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Mamma Ray, all will be revealed.

Blue all drugs have consequences. All drugs react differently within us.

You---Plese,-try to find out in the xeloda group where you fit on the 180 degree spectrum. I mentioned Lisinopril. Lisinopripl's 180 degree spectrum ranges from zero cough >>>>to mild cough>>>strong cough>>>hang over the sink and puke cough. What is the experience of the Xeloda group?

There is the difference between the reading about a drug and the taking of a drug.

For example, pain med. We --medical and patient- can come to very specifics about what is pain. Even more so if the medical practitioner has experienced pain. Then it's a shared knowledge.

What is important is to share our knowledge about drugs. That's why many of the threads exist on BCO about drugs. The drugs went through clinical trials. Many affects are not noted until after market wide usage.

The Aromatase Inhibitors are a classic example. The musculoskeletal effects were not noted in clinical trials. I viewed a video of one of the lead researchers saying such. His following comment was "We will have to look at this" My reaction was "No, shit Sherlock" I was on about 5 drugs to control the pain and side effects.

Transferring both post to Pain and things

Blue LOVE the cottage. Life long dream to live in such a cottage. With a completely state of the art inside. i.e kitchen, baths. laundry etc

Joanne thanks for the notice. Sorry about your pics being reported. I think Loverly will have an opinion.

Beatmom thanks for the request, I saw it yesterday and have been thinking. I would love to work on the drugs with you. Hopefully, it would help you, but it will get my brain working too!.

I think you should have the pain genetic panel done. Genelex does it, but there are likely other companies too. Shepkitty had hers done by Genelex. It told her many things. Hopefully she will pop in and chat. She was happy with the results, but not the insurance. But she will also be able to help navigate the insurance.

The reason I think it is important is you are describing a myriad of symptoms. When that occurs, things are muddled.

My counselor who I introduced to Genelex. Started a session one time thanking me for the introduction. Wow how often does your practioner thank you? He had a patient that was a mess with mood swings. He was trying to adjust her on Prozac. But she was swinging wildly. He then decided to have her tested. Prozac only is metabolized by 2D6. For her, that metabolism route was totally absent. He wouldn't have known that without the testing. Many(most) of the psychotropic drugs are metabolized through this route

He was able to work with the Genelex pharmacist and concluded Zoloft would be the drug of choice b/c it doesn't use that path. She was stabilized. This was 2011. Since that time he would not recommended any psychotropic without testing.

First ask your doc for the order for testing, and then work on the insurance approval with Genelex.

Secondly, Within the next few days, you send me your list of all drugs that you have symptoms with and all drugs that you took a year prior to onset of symptoms. I will enter them in my YouScript(genelex) drug checker. We then sign on at the same time. You will be using my username and password. Me too. We are both looking at the same screen. We then go through the drugs. At the same time you will be learning how to use the drug checker.

One of the wonderful features is it suggests alternatives. We then keep substituting alternatives until the profile works it too the least drug interactions. I've done it with many folks.

The disadvantage is your genetics won't be listed. But I can show you my profile and how the genetics change the choice of drugs, or warns that a drug won't metabolize right or at all. The perfect thing is to have the genetics. The next best is to use YouScripts info b/c it so easy to manipulateand read the info. The worst is to do it by hand using the PDR. OH vey, that's what I did with my Greg's drugs before I found Genelex.

I first learned of Genelex in 2010. They were the only ones doing it in the world. Happened upon them with the right Keywords plopped into google. Genelex has now spun, YouScript, off to an independent division or company, so, they could license the program separate from the laboratory division.

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I talked with Phyllis today. She started a new trial. It's the best yet for almost no side effects. She was excited and encouraged.