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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2018

    So, a bit of a rant and Mags agreed. She asked about drug to control  clots. I wanted to jump through the phone and take his jugular out.  He described that they would do not DO drug control. Plus, he described no control of clots. and that that PE' were a very easy way to die. It was very FAST and effectively painless. __________i HEARD HIM SAY THIS STUFF.

    sHOCKING

    Mags and I talked at length. Her scenario might----could have been avoided for this admission if one of her doctors would have considered DVT prevention. OOdles of docs.

    I feel horrible , b/c we did lots of teaching stuff. Foot pumps, and walking.......Sad very sad, I should have recognized the lack of DVT protection. . Sad very sad. Will take years to get over. Mags has forgiven me. 



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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited July 2018

    Mags


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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited July 2018

    Now now My Dear Ms. Sas, DON'T. Guilt is not from the Father. Don't be so hard on yourself.

    What a jerk!!! That doctor! Ugh

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited July 2018

    Queenie, hope the infection is gone.

    Feline, you folks have heat wave? At 20 degree Celsius? Hah! I would love to have that temperature here. It has been an infernal where I am.

    Ms. Sas, DH can’t stay away too long. Just a ump in the road.

    Egads,

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    In my case, a bowl of noodle soup.

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2018

    Loverly, You as always are a blessing in thought. Thank you

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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2018

    Sas - I called this evening, but it was late on your end. Sorry I wasn't able to get back to you sooner. Tomorrow I see my MO and will get the results from my PET scan. Apartment is toooo quiet without Kirbster here, but I know he is having fun at summer camp (the trainers house). I hope to get him home by Saturday.

    It is sad to hear about Mags entering hospice, but I do understand the reasons she has chosen this path. Please send her HUGS from me as well.

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2018

    JUnie, it's 4:00 am late evening catch up. Happy that Kirby is having so much fun. Started Shats and Dini on Chicken. They are in heaven. Read a couple of weeks ago about real meat and the health benefit to dogs. Doing it since. Dogs are so happy. Dini is so patient. Shat's -----dances and is a funny pita when I start cutting the meat. She knows it's for her. Aldi's meats are soooo cheap. I think this is okay.

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2018

    A cousin will soon be joining us

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited July 2018

    Sas, I am shocked that a doctor would say that!

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2018

    Mommie, and Loverly, I was so shocked. What's even worse per Mags, he's a cancer patient.. But he is high functioning cancer patient. Just as I described Mags as being high functioning. 

    Look I am a cancer person . I've gotten to hate the word survivor, but yes I got through Bc, brain tumor and Thyroid cancer. Well, my husband didn't. Why? Lot's of thoughts. Who what when where why?

    I heard this doc talk to Mags, and I never in 40 years, heard anything so egregious, Except for two patients.

    Both were when I was a student. Each doc walked in and  stood there and said to the patients you have cancer. Each patient said what does that mean? Both docs said it means that you are going to die. Both docs then walked out. It was horrible. Horrible. I still have thier faces in my memory  and the talk we had after the doc left. It was totally HORRIBLE.  It was the most cruel thing I'd ever seen in my life till that point and it happened within a few days. That was 1971........Horrible. Horrible. A pox on both docs, even though they both are long dead.

    I was going to add a POX on Mags doc, but that would be unkind.

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited July 2018

    Her doctor should be horsewhipped! Some doctors have no beside manner! Its bad enough that Mags is deal with cancer and this complication, but to have a buttheaded doctor say that is outrageous! At least he should try some kind of treatment, mine did when I developed blood clots in both the heart and lungs. My MO put me on a blood thinner to deal with the problem and so far everything is good.

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  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited July 2018

    Adding my RAR to the outrage about Mags' doctor: how does he know it's fast and painless? Has someone come back from the grave to tell him so?

    Loverly: yes, my infection's has gone, but the discoloration around my ankle's expanded a bit. (This is the one about which a nurse teased me, saying he'd thought it was a work-release monitoring anklet.)

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited July 2018

    Maybe after Mags' doctor dies of PE, he can come back and describe how easy it was. He should be reported.

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  • bella2013
    bella2013 Member Posts: 489
    edited July 2018

    My mother was a full assist stroke patient living in my home for 3.5 years of the 6 years she suffered her stroke. Her last two years she was in-Home Hospice care. I have direct knowledge of what medications were provided to her while she was under their care. Coumadin was the primary drug given to prevent another stroke. It was not a life saving drug...she didn’t die from her first stroke and she was on blood thinners...(she was just not at theraputic levels when she was released from the hospital following pace maker replacement surgery).

    In 2010 her doctor referred her to in-Home hospice care so that she could have in-Home doctor and nurse care and not be transported to doctor’s offices in her paralyzed condition. It was a huge relief for me, for her, and her caregivers to have her medical care and pharmaceutical care coming from one source. MediCare paid for all of it.

    My father had PE’s. They were extremely painful. He felt like he was having a heart attack.

    It’s very upsetting to hear what this doctor had to say. Ugh...

    Maybe seeking Palliative care might meet her needs at the present time..

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited July 2018

    Told my hubby about Mags and what the doctor said and he was floored. He can't believe that a doctor would have the temerity to say that to someone or even try to give her meds to deal with the problem.

    Maybe we need to get a voodoo doll and stick multiple pins in it to show how outraged we are at this situation! And if we can’t get a voodoo doll, here is a better option:

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited July 2018

    Love what Wren said.


    ((((((((((((Mags)))))))))))))

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited July 2018

    Geeze...the dammit doll even bears a striking resemblance to my ex husband...wonder if he’s getting royalties?

    ;)

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited July 2018

    lol Egads

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited July 2018

    Loveroflife ;

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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2018

    I just got home from my appt. with my MO. Yay!!!!! My PET scan is clear!!!! Only my T11 vertebrae is active. So tomorrow morning I will call the neurosurgeon to schedule an appt. to discuss the surgery he has proposed and the blood clots in my lower left leg. My MO said that she has had patients that have had the same type of surgery I am looking at and they did well. Since the neuro is usually booked out about 3 weeks and I will have to stop the Ibrance for 3 weeks prior to surgery, the soonest I could expect to have surgery would be 6-7 weeks from now, but that is if he doesn't have plans for vacation in August like a lot of docs tend to do.

    This whole surgery thing scares me though. It will be a very big one and require a lot of time to recuperate.

    Now to get my Kirbster home. A lady I am acquainted with has offered to take me to go get him on Saturday morning, so 2 more days without my little fur-butt. His trainer texted to let me know he is having a blast though. He doesn't get to have the Zoomies when he is with me.

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited July 2018

    Junie you have MADE my day!! So happy to read this...and I bet the Kirbster will be just as happy to get back home to momma! Big hugs to you darlin...such good news!!!

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited July 2018

    Wonderful news!!!

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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited July 2018

    Hi friends- not here too often these days but saw someone post on the prayer thread that Mags is transitioning in to Hospice. Just wanted to come here and check in and also let you know.

    Peace & love to everyone here

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited July 2018

    Yay! I am also delighted to hear the good news. When did you change your avatar? Love it!!

    Queenie, ankle monitor bracelet? Hmmm

    Mommy, I would hate to make you mad. Hehe!

    Egads, I have no problems with resisting junk food (most of the times) I did have a seared ahi salad when I was in the wine countries several weeks ago. Was so proud of myself. Felt good afterwards. Even remember to take a photo to show you.

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    And then I slipped on my last trip to the coast. Had to try the famous crab sandwich at Nicks restaurant in Pacifica. I should have tossed the bread, but then realized there are so many hungry people in the world..... so I ate the whole darn thing. My redemption that day? (If there is such a thing) I walked seven miles.

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    Guilty pleasure.


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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited July 2018

    Oh Hi Jazzy!!! I have missed you.

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited July 2018

    Junie enjoy a very happy reunion with Kirby

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited July 2018

    Junie- that is awesome news! So happy you'll have Kirby back soon!

    Lover- usually a mild mannered person but look out when I get mad! Lol


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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2018

    Thank you all for your concern and kindness!

    Helloooo! Jazzy Girl. Very long time since you've visited our group. I hope you are doing well!

    Loverly - Your lunches look Delish! 7 miles, Yikes! How'd your feet feel after walking that far?

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited July 2018

    Loveroflife - thanks for posting the pic...that salad looks SO good,.. thanks for taking and posting...7 mile walk.....you killed the sandwich carbs for sure! Great, it’s 8 am and now I’m craving ahi and a side of crab lol! :)))

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  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited July 2018

    Lover: now you've made me hungry. How was the crab in the sandwich?

    And yes, the nurse was teasing about the ankle monitor...

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