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JaBoo
That's so weird, I have a small lump on my forehead too. So with my recent diagnosis, I finally took it more seriously, saw a dermatologist and she thought she saw a basal cell carcinoma there. Saw another dermatologist and he said he was 99 % sure there was no carcinoma there, but they still did a biopsy. Now the lump is twice the size, and hurts, which I hope is swelling. I feel I look like Frankenstein lol
Fingers crossed for my PET-CT scan this week. The most important test, and they did it last....
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Fritz, so sorry to see you in our waiting room! I read that sometimes there is no lump. It means that cancer cells are not in the cluster. This is a scary journey, but you have no choice but embarking on it. Take one day at a time. Ask for anti-anxiety meds, they will help a little. We are here for you. We know how you feel because all of us went through it too. So rant, complain, be mad, say what you like, we will support you in all stages of this nightmare.
Amica, this is horrible that you can’t get a second opinion! Hope the lump on your forehead isn’t basal cell carcinoma and the swelling goes down soon. Good luck on your PET scan!
JaBoo, the Radcomp study is great, of course, but I’ve been randomized into the regular photon group anyway. Oh, well, never had any luck with lotteries.
I am 1.5 weeks PFC and started to feel a little better. Radiation will start on October 8.
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Hi there. I had my annual screening this past Monday and a doctor from the hospital called me on Tuesday morning saying they found something and wanted to have a closer look. She asked if I could come in immediately so I was there within the hour. They did another 3D mammogram and had the radiologist look at it, then they said I needed a bilateral ultrasound. I got that and the tech said she would go have the radiologist review it and if all was good she would come tell me I could leave. Nope, she came back and said the radiologist needed to speak with me. So off to the consultation room I went. The radiologist said that she was sorry and that I have breast cancer at 12 o'clock, something that looked benign, but was a little suspicious at 7-8 and two thickened axillary nodes. She said it was going to be a long year ahead, but they would get me through it. So, I have cancer? I was shocked. She said she needed to do 3 biopsies and that she would stay late after her last appointment and do the biopsies, which she did. Apparently, she talked to my doctor as well...is that normal? I already have a breast cancer team at MD Anderson on standby if the results are confirmed. I am suppose to have results tomorrow. Are radiologists pretty accurate? She seemed to believe I had cancer. I am so nervous.
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fsaucedo18:
That first day from that first routine mammo to cancer diagnosis will seem like the fastest day in your life - so much information to come to terms with so quickly. Now the waiting starts which will be the longest days in your life. You've come to the right place. There are so many wise woman (and men) on this forum that can help you get through this. Keep us posted.
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fsaucedo18---Welcome. I am sorry you find yourself here but the support and wisdom on these boards is awesome. In my opinion the radiologists are pretty accurate at identifying suspicious lumps. But the definitive test will be a biopsy of the lump and lymph nodes. Good luck. Let us know how it goes. You really can't do better than M.D. Anderson so you know you will be getting world-class care.
InnaB- I'm glad you're starting to feel a bit better. I'm still fighting to at least get a cursory second opinion, otherwise I need to get one from the U.S. which is a lot of hassle. But these Ontario cancer centers don't play around: once you are "lucky" enough to get into one, the attitude from the other centers is that you should realize how lucky you are, not bother them because they have their own patients to attend to, and just be a good patient at your own center. It's a very rigid, non-patient-centered system, that because of my decades of living in the U.S. I have trouble adapting to. If you live in a small town, like I do, you are stuck with your regional cancer center and that is that, you have very little chance of being seen or getting a second opinion at one of the larger centers in Toronto.
I have my PET-CT scan on Tuesday. I am so afraid, not of the test, but the results. But better to know.
I had the biopsy on my forehead for that lump last Monday and for some reason the soreness from the biopsy site makes my whole head ache so it has not been a good week
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Amica, do you have results of your biopsy?
Fsaucedo18, welcome to our somber waiting room. I had a similar experience on the day I was diagnosed: Mammo, ultrasound, then radiologist walks in and says he spoke with my OB/gyn and he needs to biopsy my lump. 20 min later he called me into his office and broke the unwelcome news. I wish you good luck, because this road is not easy. But we are here for you! Keep us posted
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InnaB - no I don't have the biopsy results from my forehead yet, they said 2 weeks, I had it on Sept 17th
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hello Colleen - would love to join you in the waiting game..I’m on my own waiting journey ..
i was diagnosed with IDC stage 2b BC in 2014, had a local recurrence in 2016. In late 2016, my L1 vertebra lit up in the PET. When they biopsied it, it came back negative and also MRI scan confirmed this negative result. Was so happy then. They chalked it up to an injury or something.
Since then I have had a clear PET scan every few months, the latest one in May 2018. And now in Sept, the PET scan again showed the L1 vertebra in the back lit up again but a lot more than in 2016.
And so here I am again waiting to get a biopsy done on my back. My docs (I see a local MO in Atlanta and one in MD Anderson) are concerned that it’s bone Mets. Waiting is so hard and I feel like the writing is on the wall this time. I am losing my mind. Also v confused with a negative diagnosis 2 years ago and the same thing flaring up again.
Would love to hear from you ladies..worried sick
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Amica, good luck on your scan tomorrow! You’ll be in my thoughts and prayers. Let us know how it goes!
Inna, sorry you didn’t get the arm you wanted.
I know you’re anxious to begin and get done either way. How many do you have to do? I had 28 regular and 5 boosts-today was my first boost and I’ll be done Friday. Fsaucedo, I’m so sorry you’re joining us.
It does sound like your radiologist was pretty certain about things. I hope she was wrong, but if not, please know we’re here for you! Please let us know what you found out. Utopria, welcome! We are sorry you’re here but happy to have you join us. Ugghhh, I can only imagine how stressed you are waiting for those results. I’m so sorry! When will you have your biopsy done? I am crossing my fingers and toes that it’s not mets. I would also be confused that it was clear last time it lit up. Are you in pain? Wonder if it’s some sort of injury that had worsened. Please keep us updated and in the meantime, few free to rant and rave and cry and whatever else you need to do. Hugs

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utopria, so sorry to see you here, but welcome! We’ll wait with you. I hope your tests come back negative.
Coleen, I will start rads on October 8. Had my mapping and tattoos today. I will have 25 treatments. Not sure about how many boosts i’ll get. Will definitely ask the doctor. What was your experience with radiation
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I had 33 radiation treatments. No issues except a bit of burning and fatigue halfway through. Hope your treatments go well too. I was 7 years out last month.
Utopria- so sorry you are dealing with the beast again. My sister had a local recurrence 4 years out. She’s had radiation and gets shots every month. She’s allergic to chemo. Hope the biopsy shows nothing serious. I am sure you are anxious. Completely understandable. We are waiting with you and praying for a good result.
Keep us posted and keep the faith.
Diane
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Good luck with the scan!
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Inna,
My experience has been pretty good. The only long-lasting complaint I have is that I’ve been very tired the whole time. Nothing impossible to manage though. Just try to take naps and a little grumpy maybe.
My skin had no changes for about 4 weeks, then got red fairly quickly. It’s now bright red and peeling some, but it’s not painful, just sensitive. One mistake I made was allowing my oncology nurse to put a band aid over my port (in the radiation area) last week. I just wasn’t thinking. That night I went to pull it off and my whole top layer of skin came with it! OUCH! -
Amica, I hope the biopsy from your forehead shows nothing else than a visual issue!
Utopria, I'm so sorry to hear about your back pain and biopsy. I hope it's just your body trying to heal an injury...
Coleen, thank you for sharing your radiation experience. I'll have rads sometime at the end of the year. Glad it went well for you, and wish you speedy healing of the redness. Ouch the bandaid!
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Hi waiting friends, I disappeared a bit into my first round of AC followed by a sinus infection that scared me to death due to the risk of febrile neutropenia. I am back on the up now and trying to follow up on an online second opinion in the states. The gears are moving very slowly.
Fritz, fsaucedo and Utopria, so sorry you are here with us. Hoping for the best news for both of you. I've found this such a wonderful supportive place to wait, hope you can gain some strength and comfort here.
Amica - thinking of you and your PET/CT today. Do you know when you'll get the results? Do keep us posted and let us know if you've had any movement with a second opinion at all.
Jaboo - sorry you are waiting again, too, and in pain! But v happy to hear your good news. It reminds me to push my MO again about genetic testing.
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beeline, glad you are feeling better and hope things get moving on your second opinion!
I’m waiting for a breast MRI right now. Just checkingthings out now that I’m a few months post-surgery to make sure everything still looks good. I hate these things...hope it goes fast. And don’t get the results till Monday morning. Here I am waiting again!
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Amica - I cannot believe how difficult they make it to get a second opinion in Canada. Question though: if you do get a second opinion, and they recommend a different treatment plan, will the Canadian health system be open to implementing it? Or will they just say, no, we think this and so that's what you get?
Inna - congrats on finishing chemo, that is the best feeling. Good luck with rads.
I'm scheduled for my second opinion on rads at MD Anderson on Monday. I fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening.
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Beeline, I think we are too young to deal with this... so many young ones here, it's sick. F&*#ing Cancer. glad your sinus infection has cleared! AC was tough for me from 3rd dose, hang in there!
Coleen, waiting again! I wish you good news on Monday!
hapa, good luck with your 2nd opinion!
I'm also in the waiting now, double waiting in fact. Next Thursday, two appointments: an ultrasound for my painful boob in the morning, I've already posted about it here. And in the afternoon, a 2nd opinion on my next treatment steps + possible BMX. This appointment is in the capital, which is 4 hours by train. Unfortunatelly I have to go alone, since DH must take care of the kids.
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No, I had no luck whatsoever getting a second opinion or a transfer from 2 hospitals in Ontario, and my oncologist and family doctor said they will not send any more requests for second opinions at all. Both requests were turned down because I live outside of the Toronto area.
beeline: So I too am looking at getting an on-line second opinion from the U.S., but there is so much they want, my records are scattered at different hospitals in different cities, so I will start on the Ibrance/Letrozole regime, and spend the next month or so working on getting the slides, images, and paperwork that Cleveland Clinic requires. IF I have the energy. Ibrance is supposed to cause fatigue and I'm already extremely fatigued
My oncologist wrote an extremely dismissive rude comment about me in her Clinical Notes. I see her tomorrow, and have been obsessing about how to address it with her. I would really like to go over her head and address it with the division chief and ask him how this kind of thing can be allowed.. You have patients fighting for their lives.. They shouldn't be being disparaged by the very oncologist who is supposed to be providing care for them. I should probably ask if I could be assigned a different oncologist at that center, I don't think you get to pick one though, and am afraid I'll get one who is even worse.
Any normal cancer center would let a patient know their PET-CT results ASAP but I am dealing with a bunch of jerks and apparently they are quite content to just let me wait until my doctor has them. Even worse, they WILL NOT SHOW YOU the actual report, even if the doctor is holding it in her hands a few feet away. You have to go to patient records and pay $30 for it. I hate this hospital so much I cannot even express it.
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I am so glad I'm not Canadian right now.
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Amica, that's so terrible, I am at loss for words! And I thought our health care system is difficult with the state insurance and such. At least I get a record of each appiontment handed to me automatically. But my 2nd opinion I am going to get next week is by no means official. I have contacted the MO specialist (specializes in patients under 40) by myself, outside of his office hours, without my MO knowing (I will tell her now, I like my MO). But I am able to do this because I have complete records with me. I am so sorry they make such fuss about patients records in Canada! That's so sick
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hapa - good luck with your second opinion from M.D. Anderson! They are the best

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JaBoo
It's especially concerning that my hospital won't share patient records with the patient considering that I found a mistake on my pathology report. Only way I found it was because my family doctor was kind enough to give me a copy of my pathology report.
First I was PR negative, then it said PR positive. I actually called the pathologist and asked, "Oh, did my PR status actually change?", and he apologized and said it was an error, and he would correct it back to negative. But of course what bothers me is that I was the one who found the mistake, it makes me wonder how carefully anyone is keeping track of my case.
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Amica, oh, finding a mistake on your own, gosh. One wonders what other errors could be hidden... I hope you will be able to gather all your reports and I am sending virtual hugs!
I experienced stg similar at hospital during my lumpectomy. They declined my request to see the path report from the first operation. They even said I don't need to see it, since I wouldn't understand it!!! That really made me mad, I thought to myself even if I wanted to make an origami out of that paper, it's my report and I have the right to see it. Well, so I got it through a young nurse later, I simply asked and made a photo of the report with my phone. But it had already changed things for me and the delay has made some damage which I am trying to correct now, with my unofficial 2nd opinion. I will never go back to that hospital for any operation in the future.
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Amica and Jaboo, what a nightmare! I honestly can't believe you're being refused your own records. I am worried about getting specimens and samples for my second opinion, but mostly because I think it will be a pain. Anytime I ask for a copy of a report at an appointment it is printed off and handed to me. I'm so sorry you're both dealing with/have dealt with that.
Re: mistakes on pathology - my surgeon told me there was a typo in the "N" staging on my surgical path report, that it shouldn't have been N3 so I spent ages worrying that there had been some mistake and trying to understand how I was 3C. Now I think she was just wrong. Not that it matters as she seems to have dumped me. My 6 month follow up is with a different doctor for some reason. But I could see when she gave me my surgical path results that she was done with me or felt she could do nothing else for me -- after telling me I was Stage 1A and would only need surgery....
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Oh, God, Amica, this is horrible! Do you have a patient’s advocate in the hospital? Or a social worker? Your story brought back my long lost memories from living in the Soviet Union and dealing with the doctors there. It sounds very familiar, because the doctors back there thought the are doing us, the patients, a favor by seeing us and dealing with us. Rudeness and incompetence was routine. Of course, there were great doctors as well, but it was always very difficult to get to them. It’s disgusting to be treated like a piece of meat. Can you pay out of your pocket and see another doctor
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hapa- this is completely coincidence but I am also going to MDAnderson for a second opinion Monday morning! Wow! Small world. I’m scheduled to start AC 10/9 which I suspected. But I also wanted an outside source to “confirm” everything. I also had a question about whether I would need radiation after. My MO said no because there was no extravapsular something. But I’m just not sure.
I’ve never been there before but heard it was great!
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hapa, sadly-good luck on your appointments Monday!
Amica-it is more expensive (of course argh) but when I was looking at Cleveland clinic online, there was an option where you could have an outside person collect all of your records and specimens and send them for you. Did you see that? I will look back at it if you didn’t and try to find where it was for you. It’s a few hundred dollars more, but that would take the burden off of you having to try to gather all of your information.
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In the US, HIPAA guarantees your right to see your medical record.
Best of luck to everyone getting follow-ups and second opinions.
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Had my consult with the rad onc at MD Anderson yesterday. It was sooooo worth the trip. He was able to lay out the risks and benefits of radiation such that radiation now seems like a no brainer. He said that risk of lymphedema for patients like me (with ALND and getting rads) is around 15% nationally right now, but each institution has their own rate based on how they do surgery and radiation, and at MDA they have a single digit rate of lymphedema for ALND patients and that doing radiation adds about 1% more risk. He also said that obesity and something else that I can't recall but don't have (IBC maybe) increased the risk of lymphedema, and doing PT during rads reduced it. I also found out that doing chest wall only isn't a good idea because if they have to go back and do the lymph nodes later, there is more toxicity than if you did them both up front. They see no benefit to doing proton beam therapy for people getting whole breast radiation, but they do see more skin toxicity with it so they don't recommend it. What else...they use breath hold technique and mepitel to reduce collateral damage, but even so I should expect the skin in the irradiated areas to be permanently dry and thus will have to moisturize it for the rest of my life. I'm not excited about that. He said with all my risk factors, he put my risk of LRR at 18-22% and could reduce it with radiation to 6-10%, and that should also bring my DM risk down by 3-4%. This is in line with what I've read elsewhere - that for every 3-4% reduction in locoregional recurrence there is a 1% reduction in distant metastasis. He also mentioned that most lymphedema is treatable if caught early, and for 80-90% of lymphedema patients it is reversible. He also said that in 22 years at MDA he's only seen one patient come back with a sarcoma caused by radiation and it was one of his colleagues patients. So its a very low rate. He mentioned that pnuematosis is generally considered a short term SE but can take up to a year to clear. And it is likely that the skin will be discolored permanently as well, but the effect is more like a light tan on that side of the chest.
So I feel much better about doing radiation now, but I'd really like to do it with this guy and not the RO I have here. That will be really complicated. I will have to relocate to Texas for six weeks, plus make a trip out for the simulation scan. And then follow up twice a year for five years. Not to mention renting a place and taking another six weeks off work. If I can't work remote or get disability (and I won't be disabled, just not in town) that will be a loss of income. Plus I'll be separated from my husband and my poor dog...he is a rescue and he hasn't really warmed up to my husband for reasons unknown. I'm also still on herceptin so I'll have to get with an MO out there as well to continue with it, and I'll be due for an ECG at the end of the month...it seems like so much trouble to do it there. But considering I'll have to live with the outcome for the rest of my life, I feel like the six+ weeks worth of trouble is worth it.
I put a call into MDA today to see if I they will continue with Herceptin based on my current MO's orders or if I'll have to consult with a MO there. I am waiting for the onc nurse to call me back. I go back to work tomorrow and I'll talk to my boss about the additional time off. I don't forsee any major problems there considering I still have six weeks of FMLA left and my boss's mother has MBC and his DIL was just diagnosed with BC as well. He is very sympathetic.
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