July 2018 surgery

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  • Robinda2970
    Robinda2970 Member Posts: 51
    edited July 2018
  • MarlaM
    MarlaM Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2018

    Dsbmisto, it sounds like you and I got similar post surgery news. My pathology showed that there is still a good amount of cancer cells left behind. It was almost like getting the cancer diagnosis all over again. I'm so sad and scared. My oncologist is ordering new CAT and bone scans, and I'll be starting chemo again soon. My hair is just starting to grow back just as thick as it was before, but now I'll be losing it again, not to mention the new worry about the other side effects of another round of chemo.

    I'm so sorry that we are going through this, but we'll get through it.

  • Debsmisto
    Debsmisto Member Posts: 171
    edited July 2018

    Marla, what surgery did you have? Ok I found your post about your surgery. Have you started an AI yet I'm on anastrozole? My Oncologist said no more chemo, that the anastrozole and radiation should do the trick. My cancer is 99% ER driven plus possibly Her2+ so I also get herceptin every 3 weeks Also my radiation oncologist said she wasn't concerned that the chemo didn't do much to my kind of cancer (hormone driven) It is all scary tho.

  • MarlaM
    MarlaM Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2018

    Dsbmisto, mine is hr+. I'm considering asking about just doing radiation and the hormone therapy (not sure which one) 10 years. He told me if I didn't do any additional treatment, chances of recurrence is 50%. I was so shocked, I didn't ask what the chances were if I just did rads and hormone therapy. I'm wondering if a second opinion at this point might be worth it.

  • Debsmisto
    Debsmisto Member Posts: 171
    edited July 2018

    Marla, my Medical Oncologist is the youngest in the group so he consulted with the senior Oncs and got 2 different recommendations on my treatment, both said I could try another type of chemo each recommending a different type. As I said my Radiology Oncologist whom is highly qualified said she was not surprised or concerned that my estrogen hormone driven cancer didn't respond much to chemo, so as you can see you can get all kinds of answers from each of these doctors, I guess we have to do our own research and make our own decisions, who knew!

  • Cindymb
    Cindymb Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2018

    Debsmisto,

    I'm happy for you that you wont need chemo again. I have my first Radiation Physician and Oncologist visit this week. Im praying I wont need chemo but of course will do what I need to.

    🤗 Cindy

  • Debsmisto
    Debsmisto Member Posts: 171
    edited July 2018

    Cindy, nothing's set in stone as we all have seen, I may see my MO next time (tomorrow) and he'll insist on chemo again, I guess that's why they call it "practicing medicine" 😊

  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited July 2018

    I posted this in June so posting again in July. Hoping to catch up with others in the healing phase...

    Hi all, I had BMX on 23rd July and am surprised by recovery so far. I thought I would be a lot more incapacitated than I am. I was distressed going into the surgery and felt very relieved once it was done.

    Drains came out days 3 & 4 and again I was relieved to have them gone. My pain levels are very manageable. I have some swelling on both sides. Mini boobs. I have not planned for reconstruction so no TE at this point.

    I don't take the oxycodone because of the sides effects. I do take Targin and some voltarine at night to help me sleep. I find I am trying to roll onto my sides and it hurts. With the pain relief I get there and rest easy (once my side). I am more numb than sore.

    My involved side is numb right across the breast under the arm and down to my elbow. Feels weird. The other side is no problem. I have simple dressings across each breast that cover elliptical incisions. Each incision has been joined with glue and steri strips. No stitches.

    I see my surgeon and oncologist on 07/08 for review and pathology results. Until then I will do my exercises and try not to over do it.

    Best wishes to you all.
  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Hi ladies, I just want to ask Helenlouse, cheers to your recovery! I m just wondeting, you had lumpectomy and rads,

    Did you actually had hormonal therapy? Since you had hormonal positive tumor in 2013?

    So sorry that you developed new one , hormones negative . It’s makes me worry ehy? Because you didn’t take tamoxifen? And it’s negative ! And you had chemo before surgery!! I hope your tumor shriinked!


  • Elizabeth9
    Elizabeth9 Member Posts: 49
    edited August 2018

    Hi. I am 2 days post op, bilateral mastectomy with lymph nodes removal. The morning after I felt great, no pain but that changed about 12 hours later. I am taking my pain meds every 4 hours to stay ahead of it. I was terrified of the nuclear Medicine injections but that was a piece of cake. Mine was day surgery. I am glad to be home but need to force myself to go into my bedroom away from the hustle of the house. I find the drains, the pain and the noise of my busy house overwhelming. When alone I feeL calmer. Overall I am feeling much better than anticipated and moving more than I thought I would. No appetite. Have to force myself to eat toast. Now I need to wait for pathology results. Asked my GP to send to me as she gets them in as I know they will come in bits before my actual follow up on Aug 28.

  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2018

    Hi Boston,

    In 2013 I was diagnosed with DCIS and standard treatment for that then in Australia was lumpectomy followed by radiation. I have had conflicting opinion saying DCIS is / isn't hormone receptive as 0 stage cancer. I was never offered follow up therapy (e.g. Tamoxifen).

    And yes to have another event (Drs say unrelated?) in the same breast after radiation is unexpected and scary. Yes they say this is not a reoccurrence but a new event. IDC triple negative.

    Standard therapy for triple negative BC here is Neo-adjuvant chemo then surgery then radiation. I had no response to FEC chemo but my main tumour shrunk by half on D (docetaxel) which I was very pleased about. It made me very sick. So YAY!

    My surgeon actually said she us seeing more older ladies with a second cancer. I am wondering if that is because we aren't doing enough with the first diagnosis. I note lots of ladies here on the boards do mastectomy with DCIS. That was considered overkill here in 2013. Now I wonder.
  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2018

    Elizabeth, good luck with the drains and try to stay as calm as possible. It is a big shock to the system. I am very numb on my affected side (left) across the breast into the arm pit and down to my elbow. My right side (prophylactic) is fine. Although that side my dressing is lifting. I have a nurse friend coming tomorrow yo replace. I am wary of infection. There is pain but not unmanageable. I take a Targin (oxcycondone) and Voltarin (Ibiphrofen) at night and find whilst moving in bed hurts once I am settled I can sleep. Try to eat to keep your strength up Elizabeth. I wish you a speedy recovery and good results.
  • WagMoreBarkLess
    WagMoreBarkLess Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2018

    Hello lovelies! I had a LMX on my right side on July 24, with latissimus dorsi flap reconstruction (very impressed so far with the results!). My question; What exercises am I supposed to be doing? I was told to do the crawl up the wall with my fingertips, but nothing else (I'll be referred to a breast cancer PT in another week or two). I still have my drain in but want to make sure I stay as limber as possible. What exercises do you all recommend?

    Also, thank you, all of you, for being out there to offer your support and wisdom. xoxo

    -Wendy

  • LittleRebel
    LittleRebel Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2018

    WagMoreBarkLess - I'm curious what others have been told too. I had my double mastectomy with prepectoral tissue expanders on 7/19. I got 2 of my 4 drains out yesterday, and I go back Friday to have the final 2 removed, then a week "off" from doc visits, then I go back to get assessed for healing and to hopefully get my first fill 8/13 (they didn't put anything in during surgery). I was told to not lift my arms higher than shoulder level until that "first fill" appointment and that "at that time they'll give me stretches/exercises". I'm going nuts at home though, I have two small kids (they'll be 6 and 2 in Sept) and while the older one understands what's going on, the 2 year old just wants "momma up" and it kills me that I can't lift her up. I know the lifting restrictions are in place to not overdo anything, but I'm curious what the harm would be given that I had everything done pre-pectorally, so my muscles weren't cut. I'm going to ask at my appointment Friday, but I'm hoping maybe I'll be given the green light to start lifting things sooner rather than later.

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Helenloise, Thsnks for social media I can communicate with someone on the other side of the world ....

    I heard that lumpectomies followed by rads- it’s norm but they tend to spread - go figure... but it’s looks like completely opposite - new tumor. I wonder if you would get chemo-first time- maybe the outcome would be better? If you would get second time hormone positive- I would blame it for not taking g tamoxifen, but 3 negative- is different thing!

    I wish you speedy recovery !!!

    Other ladies- get heal faster and I will take picture of my exercise but they better 3-4 weeks after surgery!

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Wagmorebarkless, here is the pics of exercise, in 2 weeks of post op please start with pendulum and make snow angels on the floorimage

  • WagMoreBarkLess
    WagMoreBarkLess Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2018

    Awesome! Thanks, Bostonian. I'm also a native Bay Stater, now living in D.C. Go Pats!

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    also wall exercise image

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Week4 - with cane, stick or broom image

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    stretching 4 Th week image

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    some info to prevent lymhedemaimage

  • WagMoreBarkLess
    WagMoreBarkLess Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2018

    Hi everyone,

    I've enjoyed reading about your experiences with your July surgery ("enjoy" being a relative term...). My surgery was July 24. I was supposed to have LMX on my right side with DIEP flap reconstruction, but the day before, my surgeon changed it to latissimus flap due to high blood platelets (which I still need to investigate). Luckily, so far so good. My pain is controlled via Extra Strength Tylenol. My margins and nodes were clear (praise the Lord!), and I was staged as a 1A due to size (4.6 cm). I'm waiting on Oncotype results to determine next steps regarding treatment.

    I've had an outpouring of support from neighbors, friends, coworkers, even people I haven't seen in 20 years! My mom is here helping and my employer is paying me while I'm recuperating. I should be over the moon. But...I feel numb inside. I feel alone and lost. Not depressed, because thank god I take Lexapro (which is a miracle drug for me!). But i just feel...sad. Like i just want to hide upstairs in my room and get lost in books, movies, etc.

    I suppose this is normal, but I'd love to hear your experiences. What is your emotional state right now and how do you care for your sweet selves?

  • borogirl
    borogirl Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2018

    These are all the things I've been doing after my arthroscopic shoulder surgery too. Hopefully since I've been doing these and will continue to do these up until this surgery I'll be in good shape ahead of time and recover better too. Thanks for sharing, and I will be eager to hear from my PS when the time comes about when I can start movement and exercise after MX (since all doctors have different rules and procedures).

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Wagmorebsrkless, Bean town rocks!!! Go, Pats!!

  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2018

    Thanks Bostoniangalt

    For your comments and pics of exercises.


  • Vermonster
    Vermonster Member Posts: 44
    edited August 2018

    Hi Wagmorebarkless - I can totally relate to hiding with books - they are an escape from the reality of not having control of so much (diagnosis, snail's pace of waiting on test results, pace of surgical recovery, etc) and for all the blessings that the friends and caregivers are, they can also be exhausting - and it's not steadily easy to adjust to a different body and all that comes with the treatments! I'm glad your margins & nodes were clear (mine, too!!), I'm trying to be patient with all of the many limitations (my last two drains came out yesterday - what an improvement!!) I still have, 18 days post-surgery (my belly is still "off" after the laparascopic ooph), while celebrating the things I can do today that I couldn't yesterday (I got a stretchy tank top on all by myself). I wish you (& all of us) well as we move forward!!

  • Bostoniangal25
    Bostoniangal25 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2018

    Helen Loise you welcome

  • Fairchild
    Fairchild Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2018

    Robinda2970, I went home from bilateral mastectomies with drains in but no bra and no bandages. A minimalist approach, I guess....

  • Robinda2970
    Robinda2970 Member Posts: 51
    edited August 2018

    Yep. I guess every dr is different. Nice not having to wear a bra now..

  • Debsmisto
    Debsmisto Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2018

    I find with my prepectoral tissue expanders that wearing a bra with support relieves some of the pain /discomfort.

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