: 154
    edited October 2018

    Also, if you are able, get a second opinion, if that will make you feel better. They might provide a different treatment plan.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    it also helps them to see how the cancer responds to the chemo. But I also did surgery first, due to the circumstances around my diagnosis.


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited October 2018

    Hi!

    You don't say what kind of cancer you have. Are you triple negative? ER-/PR-/HER2-? Are you HER2+? Those kinds of cancer are more likely to be treated with neoadjuvant chemo.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2018

    Didn't see tumor size in your sig line, but if it's quite large, chemo is used to shrink it so that surgery can have a better result overall. I support previous post suggesting second opinion, too. My lumpectomy was actually an excisional biopsy, so I didn't have any choice but to have the problem out first, and then find out what it was.

    Claire in AZ

  • Mariett
    Mariett Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2018

    My doctor just told me I had T2 N0, he said stage 2 because the tumor is less than 5cm and lymph nodes looked normal on the mammogram. I haven't gotten the full pathology details yet but once I do I will update my profile. I went for a Abdomen/Chest cat scan today and I have a bone scan Friday so hopefully they come back negative . I can handle the diagnosis I got but if the cancer has spread anywhere else I think I will find it hard to handle. I will definitely get a second opinion once I get all the scans done.

  • CaliKelly
    CaliKelly Member Posts: 474
    edited October 2018

    My understanding is chemo first is to shrink the tumor down so maybe a lumpectomy can be done instead of mastectomy. In my case I had lymph node involvement, I had chemo first because sometimes you can get a complete pathological response, which means the cancer is at that time, undetectable. But ,even though my tumor shrunk a lot, it was still there, and in my lymph nodes. Good luck, and it is never a bad idea to get second opinion. Doctors sometimes like to recommend what theyre familiar with, treatment wise.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited October 2018

    Yes - often the chemo first is to try to shrink the tumor before surgery, giving a better chance for lumpectomy or easier mastectomy. It's also almost always recommended for triple positive BC.

    Having chemo first will allow the drugs to work on any possible cancer cells anywhere in your body right away. I know that most people are anxious to get the cancer out as soon as possible, but it's important to treat all of you in some cases. I had NAC and no cancer was found at the time of surgery!

    I'm always a proponent of second opinions. Even if the recommendation is the same - it helps to hear another MD's explanation. And having faith in your team is super important, too.

  • Mariett
    Mariett Member Posts: 45
    edited November 2018

    I went for a second opinion and the oncologist I saw wants to do surgery first , that way she can do an Oncotype DX and determine which chemo treatment would suit my needs.  I am starting to think this is the way to go.  I was due to start chemo next Thursday but I think I will go with the second opinion and see the surgical oncologist there next Thursday instead.  I also heard from a relative who is an oncologist in Michigan and she agreed with the surgery first approach.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2018

    That's great news, Mariett. Glad you got a second opinion, which to me sounds logical and sound.

    Claire

  • Dornob
    Dornob Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2018

    After my yearly mammogram In June 2017, I was diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma, stage 2, grade 3 (3cm x 2 cm in diameter) HER2/NEU Positive (3+1) in my right breast. I received treatments Docetaxel (Taxotere), Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Pertuzumab (Perjeta) before surgery.

    When treatments of these cancer drugs ended, I was told the tumor had shrunk and no longer existed. On December 22, 2017 I had a complete mastectomy followed by reconstruction. The two lymph nodes that were surgically removed were cancer free eliminating the need of radiation. After surgery I continued to take Trastuzumab (Herceptin) for a year..

    One of many side effects with the drug Taxotere, is permanent hair loss. I became one of those unlucky few who appears to have permanent baldness, loss of eyebrows and eye lashes due to this drug. While I thank God that all seems well with my health now, I am not happy with my hair loss. I was told the class action law suite against the Taxotere company are for those who received treatment before 2015 as this was before there was a warning label of this possible side effect. (FYI)


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