Port Placement and Scarring - for those with cosmetic concerns

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windgirl
windgirl Member Posts: 340
edited October 2018 in Just Diagnosed

hi ladies,

I wanted to write this post in case it would benefit any newly diagnosed ladies who have not yet gotten a port. I had my port in for one year, and got it removed August 2015. I have a horizontal scar that is visible when I wear tank tops or v necks etc. Over the past year it developed a keloid and I just had it re-done by a plastic surgeon. My port insertion and removal was done at the hospital I forget which department it is but basically people who put in ports all the time. Anyway, the plastic surgeon was explaining me that when she is involved at the beginning when the port is being placed, instead of using a horizontal incision, which is what all port incisions I've seen look like, she will use a vertical incision at a place that would be right under the bra strap. She said horizontal scars don't heal well in the upper chest area where the ports are placed due to tension, and that the vertical ones heal much better. Also by placing under the bra strap it is not only less visible but the strap also helps to keep it flat.

I know the last thing you are probably thinking of is cosmetic concerns of the port, but I wanted to post this in case it would help anyone. If this is something you would be interested in, of course ch ck with your doctor to make sure it is appropriate for you. Wish you all the best of luck and strength during this difficult time

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  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited January 2017

    Interesting information - thank you! I was fortunate enough not to have much scarring - I never see it unless I really look for it.

    But I know this can be an issue for some women.

  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited January 2017

    OH please moderators tag this at the top of the thread Forever. If I had only known I would have insisted that my plastic surgeon put in my port. Where my port is placed like everyone elses in a very conspicous spot. It is such a painful reminder of my breast cancer. It shows with almost every shirt I wear and if I had known there was any way to not have this Horizontal scar right in my neckline I would have. The scar for my port bothers me far more than my breast cancer scars.

    Also your Plastic surgeon is correct the horizontal scar is under exteme tension where they put the port and yes it is very difficult to heal in that location. I tried to have scar revision surgery because of my port placement but was told that it wasn't possible because of the high tension in the area. I did have fat injected under the scar so it didn't have a big dent like many of them do when the port is removed.

  • reflect
    reflect Member Posts: 576
    edited January 2017

    Oh I wish I had known this! I just had mine removed and it did not heal well and it bothers me too. I am not overly concerned with my appearance but it is an unnecessary reminder. My lumpectomy scar--which is quite long as I had multiple small tumors, and they removed 11 oz of tissue--is healing beautifully. What the heck? Great info for others, thank you!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited January 2017

    A friend of mine had a port and even 5 years later it is an ugly scar. Very jagged and red purple after 5 years and she is only in her thirties.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2017

    I have to give the other side. My BS put in my port. I was told ahead of time to draw the outline of my bra on my chest so they would NOT put the port under my bra strap to cause friction & rubbing & discomfort. My port installation scar was horizontal and approx 3 inches below my collar bone. I kept my port for 3 years and never had a problem, and the initial scar was gone before I had the port removed. The same BS also removed the port in July 2016. Again that scar is horizontal and already it has faded to be barely noticeable.

    I'm sorry those of you have posted to this thread have had problems. I just wanted new members to know there are lots of success stories also.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Dear all,

    My PS, when he did the reconstruction of my BMX, also worked on my port scar to make it less noticeable. It was done same time as the plastic surgery and all was covered by insurance.

    Claire in AZ

  • meg2016
    meg2016 Member Posts: 287
    edited January 2017

    This has me wondering whether I could do my port removal at the same time as my exchange surgery? Since my PS will be there for the exchange? I am going to check into this. I hadn't decided when to have it removed since I am still getting Herceptin, but maybe that would make the most sense.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    meg2016, since I had mine out as soon as chemo was over, and I had my BMX/recon a year later, I can't say for sure that it could happen...but I don't know why you couldn't have them do that since your PS will be there. Ask him to work on the scar at the same time; it makes sense to do both at once, so good idea!

    Claire

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited January 2017

    I had my port removed during my DIEP reconstruction surgery. No need for a new incision on top of the port, since it was pulled from underneath.

    A few weeks back I was gazing at my nekkid self in the mirror and noticed that the straight, horizontal port placement scar, although well healed, didn't blend at all with the natural curves and creases of my chest. A vertical, slightly curved incision would have almost disappeared as it healed.

    My son's a radiologist who puts in a lot of ports, and I discussed it with him--he thought would work fine for the surgery part, with an added benefit of being a hopeful way to approach the procedure. No doctor can promise anybody anything, of course...but if my surgeon makes a thoughtful incision based on what it's going to look like five years from now, that's a very nice touch.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2017

    meg - some PS will remove ports some won't, but there is no reason your port could not be removed at that time if your MO is on board with removing it.

    Also, wanted to let any/all know that my port was put in at the time of my BMX since I already knew I would need chemo since I had a 2.6cm Her2+ tumor. If you know that you will need chemo this may be an option for you - either put in by your BS or by an interventional radiologist or vascular surgeon that steps in during BMX and uses this technique. My BS installs ports all the time and mine was put in high up under the mastectomy flap, after the tissue had been removed, so I did not have an install incision. It was just recently removed by my PS and I have a vertical removal incision, that she actually tented to counteract any stretching by normal upper body movement. She encouraged me to stay quiet in the couple of weeks post-surgery to allow the skin to knit well, then also encouraged me to use Biocornuem silicone gel to help it flatten. I had a subclavian port so the scar shows in any neckline other than a turtleneck.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2017

    Meg - I kept my port as recommended by my MO since I needed a year of Herceptin. I'm sure glad I did because I also developed Lymphadema, so no sticks in the arms. I had a power port that was used for all infusions, blood draws and to insert contrast for CT & MRI testing.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited January 2017

    Certainly there are 'horror stories' from some but not all are. Unfortunately, the 'horror stories' get a lot more 'play' than all the 'non-horror stories' of which there are many - if not more than the negative.

    My Power Port was put in 7+ yrs ago by my BS in the local hospital's OR. At the time, being IBC made recon not an option for at least a yr, so no PS on my team.

    The scar is about 2" long, horizontal and a 'hairline' if hunted for. It healed quite quickly with no issues of any kind. There were no external sutures - just surgical glue and 2 steri-strips. It is horizontal. To my thoughts, a vertical incision would have more tension/stress on it from just moving arms than a horizontal incision. As I said, the incision line is just a very thin line. It has to be 'looked for' to find it. Does not 'show' in any of my shirts (even tanktops) I usually wear - except 'spaghetti strap' cammies or swim suits but only a very thin line.

    It is my choice (with my Drs approval) to keep my port. It is never used for blood draws, etc. as I do have one arm that was not compromised by TX, so it's easy to just hit my very good vein without the complications of doing a flush anytime a port is accessed. (I do get it flushed every 2 mths.). Bottom line to me is that it's there and IF needed (not expecting to ever need it again), it's there and ready for any fight that might be needed. Instead of having to have surgery to put another one in in a less convient place as could not be back k on same side again nor can it be on other side - UMX side.

    Sorry for getting off topic a bit. Even IF 'you' happen to be one who scars easily, the potential damage that can be done to veins from chemo can not be reversed. Be careful to not 'jump' to the negative - not all have the negative experiences that some do.




  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited January 2017

    I would keep my port in as long as possible once it is in its far nicer than getting poked in the arm. I waited until I was done with Herceptin


    BTW since I had a double mastectomy and reconstruction I wore tank tops and no bras for the entire year I had the port so the bra strap was never an issue for me I would have loved to have my port farther out of my neckline and a vertical seam. If I had it to do again I would have walked out the day they put mine in and found somebody who would put my port in with some consideration for the look of it. I addressed it with the radiologist before surgery and he totally disregarded my wishes and put my port in a terrible place I hate.

    I had my port removed by my plastic surgeon during fat grafting for my reconstruction. He did a far cleaner stitch than the hospital does. He also fat grafted in to the space to ensure it would not be dented. I refused to have either my breast surgeon or the hospital remove my port. My primary decision to have revision and fat grafting was to ensure I could have my plastic surgeon handle my port removal. Even with that I am very upset about the location of the scar being someone who wears a lot of v neck, cowl necks and tanks

    I don't think that this post should discourage anyone from getting a port but I do think that it is worth exploring a better cosmetic location for the port. The medical community is tone deaf regarding this. If you can have your port placed during a lumpectomy or surgery rather than having the radiologist do it I would highly recommend it. Radiologists are not known for their cosmetic concerns and I have seen some crazy nasty scars from ports. Based on my experience in a smaller city with less young women needing ports I doubt this is even on the medical radar as a concern.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    I actually loved my port although I was nervous to get it in. It never gave me a problem and I really appreciated not having to have a nurse (novice or other) try to find my veins each time. And I don't care about the little scar, really. It still itches after 5 years from time to time though--anyone?

    I'm the weird lady who is proud of her scars, because they speak to me of my own resilience.

    When my surgeon took my port out in his office, I asked him to give it to me, and I used it in a recycled art project. :)

    Claire in AZ

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited January 2017

    Claire, glad to hear. My friend can barely look at hers and her eyes fill up with tears. I think time will help, she almost died after one of her infusions. It was very tramatic we were all praying for her at work. She is so young a single mother with 2 boys. I haven't seen her since my retirement but she has had health problems on and off.

    I might be a little like her, I don't want to remember the fear and uncertainty only time seems to help.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Meow, your friend's story is so sad. Most of our stories have a sad thread in them, it seems. I understand about not wanting to remember the fear. I try to remember the fear of that time as my resilience--I got through it even though it seemed insurmountable. I embrace my strength during that time. I hope in time you can too.

    Love and light

    Claire

  • Carmelita1951
    Carmelita1951 Member Posts: 12
    edited February 2018

    Hi.

    i was recommended to get the port because my veins are to thin, but i read that you can't bathe for 7 days??

    i need help advice, this was the oncology idea NOT mine, i'm wonder if is uncomfortable to have a device for 5 months

    any advice? i read and read , can you get a infection in the hole? i have a small frame , and i'm 5'1

    what is the chance of getting a infection? my mother In law die of the port got infected at the hospital 15 years ago

    i care less for the cosmetic issue, i just care and worry badly of infection and pain for 5 months wearing this funnel :( inside of me

    excuse my grammar :) .

    Respond thank you

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited February 2018

    Carmelita - I was able to shower 48 hours after my port was placed. It was a horizontal incision done by a general surgeon. She checked placement in pre-op with my bra on. I had steristrips over it, covered by a clear dressing until the shower.

    Once it is healed - it's completely under your skin and is accessed with a needle when needed, under sterile conditions. It was a bit more painful getting it placed than I thought it would be. Some of it may have been the dressing since it felt better when I could remove that. And for a while it would feel weird in certain positions for sleeping.

    Now I've had it for over a year and want to keep it for a while (year?) longer. My MO has already talked about scheduling the removal. But it's like a little insurance policy to me.

    As far as ports go - mine looks okay. The scar has faded to a thin white line. It does stick out quite a bit but is only obvious with a swimsuit. At first I was kind of self conscious last summer. Now it's a bit of a badge of courage.


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2018

    The port is sealed over once the incision heals. There is no "hole". It's only accessed during chemo using a very small needle, by the chemo nurses.

    I don't know where the can't bathe for seven days comes from. I just sealed mine off with the plastic transparent bandages (like big bandaids) my surgeon gave me, and showered as normal.

    I can't tell where you are, Carmalita. If you are located in another country, the post-surgical protocol for showering might be different, but at any rate, 7 days sounds excessive.



  • sweetp6217
    sweetp6217 Member Posts: 365
    edited September 2018

    I got my port taken out 25 days ago and it really didn't start itching until about 12 days ago. Also, what looks like a tendon goes from about an inch below the incision all the way up to my neck. They showed my my port, but wouldn't let me keep it. There was a sound when they removed the long tubing; reminded me of the sound when you clean windows, but lower pitched.

    As for the scar, I've begun putting Mederma on that and my other scars; that began 10 days ago. I hope to keep that up for the months that they say it may take. The port scar is jagged, oh well (and is visible in some situations).

  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited September 2018

    A fellow bc survivor recomended BioOil. they sell it at walmart and.other locations. i havent notice it does much but I am trying. Its very runny so its difficult to keep right where my port scar is.

  • WC3
    WC3 Member Posts: 1,540
    edited September 2018

    My port was put in by a radiologist. Scarring isn't the biggest deal for me because I prefer higher necklines but the incision was horizontal and the tightness of my skin and weight of my breast caused the incision to pull apart. I'm wondering why vertical incisions aren't used more often...is it like peeling a banana where most of us do it from the stem even though it's less efficient just because that is how our parents did it?

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited October 2018

    hello all I'm a 24yr Survivor Praise God my port scare is ugly also but I wear lace cami bras and bathing suits cover the scar so I'm ok with it. msphil idc stage2 0/3nodes 3mo chemo (adriamycin cytoxin 5fu) before and after Lmast got married was planning it at diagnosis then 7wks rads then 5yrs on Tamoxifen.

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