IDC fatigue before surgery or treatment?
Hi all,
I was diagnosed with IDC almost one month ago. I'm 45 years old. My tumor is 9 mm, stage I, maybe stage II (surgeon said he'd know for sure after surgery) grade 3, ER+/PR-/HER2-. I also have a second tumor right next to the original one but he said it is very small. I have decided to go with a bilateral mastectomy. My surgery date is June 30.
I have been feeling like something was not right for several months prior to my diagnosis. I have been extremely tired, sleeping during the day, I feel like my energy level is nonexistent and I have just generally been feeling unwell. I also have fibromyalgia and several bulging discs in my back and neck and a host of other health issues. But even though I have all of those issues, I still felt like something had changed. And then I got my diagnosis.
Have any of you experienced such intense fatigue before your surgery or treatment even started? It scares me because if I feel this way now, how much worse is it going to be later? I guess I'm just wanting to know if this is normal with this disease? Most everything I have read about it talks about the fatigue after surgery and during treatment. But I haven't found anything on fatguehappening before any treatment begins.
Thanks for your input! I'm super scared about the road ahead.
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Hi, Dorian - Sorry you are dealing with this. None of us will EVER forget what this feels like in the early days.
I did feel like my body was off somehow, in the 2-3 months prior to diagnosis. I chalked it up to the effects of a LOT of international travel - airplane air, jet lag, never able to catch up with myself or my work. I'd also had a bout of bronchitis (first in a long time) over the winter that took forever to get rid of. Looking back, I do think at least some of it was my body attempting to deal with the cancer.
I did neoadjuvant Femara and, frankly, as soon as I started on it and found a very supportive surgeon, I started to feel better. I got a lot done in the 7 months prior to surgery and felt very strong going into surgery, and afterwords, too. That lasted until radiation.
I think the whole fatigue/energy situation is perhaps a wave that we ride, Dorian, with its ups and downs. Sometimes there are clear reasons for exhaustion, other times not. Sometimes finishing one phase of treatment gives us a boost of energy unexpectedly. If fatigue persists, it's wise to dig a little deeper to check for anemia, nutritional deficiencies, etc. But don't stress about it - you've got plenty to process as it is. You're probably really good at listening to your body; that should serve you well as you progress through treatments and recoveries. Take care.
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yesHopeful82014 u are not alone dx in may 2016 papillary dual carcinoma in Stiu and my worst symtoms was fatigue everyday just tired always a certain time of day I'm normal energetic u know your body and when a change happens u know going into my second surgery June 23 2016 hope it's my last having diabetes and keep having surgeries is not good. My prayers are with u and your journey stay strong hopefully this fatigue will pass.djm71 my prayers are with u stay strong.
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Pam, best wishes for a excellent results and a strong, easier-than-expected recovery (one can hope!) from your upcoming surgery. Take care.
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djm71 -- My fatigue was so bad before diagnosis (& we thought it was caused by an autoimmune) that I couldn't even work full-time. I will tell you that it was almost immediately after my surgery that I felt significantly better and haven't had a really bad fatigue day since. I'm not saying that doing chemo, etc. was easy, but I could tell it was a different type of tired. So, now we know that was truly a symptom of the cancer not the autoimmune. I hope that your surgery will provide you with a similar experience.
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Thank u Hopeful82014 I will be asking my bs how long will this last so far no chemo recommended but I hope my immune system has nothing to do with it. I feel God is watching over us all. That's all I need.
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Sending supportive hugs and warm thoughts & prayers to each of you. Hopefully, in a year or so we can all look back and see how far we've come.
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I felt perfectly fine prior to diagnosis, the diagnosis was a bolt from the blue. I'm now over a year out of treatment, and I'm feeling much better than I expected. I started yoga shortly after finishing treatment, and it has done wonders for me. The period right after diagnosis, befor you get your treatment plan in place is the worst. You'll feel much more in control when you know exactly what you're dealing with. Wishing you a speedy recovery from surgery, clean margins and lymph nodes
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Before my annual mammo, I felt pretty good--was maintaining a weight loss, had two perfectly working knees, had gone nearly a year w/o a cold. I was thrown a bit by the message I got in my patient portal inbox the next day, but once I got a date for the followup imaging I was calmed a bit more, expecting it’d be nothing (it was about the time of stories about possible overtreatment of DCIS, and I figured that since I’d never had an abnormal mammo before, DCIS would be the worst it could be). But the two weeks between my ultrasound and biopsy (had to travel for work, and they said the extra time wouldn’t make a difference) were the most nerve-wracking of my life. Every other thought was “What if I have cancer? I might have cancer. It’s probably cancer.” Funny thing was, I was down in New Orleans--the weather was perfect, I was in the best shape of my life, walking at least a mile a day, limited only by my schedule and a few foot blisters. Now, it’s possible (though not easy) to stay low-carb down there, what with seafood and fresh produce, but I began cheating majorly on my diet--first eating the biscuits and bread that came with every meal, then having dessert, then going whole-hog with spuds, rice and other starches. And of course beignets my last day, with a hand pie to go for the plane ride to Philly. When my singing partner picked me up at the Philly airport en route to our senior center gig (so we thought) near Scranton, I took full advantage of the Krispy Kreme--with the “Hot Now” sign lit--across from our hotel (we haven’t had them in Chicago in over 5 yrs) and had a free hot one and two chocolate-iced creme-filled for bedtime & breakfast. When we got to the senior center, we found they’d booked someone else--we learned the woman who’d immediately rebooked us there after our gig the year before quit a month later, taking the schedule book with her.
Yup--I could have left New Orleans two days earlier and delayed my biopsy by only a week--saving myself airfare, hotel rooms, restaurant meals and an entire week of horrid worry. ! The “what-ifs” began to multiply as we drove back to Chicago, where my singing partner dropped me at home before proceeding to his next gig near Peoria and I had to emcee two writers’ rounds at a local annual folk festival Labor Day weekend--as I’d done for the past 14 years. But I was so tired that the first day I went straight back to the hotel to nap and the second day I headed home. When I got the diagnosis of grade 2 IDC--one type more serious and two grades worse than what I’d feared, I felt like I’d been socked in the gut. But the next day when my gyne called to tell me it was Luminal A, and set up the appt. with my surgeon, I calmed down considerably. Never did get that fatigue again, not even after surgery or during rads--but I do get jet-lagged very easily and have to nap at least a couple of hours after arriving (they worst thing you can do for overcoming jet lag, but it is what it is).
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I appreciate all of your replies SO much!! You have all made me feel so much better. Like I'm not alone and my feelings aren't crazy! Y'all are right. I think I'll be ok once I get going with treatment. The waiting is what's getting to me so bad. Thank you so much for all the love and support
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hi djm71 I thought it was just me to. Before I got diagnosis I started to feel really tired to I know my body I knew something was wrong I'm going to see my bs tomorrow. Going to ask her about it will.let u know what she say. Sorry u are going through this but glad to know I'm not alone hopefully after treatment we will get better u are my prayers.
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djm71, I hope that your surgery went well. Yes, I'd been exhausted for weeks prior to my 5/20 diagnosis. The breast surgeon said early stage cancer doesn't typically cause fatigue so I attributed it to my Fibromyalgia, diabetes and the fact that I was trying to resume my life after six sedentary months of excruciating pain we thought was a hip implant issue, but ended up being a herniated disc and sacroiliac joint problem. I also had intense carb cravings.
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I am 44 and just diagnosed with iDc. I too have 3 herniated discs. I've been napping for about 6 months. In addition, my period got CRAZY! I'm scared too about the road ahead. We will PERSERVERE!
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I too am in waiting. Ugh. Just need my "road map" of the next 12 months..
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Wow such great information. Everyone at home thinks I'm making my fatigue up. I knew I wasn't going crazy. I workout 5 days a week and for the last 3 weeks I have just felt exhausted whole working out, I get really winded. Today it hit me, I wonder if it goes hand in hand. That's how I found this site.
I was diagnosed with bc last week ILC and IDC. Not sure what stage, Dr said she wouldn't know until after surgery.
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I'm having the same thing! I have been extra exhausted since finding out I had cancer a week ago so I do wonder if some of it is emotional exhaustion. I'm also 20 weeks pregnant so I'm having a hard time figuring out what is pregnancy-related and what, if anything, is cancer-related
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djm71-this post, and the accompanying posts from same-suffering souls, is one of the most helpful things i have ever read. the fatigue prior to the dx was crushing. every day was a nightmare sickening struggle to get to and from work. at first i chalked it up to menopause, and then i was 'diagnosed' with fibromyalgia, which i can't help but feel is a catchall term medical professionals use when they don't know what the hell is wrong with you. i also had a great time chastising myself for being lazy (former community activist, full-time job + school, hardcore gardener & party-thrower) and spiraling down into the dank well of deep depression. i've known something was wrong but never in a million years would i have suspected bc. i have to thank one, ONE sharp Dr., among the dozen or so i saw, that literally forced me to take the mammogram.
Thank you for helping me to know i was not imagining things
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I did not put it together until about 8 weeks after I was diagnosed in June 2016. I was sick most of March and April with flu, and colds that just kept dragging on. I didn't need think about it at the time but now realize my body was spending energy on trying to battle my tumor and thus the delayed healing time for my lingering colds and flu. Getting the cancer out was key for me. Haven'tbeen sick a day since-knock on wood.
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Yes. I was experiencing significant fatigue since end of October/beginning of November. I was diagnosed with IDC, Stage IIA Grade 3 on 1/4.
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I had been complaining to my PCP for more than a year that my chest hurt, not my breast, but an uneasy feeling in my chest that came and went. Several tests and no conclusive cause. Fibromyalgia was discussed, then multiple Vitamin D deficiencies. Felt horrible fatigue for quite a while before BC was diagnosed. My surgeon said based on the size of my tumor, it had been there for years! Interesting!
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Thank you everyone for the great information. I was diagnosed with IDC a couple of weeks ago and am waiting to see the surgeon. I have been beyond exhausted and didn't know why. I'm still working full time and have a family to look after so I'm suspecting that working and stress are probably playing a huge role in this. Also, I haven't been able to get my flu shot as I've been catching one thing after another since October. It helps to know that others have experienced that same thing and that it's not my imagination. My doctor put me on antibiotics a couple of days ago to try and wipe this cough and sinus issue out so that I'm good to have surgery. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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MissBeagle:
There is a new forum (not sure where exactly but you can search) where folks talk about exhaustion prior to diagnosis. I had this. It was really all I had. And more colds/flu -- sinus infections -- than ever before as well. ALL better after surgery. Crazy, huh?
Good luck to you. Ask any and all questions that you can think of. Someone will step in to answer. We've all been there. You'll make it.
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Finally found others with the fatigue before diagnosis. I was diagnosed at the end of December. IDC 2cm, I've had this fatigue for a few months. Trying to chock it up to other reasons. and thought I was imagining it after diagnosis. Now I know others have the same issue. Thank you for sharing
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I am so glad it's not just me who is fatigued pre treatments. My idc is 5cm and I've been tired for over a year. Makes me wonder how long I've had this.
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Samoya, I too had a 5 cm Idc. The fatigue prior to my diagnosis is what prompted me to get in for all my physicals which I had not scheduled for several years. It was my gynecologist who found my lump. Immediately after my lumpectomy the chronic fatigue lifted. I have since had a BMX with reconstruction and in healing from that surgery (12 days post op) I have more energy than before my original diagnosis
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I had extreme fatigue the summer before my 6 cm IDC tumor was found. The other two symptoms I had - breast pain and
extreme body odor which I had never had before then. Once I had the mastectomy, all of those symptoms lifted.
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So glad to have found this thread! I felt so lousy about 3 months before I was diagnosed that my PCP actually ordered a MRI of my brain. I've been wondering if anyone else had a similar experience...good to know I'm not alone. And yes, my brain was still there.😊 Dealing with radiation fatigue now but that shouldn't be forever.
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Oh, I can relate !! Diagnosed in March 2018, I have been feeling overly tired since October 2017. I am very tuned into my body. I knew something was wrong and began to search for the “reason” in January 2018. You know what they say ..... seek and ye shall find. I found it. Now I would like to give it back. However, I don’t think that will happen. Lol
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Yes my wife has been very tired
My wife and I have just had our first child via IVF in November 2017. My wife has been suffering from Anemia and last week was diagnosed with IDC in both breasts - multi centric. 2cm one breast (left) one cm (right).
She had a bilateral mastectomy three days ago and has been unable to get out of bed. Her Hemoglobin is only 90. Surgeon said surgery went quite well , however I am deeply worried. We get the pathology results on the 29 th March.
My wife is extremely fatigued
Worried sick
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I also was diagnosed in March 2018, and I am having surgery tomorrow. I have been so fatigue, I get winded easily, and I am sore everywhere. I haven't been able to keep up with my running/walking schedule. I am still doing some yoga, which helps. I am getting a massage today to help me relax and feel better
I am looking forward to more answers and to start healing soon. This waiting sucks.
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Dear DeAnneP,
Welcome to the community. We are so sorry about your diagnosis and fatigue. We are glad that you reached out here and introduced to our members. We wish you the very best with your surgery tomorrow. We hope that you will stay connected here and keep us posted on how things go for you. The Mods
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