Seroma in armpit after sentinel lymph node biopsy - painful!

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raphaele
raphaele Member Posts: 2

Hello!

I had a lumpectomy and sentinel lymph node biopsy 10 days ago (they removed 3 nodes). Recovery was not that bad (pain was very manageable and the scars healed well), but as of 5 days ago, started getting a seroma in my armpit. I had it drained but it came back within two days. It's actually gotten worse, bigger and harder. I was told there was not much that could be done, other than draining it (which carried the danger of infection), but that it would eventually be absorbed in my body. Other than the seroma itself (which is directly where the incision was) I am finding pain in the back of my arm and deeper in my armpit, closer the the back of my arm and away from the incision. It feels like a bad bruise, essentially, and is swelling up a bit. I also get, occasionally, shooting pain from the armpit down the arm. Overall I feel my motion has decreased slightly, and the seroma hurts when my arm is resting against it.

My question for the group is, have people experienced similar symptoms? I am surprised to find that I feel worse now than I did couple days after the surgery... Also, I would love to get that drained again, but should I wait - if this comes back as fast as it did the first time, it may not be worse risking an infection only for a couple days of comfort, and perhaps the draining will be more effective when my body has figured it out. Any thoughts?

Thank you in advance!

Raphaele

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  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited July 2017

    Raphaele, sorry no one got back with you sooner. I guess the July 4 holiday long weekend kept many of us off the threads.

    I, too, had experienced a seroma at the sentinel node biopsy site, although only partially in the armpit. Only your doctors can tell you what would be best in your situation, but I can tell you of my experience. The seroma appeared within a week of my lumpectomy. Very uncomfortable and I had it drained once. It came back quickly but then started to leak at the incision which did release some of the pressure. My doctor told me it would just take time and also worried about an infection, but I did not get one, thankfully. Mine actually stopped leaking when I started brachytherapy radiation and healed up within a couple of weeks. I've seen stories on this site of seromas that healed quicker or took longer. Each person's situation is unique and you'll need to work with your doctor. Personally, I think, like you said, it just takes time for your body to figure it out!!! All the best and let us know how you're doing.

  • raphaele
    raphaele Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2017

    Hi Ceanna,

    Thank you for taking the time to write! And I'm happy to hear we can take a break from cancer over July 4th!! :-)

    I actually went to the doctor yesterday. The seroma was painful, it just didn't feel right. Turns out it was getting infected and did require heavy draining, which they were able to do (holding a little hospital bowl / bucket underneath, gee!!). They got 80ml out, I feel much better and am now on antibiotics.

    Unfortunately it looks like I'll need to go back for a full mastectomy because they found a second tiny lump, so it looks like I'm multi-focal. So I'll need to go through this again :-(

    Raphaele

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited July 2017

    raphaele, sorry you need further surgery. I hope the infected seroma clears up quickly. Take care of yourself and let us know what's happening. Ceanna

  • avibaby
    avibaby Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2018

    Well I could be considered one of the lucky ones to join this club, had a 90 cc seroma after sentinel node biopsy; fortunately it was not infected. A curve in the road on the path to recovery.



  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited August 2018

    I had an enormous hematoma after my LX, about 300ml. It was drained about half in the office, then the rest was cleaned up during my re-excision for margins. Darned if it didn't form a seroma after the re-ex, over 500ml! It was huge and would break open about every 3 days, pouring gunk down my side at the most inopportune moments. BS drained it several times, until it finally it got badly infected. Then i had to take two powerful antibiotics for 6 weeks and had a drain put in. Foo!

    My doctor believes that the hematoma caused a huge cavity within the breast that, after evacuation, filled with fluid causing the seroma. Interestingly, i had a seroma on the OTHER side after my BMX. That one was about 6-in across and 2-in deep. The PS opened that one and i ended up having to pack it for 16 WEEKS! Double Foo!

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited August 2018

    avibaby, not sure if you're currently in the middle of dealing with seroma or not, but hope healing is happening or you have healed. Not fun!

  • 19501952
    19501952 Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2018

    Hi, Mustlovepoodles,

    I’ve had a seroma since a couple weeks after radiation ended. It was drained tree times then started leaking from the needle site. On 7/19/18 I had surgery to open it up and debride area and needed to pack it for 2 weeks. It’s still open and gunky looking and my surgeon says she’s never seen this. She told me to stop packing it and just keep rebandaging it. It has not changed much and I’ve got no idea if it’s better or worse. Today is my last day of antibiotics. I go to my oncologist today. Maybe she will refer me to wound care. This is just so scary. I had one week after the end of radiation where I felt like I was back to normal and then this happened. It’s been so upsetting. Especially with the surgeon saying she’s never seen this in 20 years of practice. So I hope she’s treating it correctly. Any thoughts would be welcome.

    Kate

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited August 2018

    Kate, I should have seen a wound specialist, instead of fooling around with my PS. Lesson learned.

  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited August 2018

    I also had seromas under my arms after my bilateral mastectomies and right axillary dissection. They just watched them for about 4 months. They were not painful at that time unless I rested my arm on them, but it felt like I had a golf ball under my arm all the time. I healed from the surgery and began doing more and more, that aggravated the seromas they grew and the pain got worse, they were aspirated a few times maybe about 5 times before they eventually went away. I recently had reconstruction surgery and the plastic surgeon said those seromas were huge across my chest and into my underarms and encapsulated and caused lots of scar tissue and fibrosis, that was the pain I was experiencing after my radiation. He has since excised all that tissue and I feel alot better now. I hope it doesn't come back now after my reconstruction surgery heals up. Good luck with yours.

  • 19501952
    19501952 Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2018

    Hi Carmstr835,

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I’ve had very severe pain every day since the first aspiration. No one ever said it might be scar tissue. I keep thinking it’s gotta be something awful. I hope my oncologist can steer me towards wound care or at least say, yup, that’s healing. I’ll let you know what happens later today.

    Thanks again for responding!

    Kate

  • 19501952
    19501952 Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2018

    Hi All,

    I went to the oncologist but saw the nurse practitioner. She actually has had some experience packing wounds (her own) and said the wound looked a little gunky but the whitish area was the wound healing, or so we would like to think. She said keep an eye on it and if it stays the same or looks worse go back to the surgeon and get a referral to wound care. She said to change the bandage twice a day. The Tylenol doesn’t always take away the nagging pain so I guess I’ll live with that a little while longer.

    Best to all,

    Kate

  • avibaby
    avibaby Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2018

    Hi Ceanna,

    Thank you for responding to my seroma "complaint". Yes it's still hanging around. Surgeon removed one full tube today (I guess 50cc?). I think it is getting better. I am able to do my job OK so I am happier than last week. 

    You are a champion supporter - thanks!

    Avibaby



  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited August 2018

    Avibaby, sorry to hear you're still dealing with it, but glad they could drain and relieve some pressure. It will go away--just hang in there. Glad you can work comfortably.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited August 2018

    Hi raphaele,

    Yes, I have the same thing, had a lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy. Two seromas formed in my armpit. The first one was drained twice and is now flat-no fluid. The second one has been drained three times and although it's smaller, it's still there. My body will not get rid of these on it's own. So getting ready to ask if I can get it drained again since it will be about 3 months from the last time it was drained. This seroma is directly on top of a lymph node (ultrasound done to check that it was not an enlarged lymph node) so it's causing quite a bit of pain.

    Yes, infection is a worry. However, these armpit seromas I have are small compared to the ones I had in my upper leg after lymph nodes removed there. Unfortunately, those got horribly infected and I had cellulitis after having them drained a couple of times. The surgeon did an emergency surgery to drain out the infection, then had to pack it for a few weeks, but it healed.

    Sorry to hear you will need more surgery.

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