Uni or double
Hi
I am new here and trying to decide between a double mx or uni mx. Has anyone just had uni and gone on to develop cancer in other healthy breast?
Thanks
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I just had my DMX in July. As soon as I was diagnosed I knew I would go that route. I don't know what the statistic are for getting BC in the other breast I just knew that i didn't want to have to go through this again. I questioned it after the surgery because of all the pain the following weeks after but once I got over that I am still happy with my decision.
Good luck in your decision, it's not an easy one to make and you have to be comfortable with your decision.
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i was diagnosed in june. Then tested for brca mutation..i came up brca2 +. So off they both went. I really had no choice. But i would do both at the same time. Why spend time worrying about the other breast? Just my opinion.
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It’s a tough call. I went with a uni, to keep sensation/nipple on one side. No (known) genetic component, and my mother in law had bc in her 40s, what I would call a radical lumpectomy on one side, and lived to be 88, dying of non breast cancer causes. So, no regrets yet.
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I went double. They say no greater risk in “healthy” breast yet you go on an intensive schedule of mammos/mri every six months on that breast if you go uni. Mom always said actions speak louder than words - if no additional risk why the increased testing/surveillance and why does insurance pay for it? I also wanted my breasts to feel the same-it would be weird to me to have nipple sensation in 1 but not the other. Are you considering reconstruction? If so, make sure you investigate natural tissue reconstruction as well as traditional implant recon.
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discuss this with your breast surgeon and oncologist. Understand your cancer details and family history. All of those things should factor in to your decision.
My recurrence risk is low and a double didn’t make a significant difference. Another factor for me was that while a bmx wouldn’t have reduce my recurrence risk it would double my risk for surgical complications from mastectomy as well as with reconstruction.
I get an annual mammogram on my natural breast. I don’t have routine MRIs.
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Do you plan on having reconstruction? There are several methods of reconstruction that can give great results, but there is also a potential for increased risk of complications with reconstruction of a double vs a unilateral mastectomy. However, with a double mastectomy, many women do find relief in the stress/worry aspect of the stepped up monitoring of the "normal' breast. I ended up having a double. I'm in healthcare, and every time I go past the mammogram center I breathe a little easier knowing that I won't be on a regular cycle of imaging and waiting for results.
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I'm getting a BMX for multiple reasons.
If I had a lumpectomy...
1. I would need most of the breast reconstructed so doesn't really make sense to keep it.
2. I would need radiation and have been exposed to a lot of radiation this year already.
3. I may have a high local recurrence risk.
If I had a unilateral mastectomy...
1. It would be difficult reconstruct my the new breast such that it matched the healtht one.
2. There is a history of bilateral breast cancer in my family so if I am taking off one, I might as well take off the other one, get matching reconstructions and eliminate my chance of having breast cancer develop in the "good" breast.
3. I have dense breasts and my breast cancer was misdiagnosed the first time. It could happen again in the "good" breast if I keep it and it might not be caught in time....maybe this time it wasn't caught in time?
The reasons for me not to get a BMX would mainly be the risks associated with such a big surgery and the fact that trauma can "wake" dormant cancer cells that have metastastic capabilities. The potential for this may be minimized with the use of anti inflammatory drugs during surgery, which my doctors are willing to try.
I may have done a lumpectomy though if my cancer had been properly diagnosed the first time when it was small.
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wow, thanks for that reply. Can you tell me more about the anti inflammatory during surgery?
I have decided on dmx.
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Samnjb:
One of them is goes by the generic name Ketorolac. There is a bleeding risk associated with it so different facilities or surgeons might be wary about using it in some instances but by chance, they actually use it as a standard post surgical anti inflammatory at the facility I am having surgery at if a person's platelets are high enough.
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I did BMX. I knew I would be obsessed with worrying about a recurrence in the other one, so this was best for me and I don't regret it at all.
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Yes, I had a unilateral mastectomy and four and one half years later developed a new primary in my remaining "healthy" breast. This new primary was very close to triple negative, ( mildly progesterone positive). Going through this twice was an absolute nightmare. I developed PTSD from the ordeal.
Take home message from me. If I had even an inkling that I would develop another malignancy in my so called healthy breast.....I would have had a bilateral mastectomy from the getgo. I was blissfully unaware though, thinking that I was low risk. I wasn't
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I opted for a BMX also. No regrets. I did not want to go through every 6mths of following up on the breast which be left etc. My anxiety is always high normally. I orig was dx'd with IDC but after surgery it was changed to ILC which they told me the risk of cancer in the other breast goes up slightly, so I def had no regrets.
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My surgery is next week and I still can’t decide wether to do a uni or bilateral MX. I talked to Onco today, I was told the risk of recurrence and getting another cancer again in any part of our body will not be lessen by removing the healthy breast. Recurrence happen first to the breast but it can happen in any body part. My question is, if recurrence is deemed to happened, wouldn’t you rather have it in your breast than lungs? Can somebody please point out to me the benefits of removing the healthy breast
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I have decided on a double. Just diagnosed with DCIS but cancer runs in the family and I don't want to go through this again. I also do not want to go through chemo or radiation.. So many decisions. You say you are happy with results.. did you opt for reconstruction at the time of the mastectomy? I cannot decide if I want recon or not. I just want the invasion of my chest to be finished.
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Dear Kake,
Welcome to the BCO community. We are sorry that your breast cancer diagnosis brought you here but glad that you reached out for support and information. We are offering this link to information on all things Surgery related on our main site. Perhaps there is more information there that might at least help you develop further questions for your doctor. You also can send a private message to the members from whom you are seeking more information. They might see that quicker. Let us know if you need more help. The Mods
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I did not have recon after BMX. I'm so glad I opted for the BMX and while it has taken me a bit of time to get used to flat and fabulous, I'm happy that I didn't do reconstruction. My BMX was enough surgery. No regrets at all.
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Anxiouslady, I am 8 months out from UMX and so far happy with my decision. I like having my remaining natural breast, and recovery was somewhat easier, but I do worry about recurrence.
One reason I did UMX instead of BMX was that I am still hoping to have a family and be able to nurse. I'm not sure whether doctors would have encouraged BMX in other circumstances. Everyone's situation and pros and cons are different. Good luck to you. Let us know what you decide.
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no sweetie I had uni L mast thought bout lumpectomy cause was making 2nd marriage plans but went with mastectomy and with Hope Positive thinking and my faith in now 24yr Survivor Praise God. msphil idc stage2 0/3 nodes 3mo chemo before and after Lmast got married 42 at diagnosis then 7wks rads then Honeymoon 5yrs on Tamoxifen
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... opted for bilateral mastectomy to avoid prescribed radiation . When the pathology report came back there was a small mass, not yet a tumor, undetected by mammograms and biopsies... in my so called non-cancerous breast.
Avoiding the radiation, by opting for a bilateral mastectomy, turned out to be the best way forward for me.
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Bilateral for me too. I hate when I hear the term “healthy breast”. The other breast is only healthy til it’s not. In the 2 weeks between my mammogram and biopsy on the calcifications in my left breast and the breast MRI, my right breast was the healthy breast. Post-MRI left breast was the healthy breast since it just had calcifications, righty had IDC hiding in it not seen on mammo. And before that mammogram, both breasts were healthy. They’re only healthy til they’re not.
Anxiouslady - removing both breasts reduces your chance of developing a recurrence or new cancer in the other breast by 97%. All the docs say that your risk of developing cancer in the other breast isn’t increased because of a diagnosis in the one breast. However, you know the old saying, “Actions speak louder than words”? If there’s no increased risk, why do the docs order increased surveillance every 6 month mammos sometimes alternating with U/S or MRI of the remaining breast after uni-mx vs keeping with the standard once a year? Why does insurance pay for it if there’s no increased risk? 97% risk reduction vs stress and anxiety every 6months when it’s time for yet another mammo. In addition, symmetry in how the breasts/your chest looks and feels is another reason. For some it just puts their mind at ease. Avoiding rads is another excellent reason. Just some things to think about.
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lula, you took the words RIGHT out of my mouth. Couldn’t have said it better.
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Lula, Yes!! I'm facing this decision myself after being diagnosed in my left breast and now having 4 areas biopsied and thinking if there is more cancer in the same breast but one healthy, taking them both off. If both, of course. Clearly there's increased risk because they up your surveillance. Symmetry, and not having worry is another reason, and no rads. I may opt for lumpectomy of all those are benign, but def both ifnot, or even if they are inconclusive.
Plus I have extremely dense tissue so this diagnostic process has been long and drawn out
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I chose BMX, told surgeon I couldn’t do this stress again.
I had chemo, surgery and rads, no recon, and AI
Was told I was high risk for reoccurrence. 6 years later I’m still clear, with my port, and still flat.
It’s very personal decision only you, not Dr, DH, or friend can make.
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Hi. It was easier to care for my drains post surgery with the Uni. My husband and I like the natural breast because of the nipple sensation. I was not a great candidate for reconstruction
For me, the % risk favored keeping the left breast. I have a stereostatoc biopsy on the left, which allowed me to be mentally okay with my decision.
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Hi Samnjb, We all welcome you here. So, sorry for your new diagnosis. Do you have a family history of Breast Cancer? I do. I was 40 when I was diagnosed with IDC in my left breast. I had only my left breast removed. I did not have a double Mastectomy. Its been 12 years now, and, the Cancer has never come back into my right breast. But, I do have a number of Oil Cysts in there. They are benign. Non-Cancerous. I think looking back now, I would of had a Double done. Its all overwhelming at first, but, you just take your time on making a decision. Keep us updated honey. Good Luck and Blessings!
Kaloni
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My right breast has been troublesome since I was 18. I nursed two babies for a total of 5 years. I am 68 now, and single. Unlikely to re-marry. I was called in for an ultrasound of old righty on the third, which was unconclusive, so they did a biopsy. I have been going to the city on Thursdays since then. I have DCIS right behind the nipple, grade 3, with a suspicious area of micro-calcifications elsewhere in the troublesome one. They offered me a lumpectomy with radiation, but I want to avoid radiation (5 days a week for 3 1/2 weeks to the city was my initial objection). I will be having a mastectomy, probably without restoration.
I want the least invasive solution, because I also have peripheral neuropathy, which means that injured nerves don't heal right. I have a breast MRI next Wednesday, with a meeting with the plastic surgeon in the morning, and a meeting with the breast surgeon and probably other members of the team in the afternoon. I just sent a message to my chiropractor asking about chiropractic and neurological implications of unilateral mastectomy, should my good breast be clear of disease. Dense breasts, not large, but soft and saggy.
I have a same-age cousin who had BC a few years ago, and our grandmother had BC, also post-menopausal. Robin, I am much like you, in that ER and PR are both negative.
Has anyone who had UMX regretted it because of back pain as a result of lop-sidedness?
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One question to be answered: has your mammogram ever reported "dense breast tissue"? If so, finding a problem in a remaining breast could be much harder, since dense tissue makes it harder to find those problems using scans. It might help someone who is deciding for or against a UMX.
Your mammogram report should include this. If not, call the radiology office that did the mammogram, and ask about it.
Claire in AZ
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Yes, when I had the mammo, the tech discussed a new technology which is for dense breasts, and she said that both breasts have areas of density.
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