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  • LinnyG
    LinnyG Member Posts: 44
    edited September 2018

    Hi Northstar - Thanks for starting this thread. I am an 70 (71 in November). Diagnosed with mucinous carcinoma, L breast, on August 23. Having single mastectomy with tissue expander on 9/25. I have never not been healthy and active (swim a mile 4X/wk, gym 6X/wk, cycling) so this is throwing me for a loop. Some days I an talk about it without being teary, other days (like today!), all I have to do is think about it and I cry. I am blessed to have wonderful support - husband, kids, community - and a wonderful breast surgeon. And I know I have to get this cancer out, but I am very apprehensive about a total lifestyle change post-op. Like I used to tell my kids - suck it up, Buttercup. I'm tryiing and will get through it, as we all will. Thanks for listening!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Welcome LinnyG,

    I commend you on your attitude. Once in a while that is all we have to help us get through -- so having a good one pays. I also commend you for your active/healthy lifestyle. Many have found that cancer is equal opportunity or you can do everything right and still get cancer. The opposite is just as true -- people who go the other way in lifestyle ( I'm more in that category ) get it just as much. My neighbor who does/lives almost just like I do sails through and seems to get nothing. I tend to look at things -- if our life was perfect -- what would we learn. That said, most of us to a person would prefer that we NOT have to learn about cancer especially since our education comes the hard way -- by dealing with it first hand.

    If you read for awhile, posts here and other threads as well, you will find a lot of people leading a happy fairly healthy life after whatever treatments they and their medical teams agreed on together. It is very difficult to hear you have cancer since even now just hearing the word in relationship to yourself can be truly upsetting. You feel like something is being taken away from you against your will -- your health that in your case you worked hard to maintain. I've often heard that getting this dx. when you are older is slightly better. It does seem though that we generally have ( by the time we older ladies are dx'ed ) been exposed to many more toxins. I am, as I'm sure everyone here will be, wishing you well and hoping for you to have as un-eventful journey as possible. We are always here and the door is always open.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    This is the true joy in life, the being used up for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one; the being a force of nature instead of a feverish, selfish little clod of ailments and grievances, complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy. I am of the opinion that my life belongs to the community, and as long as I live, it is my privilege to do for it whatever I can. I want to be thoroughly used up when I die, for the harder I work the more I live. I rejoice in life for its own sake. Life is no "brief candle" to me. It is a sort of splendid torch which I have got hold of for a moment, and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations. -George Bernard Shaw

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Ah, we will have sun today and plenty of it. It will stay at cooler temps though so will be nearly perfect at 77 degrees. This will give us some chance to dry out a bit. Also, I can wander the yard and do some small things ( some twigs and sm. limbs coming down during the hard rains ) on my way back and forth to store things outside etc.

    I hope everyone has a super day.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Courage doesn't always roar.
    Sometimes courage is the quiet voice
    at the end of the day saying,
    "I will try again tomorrow."
    - Mary Anne Radmacher

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2018

    We will have some warmer temperatures this week and more humidity. The temperature today is supposed to get up to about 80 degrees. I plan to play women's golf at noon.

    My WW weigh in wasn't as bad as I feared. I was up .4 lb. Three weeks ago I was up .6, so I'm close to maintaining, which is my real goal this summer. The meeting yesterday was good, as usual. I enjoy this group of WW members and this leader. After the meeting, dh and I had dinner at the Bemidji Country Club restaurant in the club house, which is located on Lake Bemidji. We had a great view of the lake at our table.

    The health news on my mother isn't good and isn't surprising. Her kidney function is down as her CHF gets worse. Her doctor is bringing up dialysis.

    My niece Rebecca had surgery yesterday for nodules on her thyroid. One nodule had cancer cells. The surgeon told R's mother, my sister, that the cancer was slow growing and that if you had to pick a cancer, you would pick thyroid cancer. Looking on the bright side. This is the same niece with mental problems, three children, and a history of bad decisions.

    Nothing I can do to solve either situation. Goodness knows I made lots of attempts to "fix" Rebecca.

    Wishing everyone a good Tuesday.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Sounds like your niece will come out of her thyroid issues just fine. Sadly, not perhaps her other issues, but each person has their road and sometimes others are powerless to do much about that road. Carole, you tried and that is all anyone can do. Some things just have to bear the fruit they do -- no matter how difficult or unpleasant for others.

    Nice here today as yet, but we will warm somewhat. So, I can get back into my pedal pushers and enjoy.

    I made a dessert yesterday that I've thought about ( hanging my head a bit here ) for over 20 yrs. Well, not this exact recipe but recipes using crushed pretzels as the base. I may have seen something similar when we lived in California, but I don't recall any of them. In the 'hometown' type cookbooks I found once I got here there were lots. Wow !!! I should have done it long ago.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Pineapple Orange Pretzel Squares

    2 1/2 cups crushed pretzels

    2 sticks melted butter

    1 cup plus 3 TBSPS sugar, divided

    1 ( 8oz. ) pkg. cream cheese, softened

    1 ( 8oz ) container whipped topping, thawed

    1 (20oz ) crushed pineapple, undrained

    1 (4 serving size ) instant vanilla pudding

    1 ( 11oz ) can Mandarin oranges, drained

    Preheat oven to 375 degrees and coat a 9 X13 baking dish with cooking spray

    In med. bowl combine crushed pretzels with melted butter and the 3 TBSPS of sugar. When combined press into baking dish and bake for 11 minutes. Remove from over and allow to cool .

    In large bowl with electric mixer beat cr. cheese and the rest of the sugar ( 1 cup ) until smooth. Fold in ( I just used my mixer for that too ) whipped topping. Spread evenly over cooled pretzel crust.

    In med bowl combine pineapple with juice and pudding. Mix till thoroughly combined. Gently stir in oranges. Spread this over the cream cheese layer.

    Cover and chill for at least four hours or until nice and firm.

    Cut into squares and serve.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2018

    Everyone I know personally who had thyroid cancer came through it just fine---none had a recurrence. (For one, it's been almost 50 yrs.). A lot of baby boomers got it because their tonsils were removed by radiation, which was all the rage in the late '50s-early '60s. My pediatrician was old-school and sent me to an ENT with a surgi-center in his basement (yup, it was a "thing" even back in the 1950s). So my sis & I managed to dodge thyroid cancer. (And instead of an overnight hospital stay: we came home the same day, to vanilla ice cream....lots & lots of vanilla ice cream...maybe that's why I can take or leave vanilla...).

    I hear these days they're even doing drive-thru appendectomies!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2018

    DIL had thyroid cancer. They removed it and zapped her with radiation. This was 17-18 years ago and she's just fine. The doctor said the same thing, Thyroid cancer is the best kind to have. She wrote this wonderful, imaginative blog about being from the planet Thyca and living with her hubby stud muffin. I wish I had the whole thing. She ended it with becoming human and knowing it because she caught the 'flew' from him.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more "adulthood" to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind. -Alex Carras

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Nice today and I'm happy about that. We will slowly warm up but I don't think ( I hope ) that we won't get back to too hot. Mainly concerned now with Florence. We shouldn't really see much here but maybe higher gas prices for awhile. I hope people are safe. So many don't want to leave their homes. Hard to predict that some storms veer off at the last moment -- but my viewpoint I think, would tend to still be to rather be safe than sorry.

    Going to go tomorrow and take care of one of my favorites ( Little Muffin ) for a good while. Also have to take Bill in for his bath. He is back on Prednisone for his allergies. Not liking that but no good alternative.

    Hope you are all going to have a good day.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2018

    I wish the media wouldn't treat hurricanes like an exciting event. They're terrifying. I also wish all the people in Florence's path would evacuate. The inconvenience is better than the reality of riding out a hurricane. I have memories of hurricanes dating back to childhood. One year my whole family went to another house in the neighborhood that my father knew was a well-built structure, newer than ours. When we returned home the next morning, our roof had been blown off. There was no rain at that point so no damage was done to the interior of the house. Amazing.

    Another year we loaded up into our vehicle and set off for Champ Cooper school. About halfway there, we came to a tree over the highway. So we had to turn around.

    This morning I awoke to the sound of a patter of rain on the camper roof over my head. Just a drizzle. Still dh went off to the golf course. Now the drizzle has stopped but it's still overcast.

    I have nothing pressing on my schedule today. I may do some laundry and some cleaning. I'll also visit with Mary and Lyman next door. They will be heading to FL on the 21st.

    Have a good Wednesday.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2018

    Carole, I agree. I would definitely evacuate for Florence. I feel sorry for the people who can't afford to stay in motels, etc. A cot in a school gym would not be fun, but better than sitting in water in my house. I read that the average property in Charleston is 11 ft above sea level. Not nearly high enough. We used to live in Houston, so we watched the news from Harvey in horror.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2018

    My friend who moved with her three pets (two dogs & a cat) to Charleston this June--her DH is staying behind in the Chi. 'burbs until he can retire from his radio news reporter job--has evacuated inland (and upland) to her sister's place in Spartanburg. She reports it felt really weird to be driving the wrong way on the Interstate--all lanes on both sides of the road are headed inland. Good news is that the winds have slowed to the point that Florence is now a Cat. 2 (likely a 1 or a TS when it reaches Charleston), and the pines in their backyard will likely make it through OK--but still so wide and slow that even though wind damage is less of a concern now, storm surge and flooding from days of heavy rain are still quite worrisome. Doesn't help that DHS transferred $10M out of FEMA's disaster relief & recovery funds and into ICE to fund immigrant detention beds & deportation efforts. (And even more $ has been diverted from the Coast Guard to ICE). Now, none of these funds were legally mandated solely for FEMA disaster mgmt., but that doesn't mean somebody's (ahem...) priorities are majorly effed up.

    Wilmington, NC is predicted to take the most major landfall hit. What a lovely town--played the Cape Fear Folk Fest. there twice. And though it's not a major resort town in the same sense as Myrtle Beach, SC, enough of its mom-&-pop businesses are centered on the attraction of its oceanfront location. (Hope that Charter Oak in the park in the center of town survives).

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    If you have integrity, nothing else matters.
    If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters.
    - Alan K. Simpson


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Phew, glad the storm has been downgraded. Still much concern over the amt. of water. My BIL ( the one who spent so many yrs. as a foreign relations officer/diplomat ) did live very near the coast of Wilmington, but moved inland to Salisbury a few short yrs. ago. He and his wife and son did live in a house they had built in Shalotte ( no longer sure if I have spelled it correctly ) so were in many tight situations, but never as bad as this predicted one. I hope all do well, but there is going to be a lot of water and aftermath.

    So far sounds like we will have an okay day here. I will go over and take care of Muffy -- then back here for awhile and have to take Bill for his medicated bath and then back to care for Muff for a bit longer. Really should be a good day for me though mainly a day to spend with animals more than getting anything done. Dh has the day off which is nice but we will be hit and miss. I have food ready ( a no cooking day ) so it will all be smooth.

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited September 2018


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    Happy Birthday, Jackie. Hope you have a great day.

    Thank you for being the glue that holds us all together!

    Anne

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited September 2018

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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JACKIE

    Hope you have a great day, and thank you for being the glue that holds us all together!

    Ann

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2018

    Yum, I want to go to Jackie's birthday party and get a piece of that cake! Happy Birthday, Jackie!

    The weather here is "weird" for lack of a better description. Overcast, windy, humid, on the warm side. We went to the gym, then out to breakfast. Now I'm doing a load of laundry before heading to town for a haircut/color appointment.

    The temperatures are supposed to be high through the weekend with humidity and then next week will be much cooler. The leaves are turning and some are falling.

    Hoping for the best news possible on Florence.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Oh that cake sure does look yummy and thank you Anne. I have an eating plan -- but desserts have never managed to fall off of THE plan. The great thing about a plan is that it can be changed, re-arranged or otherwise fiddled with whenever you need to. A birthday is a really great time to need to. I have managed to not gain all that much this summer so guess I can say I've broken even. It is usually the winter that causes me to 'bulge' where I shouldn't.

    Our a/c came on early this evening so though it was nice enough outside the temps. have inched up enough to need to cool the house. It has been four or five days so probably time to help us dehumidify a bit.

    Deer are turning up in the yard now on a daily basis getting their fill of acorns. Had a deer yesterday that was sooo reluctant to leave. I wanted to let the dogs out but every time I glanced out there the deer remained nibbling away. I think he was there well over an hr.

    It is great to be 73 -- well and happy.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2018

    Happy Birthday, Jackie--and many more!

    Our ceiling is done--$700, including materials. Only problem is that the workers didn't wear shoe covers so they tracked drywall schmutz all over the house. (But for that price....). We'll mop & vac tomorrow.

    Have my gig tomorrow night--two 45-minute sets. Hoping to get some help loading the car and bringing stuff up to the room. Fortunately, it's small so we won't need to amplify. But I am under orders to ice between sets and after, so I'll bring a couple of instant ones.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2018

    Glad you're able to "make music" again, Sandy! Hope you are healthy afterwards.

    Another overcast day here. We're signed up for couples golf at 11:30 and dinner afterwards.

    Happy Friday.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Oh, the comfort, the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe
    with a person; having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure
    words, but to pour them all out, chaff and grain together,
    knowing that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep
    what is worth keeping, and then, with the breath of
    kindness, blow the rest away.
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    George Eliot

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Thanks again ladies. It was indeed a wonderful birthday. Especially the more so since back in 2007 and being diagnosed a couple of weeks after my birthday that year I questioned whether I would have any more. Just a reminder for anyone who might lurk here -- after many, many yrs. of mammograms I had become super complacent about thinking I would ALWAYS have good mammograms. I had no family history, at least that I knew about, and thought I did ( some cheating and wt. gain ) mostly healthful things. If you are not having regular mammograms please begin immediately. If you are, then good for you and keep up the good work. We older ladies are exposed to toxicities for a long time and no way of knowing usually when cells might ( hopefully they don't ) react. Be safe.

    Lovely out today. Sun is shinning and I imagine later on we will need the a/c again. Right now open windows and fans are doing all we need to stay comfortable. This a.m. just like most mornings now, deer were out in the yard chewing up acorns. Dh mowed late yesterday so likely popped open many of the nuts so I'm sure the deer found the munching very easy and rewarding.

    Hope you are all going to have a marvelous Friday. Still hoping for all those in the Florence styorm areas.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2018

    Especially we older ladies who had children later in life, only one child, didn't breastfeed long enough, or never had kids--and with early menarche and late menopause we were practically bathing in estrogen all our reproductive-age years.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2018

    Logistics for the gig worked out fine: my singing partner pulled into the parking lot exactly when I did--and he was coming from Madison, WI. The church sent down a volunteer to help carry stuff in & upstairs. Set up by 7, all tuned (2 guitars, 3 dulcimers) by 7:15. "lubed" my wrist--which had woken me during the night with sharp stabbing spasms; and my cries woke Bob--and we started a bit after 7:30 so the manager (who was late) could hear the whole show. Only the staff and a few transient onlookers during a break in the lecture series in the main hall came to see us. But we were getting paid no matter what, so this was sort of a cross between a post-op "shakedown cruise" and paid dress rehearsal.

    I found the difficult chords were less painful if I kept the guitar neck high (not qulte Johnny-Cash level). The thumb suspension on the second position G on the dulcimer was as painful as I remember from the pre-fall Lafayette, IN show--but I knew it was coming so I powered through it. I am either going to have to start using fingerpicks (I hate the feel of them and that one needs to be excruciatingly precise when playing with them) or bite the bullet and get an artificial tip placed on my R index fingernail--still too short and vulnerable to the steel strings. I played my hand-built Gramann, which is a lovely guitar for single-note work & fingerpicking...if amplified. It didn't ring the way the Martin does when strummed with a flatpick. Will have to start getting used to the Martin again, at least before the folk festival we're playing in early Oct. I iced a little (instant disposable icepack) between sets but didn't hav the chance to do so afterward, because the staff needed to close up & head home. So when I got home, I did 12 minutes inside the "Cold Donut," the same one my hand therapist uses.

    Just ordered the new Apple Watch Series 4, 40mm with cellular.All my accessory bands will still fit. I will get $115 off for trading in my Series 2, 38mm, with just wi-fi & GPS. The new watch has a better heart monitor and can take an app that turns it into a portable EKG. It also has an altimeter to measure flighrs of stairs. It has to be the same cell provider as my iPhone (AT&T), so I assume the Apple Store will either set it up with AT&T or send instructions.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2018

    Jackie, what a nice view out your windows, deer munching on acorns! On our way to the golf course yesterday, we came upon a deer in the middle of the two-lane highway. He or she was just standing there posing in the sunshine, like a live stature. DH had to slow down almost to a stop before the deer glanced at us and then bounded gracefully off to the side of the highway. I always wonder, "How can anyone shoot at a beautiful creature like that?"

    With that said, I have been known to eat venison.

    I'm waiting for Sandy's report on her music performance.

    Last night we had a good rain for a long period of time. It was badly needed since we've been in something of a drought.

    Not sure what I will accomplish today. Nothing pressing on my schedule, a good feeling.

    Happy Saturday.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Be Grateful for All of Life:
    Each of us has been infinitely blessed - beginning with the gift of life.
    Whatever may appear to be missing or broken on any particular day,
    our glass is not half full, it is 99.9% full.
    - Jonathan Lockwood Huie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2018

    Oh how wonderful to have my e-mail back. Had over 24 hrs. of some issue with the server. Very late someone finally told me that they tired to update their system ( apparently for e-mail only ) and in most cases none of their customers could send or receive. I think they were frantic and I'd certainly expect that. It is a lot of people who may be irate to have to deal with and pacify. Hard to pacify when you have no idea how long service will be interrupted. So, happy to turn on my computer this a.m. and find that I had quotes to look through to pick out something to share.

    Our deer were back this early morning. We take up a cat food dish ( we have a couple of indoor-outdoor cats who won't come in when it is nice ) and return it as soon as one of us is up. It was still quite dim outside, but I did see one of the cats peeking through the window -- sort of begging for the dish. I took it outside quietly and spied 3 distinct shapes over in the part of the yard where the acorns fall. It seems to me that they may be ( same ones ) coming all the time. They visit the yard several times through the day.

    We are mainly quiet here for the most part and even the dogs seem to be more respectful now with the consistency of the deer coming. They don't bark at them now and don't run at them either. Well, safer for them if they don't.

    Hope you are all going to have a great Sunday.

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