New Stage IV Dx & Tx with Femara & Ibrance! Help—very scared!
New Stage IV DX w/ILC IDC Mets to Mediastinum Lymph node & Blungs & Diffuse Pleural nodules; starting on Femara and Ibrance Vit D; similar stories, suggestions, shared knowledge wisdom would all be appreciated.- I have not yet shared recurrence info with my 16 & 18 yo? Thank you! Also how do I know when this thread has a reply and how do I best access it
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Bailey, I am sorry for your diagnosis. My mets are not to the same areas as yours, mine are to bones and liver, but I do understand how you feel. Hearing the words of the stage IV diagnosis is shocking and frightening. I thought my life would be over quickly, but I soon learned that many people with MBC live with the disease for many years. Now, more than 2 years after my diagnosis, I continue to lead a fairly normal life. The combo of Ibrance and Femara is a very effective treatment for many people. If you haven't already found the Ibrance thread, here is the link.
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topics/828848
There is a lot of good information there, and many supportive women and men provide helpful information and share their experiences there. My children are older than yours, but I found it difficult to tell them that I was stage four. As soon as I had a treatment plan in place, I sat each of them down and told them and answered their questions while trying to remain positive but truthful. They were strong, but I could see the fear in their eyes. I told them that i would continue to be honest and open with them and would always keep them informed.
I think that by default, when someone starts a new thread, that person receives an email when someone else posts to the thread. If that is the case, you already know that now!
Others with more information and advice will post soon. In the meantime, welcome to the world of MBC, and I am sorry you have reason to join us. Things will be better, really.
Hugs and prayers from, Lynne
P.S. I hope you still take that trip you were planning!
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50’s girl:
Thx for the welcome & link & other info. How did you know of my trip? (I tried posting on site that spoke of Stage IV not meaning imminent end of life cannot remember name of thread; but I looked and I don’t think my post got posted. I’ll figure it out if you can’t explain as I go along posting things. Yes,though, I am hoping to book and pay for a Hawaii trip for our family of 4 for Xmas!
Thx again!
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Hi Bailey, I know about your plans to go to Hawaii from your Private Message. I have more ideas of things for you to do. If I have a chance this weekend, I will send them to you
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Hi Bailey5,
I know it is a kick in gut and your world probably feels like it is spinning out of control right now but that will pass. You will get control back and you will feel much better soon. Do not despair. There are many treatment options available that can slow the progression and give us good quality of life for years. Of course everyone responds differently to the treatments so there will be a lot of ups and downs. It is a bit of a rollercoaster ride. Keep reading and posting on this forum and you'll find a wealth of information, support, understanding and some good laughs that only fellow metsters can provide.
Like 50sgirl I have mets to bone and liver. I'm not familiar with the type of mets you have. I'll do a little research.
Since we live in the same neck of the woods I know it is a beautiful sunny fall day today. Get out and let that sun wash over you. The cool crisp air will be invigorating. It will lift your spirits!
Hang in there. Plan that trip to Hawaii and ENJOY!
Feel free to PM me.
((Hugs))
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Hi Bailey, like you my first diagnosed mets were my lung mets due to a pleural effusion. The good thing was that then they knew the really problem and could fix my shortness of breath.
I actually was on Femara alone for the first 18 months and for the last 7 months on Ibrance and faslodex. I am almost symptomless from my lung mets. Don't be surprised if they find a few bone mets as well which generally happen first but may not cause any symptoms especially if they are sclerotic. Sorry to see you join us but you'll find a lot of support.
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Hi Baily, I was also diagnosed with Mets in lymph node in lung and nodules. I am on Letrazole and Ibrance and is has been effective. It is very difficult when first diagnosed. Please know there have been women who have lived with Mets for many many years. I try to make a point to read their stories on a regular basis.
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Bailey. I posted on Ibrance/ femara thread, too.
I do have what you have! I started TX on January 5, 2017. So, ten months into treatment. August PET showed good response, tumors had reduced uptake by a third to almost half in some. From 6.9 to 3.9 in one, I'm hopeful that my December PET will show more response, even lower uptake.
I was DX almost a year ago. At first, because I had not read about new treatments, I was devastated and thought I would probably not live a year. Then I went through the I'm so scared to start this pill and how on earth can two pills actually be strong enough to kill these big tumors ( it's in my liver, too). Then, disbelief that I could live years, not months. THEN I found hope in these boards. I hardly knew how to post, much less what a thread was. I've come a long way.
Now, I read EVERYDAY and post a lot on several threads. This new habit is my life line. It keeps me encouraged, enlightened and I'm able to encourage others, like you.
Keep posting, keep reading and keep learning
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hi all:
Just logged back in after 4 mos. off-line. Thank you all for your prompt replies and I apologize for my absence—it was quite overwhelming but I think I’m processing things but better now and Zoloft seems to help (but I hate taking it/afraid to stop tho). Completed 4 IBRANCE cycles & CT showed improvement. Is PET Scan protocol for monitoring therapy? I had MRI which was negative for bone & brain involvement (despite my very poor ST memory as of lately ~ 1 year)-i think? How do you rule out liver and bone & brain Mets?
My ONC doesn’t really talk prognosis & what’s next if/when Ibrance/Femara begin to fail. Has anyone gotten to that point. I have yet to begin planning or getting my affairs in order. I do know (hope I’m not offending anyone) I’d like Palliative Care when the time comes (how & when do I initiate that? Also, I’ve lost 4 family members to different cancers over the years/can’t stop thinking about possibly planning to hasten my demise (right to die) with Medicine cocktail when the time is right; but not sure if I’d have to be well enough to go out of state (where it’s legal) to set this up? Any thoughts/insight are welcome (I am catholic/but not practicing); but I want to spare myself/family from those last 3 months. Also, I know I do not want traditional burial/wake possibly even cremation; ideas thoughts on this—can I still do all this if I’m catholic?
I don’t sleep much (anxiety; I guess) and my body is very sluggish. I go crazy for one day activity but cannot do two days in a row—so I have annout day & down day—guess I gotta learn to pace things a bit more? I get exercise & just began yoga. Other ideas (I have ambien—but hate meds).
Again, sorry if this is too deep or morbid thinking. Thank you all for your allowing me to vent and be inquisitive on such sensitive topics. Thank you for your encouragement and sharing your own stories. I hope you are all well. Nite.
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This kind of diagnosis can be overwhelming, Bailey, and in my experience the periods of feeling at peace with it can suddenly be interrupted by another round of overwhelm, sometimes for no apparent reason. It sounds like you're handling things pretty well to me.
Catholics can indeed be cremated. The only stipulation is that the ashes be treated with respect, which typically means having them interred at a permanent site rather than kept on a mantelpiece or scattered somewhere. Many churches now have what is called a columbarium which is a wall of niches for ashes.
I can appreciate your desire to save yourself and your family the challenges and pain of the last months of life. That said, it can be a time of real blessing both for the dying and for those left behind. My father recently passed away and I was with him for much of his last weeks. It was an experience that I would not have missed for the world.
You may find it helpful to find and contact local hospice organizations to find out what end of life palliative care is available for you. To be clear, not all palliative care is related to hospice. Hospice becomes an option once you decide to no longer pursue treatment. Palliative care is available during treatment as well as after treatment has stopped.
These are challenging days, I know, but not all bad. I have found that even a little bit of mindfulness meditation is very helpful for calming anxiety and maintaining normal life.
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snowfall:
Thx again. I’m off to yoga/Meditation tomm & Comedy show in evening with our old friends.
Also, I’m wondering how many have had friendships dissipate since diagnosis. I lost my best friend/sister to cancer in 2005 & since then about 5 more “friends” have faded completely. This may just be related to my children’s friends parents being my “friends” which can typically fade once kids are grown?
Anyhow, I know that Cancer allows us to see things more clearly, take time to reflect, and helps us leave toxic relationship-types; but I’m kinda left feeling isolated (since 2010 surgeries have rendered me disabled) as I have very supportive DH (who has always been my best friend too) & DD & DS & MIL & about1-4 others who I see about 1-2 x’s a year. I’ve tried meetups bookclubs travel groups: just can’t seem to make & keep a new “friend” /connection since I lost my sister/best friend in 2010? Any thoughts?
Thx all! Goodnite
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