radiation therapy causing painful fibrosis of the breast

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sora
sora Member Posts: 8

I have completed 25 treatments to both breasts and axillary lymph nodes and subclavicular lymph nodes.

I also had 8 ACT treatments and surgical node dissection. All of this was followed by 5 cycles of Xeloda

My cancer is a recurrence after 14years and I am BrCa1 positive.

Now my most painful concern is the fibrosis of my left breast..It is enlarged, red, hot, painful and hard. I have been prescribed Vit E and Pentoxyfillene..which may or may not work.

Does anyone else have this problem or any suggestions?

Thank you. Marilyn

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2018

    Marilyn, welcome to Breastcancer.org. While we hate that you have to be here for this reason, we're really glad you found us!

    We've moved your thread to the Radiation forum and bumped your topic with this post so you have a better shot at finding others experiencing the same o similar symptoms. In the meantime, you may want to read through the pages of the Radiation Therapy section from our main site for more information on the kinds of side effects you may experience over the course of your radiation treatment.

    Hope this helps!

    The Mods


  • xxyzed
    xxyzed Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2018

    You don’t say how long it has been since you finished treatment. The left side of my chest was all those things. Immediately after radiation it was just a massive open sore and very hard. I did the salt water soaks and kept it covered with dressing and took pain killers until the skin healed. After that I continued with the sorbelene cream each night and wore the swell pad in my camisole each day and the physio treated it every few weeks. It didn’t take long before I didn’t need to take painkillers anymore, maybe a few weeks. The redness went not long after the pain. The swelling took longer to go down, more like months and the firmness eventually lessened. It is still harder than the other side but not rock hard like it started off. All up I would say about 12 months of physio until I thought it was about as good as it would get. I still wear the swell pad but no longer do the daily massage unless it feels swollen and is bothering me.
  • sora
    sora Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2018

    Dear XXYED, thank you so much for your helpful and supportive response. I finished radiation in November. Initially I suffered with scaling itching redness open lesions, they healed but now my breast is as I described.

    I am taking Pentoxyfillene, Vit E and a NSAID gel to my breast.

    Your post made me feel hopeful for the first time.

    How are you doing? I had the 8 ACT's and then oral Xeloda..25 RT and axillary node dissection bilaterally, and my chest wall. 14years ago I had a bilateral mastectomy even though I only had cancer in one breast but I am BrCa1 positive. I had no additional treatment until now.

    Thank you again. mjr

  • xxyzed
    xxyzed Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2018
    I’m doing fine. My breast cancers were quite small but much more aggressive in my axillary area wrapping around the nerve going down my arm. The surgery caused lymphedema and restricted movement to my arm which improved and then worsened with chemo and then radiation. I resigned myself to physio forever just to keep mobility and swelling to an acceptable level. I had herceptin for 9 more months after radiation. A few months after finishing herceptin everything seemed to fix itself. My lymphedema has gone, my arm mobility is fine. I still get tingling down my arm when hyperflexing my wrist so it’s not 100% but it certainly doesn’t bother me anymore. My chest looks fine. It is a little darker and firmer than the other side but does have softness to it. I didn’t do reconstruction as I didn’t want more complications and am happy flat. My whole body was a mess from treatment but it has recovered although I have had heaps of physio and daily self care which I don’t need to do any more as it all seems fine. Now I’m working on trying to recover my fitness which is a hard slog. I’m still on neratinib until the end of the year and expect I will struggle with my fitness until it has cleared from my body. I’m at high risk of recurrence so have had extensive, aggressive treatment. My body seems to have bounced back. I just hope it’s been enough to keep the cancer away. I know what it’s like when your body is a swollen, burnt, toughened mess and it feels like there is no way you will ever be normal again. Even the specialists didn’t offer much support when it didn’t look any better after a few months. Try and keep a positive attitude, keep up the self care, spend a fortune on physio and give your body a chance to heal itself. I hope it improves for you.
  • sora
    sora Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2018

    Dear XXYZED, sounds like you have had quite an ordeal but I am so happy that you are now doing well. I find you an inspiration. Too bad you are in Australia and I am in US. I totally agree with you about the specialists...they seem to shrug their shoulders and say they don't really know what to do. My oncologist told me she threw the kitchen sink at me by giving me very aggressive chemo, radiation and of course surgery. I hope that within the year I might have some relief from this fibrosis and feel more like myself. I am trying to gain my stamina and endurance also.

    Thank you so much for your support.

    MJR

  • xxyzed
    xxyzed Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2018

    All the best Sora

  • MameMe
    MameMe Member Posts: 425
    edited May 2018

    Just a note of sympathy as to the mess that can happen after surgery and radiation. It took a looong time for the breast and axillary tissues to heal after treatment on different sides. I since have developed axillary lymph drainage problems on the left, which is 6 years since lumpectomy and radiation. I have had rounds of different chemos which could have added to the problem, who knows. Anyway, I totally get thebind you are in, and support doing what xxyzed shared. The actual experience of side effects is way different from the theories. Chin up, we are pulling for you

  • sora
    sora Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2018

    Dear MameMe, first thank you for reaching out and for offering encouragement given all you have and are going through. The different types of mets are really a mystery and scary and your attitude is wonderful. The other part of this that is so frustrating is that the symptoms can show up so much later after the treatment..and for those of us with recurrences the treatments last longer and longer so you never feel quite home free which was how I felt after my first dx in 2004. I feel for you and am pulling for you as well.. My very best wishes to you. Marilyn


  • sora
    sora Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2018

    It is Sora again. I forgot to mention that I have breast implants which my guess is what is aggravating fibrosis in my left breast. Has anyone else had trouble with implants and then radiation therapy even thought the time interval was 14 years. Thank you.

  • Jcdd
    Jcdd Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2018

    i have very bad fibrosis from radiation as well. finished an aggressive course of proton therapy last March 2017. I am stage 3C, her2+++. I had expanders switched to implants in February and i was really hoping that i would bring releif, but nope. Underneath my arm and into my armpit, my tissue has hardened into a rock and it totally adhered to the ribs. It does not move. I now have patches on my upper foob and in between foobs and underneath that have also hardened and adhered to the bone underneath. Literally will not move. The radiated foob also has scar tissue from surgery and capsular contrature. It is very painful. I have been to everybody about this. The thing is, radiation fibrosis is different than just normal post surgical scar tissue. I am doing PT, stretching and a deep tissue like massage where the therapist is working to try to free the adhesions off the bone. I spoke with the radiologist and right now, there is not mich else to do. Ive heard about hyperbaric oxygen but was told to stay away because its contraindictated for cancer. I was told the best bet is to have a flap surgery where they can remove some of theradiated tissue and replace with real living tissue.

    I feel like you - desperate for something to help. The deep tissue massage has been the only thing so far that is really doing anything

  • sora
    sora Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2018

    Thank you Jcdd..I appreciate your sharing the horrors you are experiencing. My question to you and to others..how do you go about daily life with all of this discomfort and pain and disfigurement? That is a huge part of my problem, feeling like my basic functioning is off because of all of this.

    sora

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