Take the Fright Out of Breast Cancer™

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  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017

    We'll know there's a cure for bc when Stage 4 folks stop dying. Meanwhile, we can party in pink and pretend all is well while ever we are NED.


  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    Ok - leave to the bloke to get to the point 😉

  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    For me wellput traveltext 😊

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2017

    I guess I am glad that breast cancer awareness month isn't in November. Or we could be looking at well developed turkey breasts, with nipples perhaps.

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017

    Tomboy, I hear BCO are planning a campaign for November along the lines of: Thanksgiving: Lots to be grateful for!


  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2017

    you ARE joking, aren’t you?🤦♀️

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017
  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited October 2017

    Traveltext, you are baaadddd to the bone! LO

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2017

    Thank Dog. 🐩.

  • mebmarj
    mebmarj Member Posts: 380
    edited October 2017

    Back to the "cure" commentary. I would argue that I have been treated successfully (to date) with no evidence of disease. I will not say I am "cured."

    To me and most people I know a "cure" means it's going to fix the problem without residual disease symptoms for anyone who gets that disease and corresponding treatment.

    There is no cure for cancer, only treatments based upon the cancer/tumor's location, size, characteristics and ability of the patient to tolerate said treatment. We don't fail treatment- the current treatments fail us.

    Do I fear cancer? Yes. Will there ever be a day when I won't? I don't think so. I have experienced some of the darkest days because of cancer and treatments- and I fear ever having to do that again. There will never be 'taking fear out of cancer' for me until there truly is a cure and we fully understand how it happens to healthy young people to begin with- when they have no family connection or gene mutation.

    Think of that historical fear quote, but replace one of the "fear" with cancer. "The only thing we have to fear is cancer itself." Find me a sane person who disagrees with that.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2017

    traveltext, that was funny! But in an odd way, I found out I was loved. I never believed it, before. (edited to add: and for that, I am quietly and humbly grateful.)

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2017

    So much here to continue to process - and we're doing it! And as always, we thank you for your honest, heart-felt feedback. Like we mentioned last week, we are indeed reevaluating this campaign, with all of your concerns.

    Thank you.



  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017


    Thanks Mods, perhaps just start my processing the fact that according to nearly everyone here, taking over Halloween for BC fundraising is a bad move.


  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    I have been posting and watching this thread with interest.

    I am amazed by how difficult it is to shift something once a path/plan is perceived to be established - life is not like that at all.

    The most successful people and enteprizes, not to mention nature itself, have flexibility as part of their resilience. They know when to stop, change direction, dump the plan, fight for the plan, they are in constant motion/ "processing" if you like.

    It's vital for breast cancer treatment - no path or treatment is completely set in stone/predetermined (apart maybe from surgery).

    Starting a treatment does not mean you have to finish it exactly the way you planned when you started.

    In fact persisting with something that does more harm then good is wasteful of life and opportunity.

    Being able to learn and adapt is essential for survival.

    😊

  • HoneyBadger47
    HoneyBadger47 Member Posts: 98
    edited October 2017

    This was posted by cp413 - hopefully I got that right because with my brain fog, I can't be sure.

    This conveys a lot of my frustration. If you are "lucky" here is what you are left with: http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/176194/life-afte...

    It is a FRIGHTENING and a heavy load to carry when you are living it.

    You can't have a discussion about BC if you want to take fright out of the discussion.


  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017

    Searing analysis of this illconceived BCO campaign here:

    http://nancyspoint.com/take-fright-breast-cancer-s...


  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2017
  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited October 2017

    On the local news today in honor of Pinktober, 63 will be dx’d this week in your area this weekand ____ will die. It caught me by surprise so I didn’t catch the second number. It’s like a BC factory. My area eh? And what does that encompass? The county, I suppose? Has anyone figured out that this BCOcampaign will be dragged out until Nov. 1 and nothing has changed except the wording?

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2017

    did you really expect them to change/cancel it? I didn’t. As I said earlier, they will pat us on the head and say there, there. But do nothing to stop it.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited October 2017
  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017


    Anytime the community here gets up in arms over something that BCO has done, management make condescending noises, then hope that it will blow over or fade away quickly. They just ride it out and keep doing whatever it was they wanted to do.

    What a shame.


  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    ahhh... this is a simple thing to fix - someone came up with this and possibly that someone does not have breast cancer and/or had given it sufficient thought

    I know money went into the proposed campaign but I really don't see how it will be successful - where donation targets defined?? It is doing well so far??

    At the risk of sounding crude - come on - best thing to bring to your Halloween party your one breasted, chemo bold, bone metastasis ridden friend.
    That sounds insensitive?? - IT IS!
  • Lisey
    Lisey Member Posts: 1,053
    edited October 2017

    No, I totally understand it. The target is groups of healthy of people wanting to have a themed party and make it a cause to donate to. It could have been Poverty "Take the fright out of hunger" , or "Take the Fright out of pet abuse", etc. etc. It's not saying they want people to bring the homeless to the parties or abused pets either.. it's just a way to capitalize on a season of party throwing. Halloween is one of the funnest party events there is, so if a charity can mobilize people to think of them and donate while they are out having fun, that's what they do.

    I think you guys are all overthinking this. Wealthy donors are the target. Charities can make in tons of money by piggybacking on fun events. and Wildplaces, you are wrong about this being ineffective. It's effective as hell. Targeting 40- 60 year olds with wealth by throwing fun events is the way to people's wallets for a good cause. Have you ever been to an auction that benefits a charter school? $10,000 bermuda trip? $3000 condo weekend? All these are gone in seconds by women with older children and tons of money to spend. All have themeing too. Luaus, Halloween, Carnivals, etc.

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017


    Lisey, I respect your point of view but, I have to say, there's a hell of a lot of people overthinking this issue here and on social media.


  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2017

    Travel, I don’t do other social media, so am curious if the feelings are the same as this thread?

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2017

    Maybe we could open up a new thread soon, where creative thinking people could come up with some ideas for a fund raising event, and then somehow we could tabulate the votes, and BCO could do that idea? Would that make more people happy? Runs and walks are none too fresh ideas. And I think that is part of what Lisey is saying. Make it fun and they will come. Can we do this? It would be a more democratic process, and we do have some seriously great minds gathered here at BCO. It could become an annual thing itself, a new fundraising theme every year.

    I just do think that anyone trying to raise money for anything having to do with breast cancer in this month,(altho somehow, it seems to be the month we were given. is going to have a hard time competing with Halloween/Samhain/All Souls/ El dios de Los Muertes. It is the unofficial beginning of the social season for the moneyed set. EVERYBODY loves cosplay, and the idea of being generous.

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited October 2017

    Spookiesmom. The Underbelly Facebook page has the following comments (names deleted):

    Take the fright out of breast cancer??? Is that possible!??? My first reaction was...Fu*k that! Grrr...

    There is NOTHING that will take the fright out of this or any of this or any other type of cancer. This is insulting to those of us who live with that core of fear every day. Some days is all consuming and some days it shrinks to a small kernel, but for me it never really goes away.

    They trademarked it. 😑

    Not my cup of tea. The marketing department obviously thinks they are brilliant, and has zero Stage IV input.

    This is so ignorant and demeaning to everyone who is affected, including our families and friends who are also afraid of this damn disease and scary treatments. Just looking at this is traumatizing in its callousness.

    This is insulting, as it implies there's nothing to be scared of. The only way this might be an ok campaign is after there's a cure found. And even then it's not respectful of all the pain and trauma of treatment.

    The Underbelly website comments on the BCO campaign:

    https://theunderbelly.org/2017/10/a-most-frightful...

    And Nancy Stordahl, author, blogger and freelance writer is getting this article spread around on Twitter;

    http://nancyspoint.com/take-fright-breast-cancer-s...


  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    Lisey,


    No one is overthinking this.


    It's a bad idea - and a lazy one at that.


    It is going to fail and no one will be held responsible for it because the projected figures will be modest.


    It is very sad to have lost a great opportunity.


    And I repeat myself - the techniques you are describing are outdated - 80s....😊
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 864
    edited October 2017

    Ohhh and Lisey the only time " take the fright out of hunger" is an ok statement is if you are encouraging the morbidly obese to loose weight

    And even then it's debatable

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited October 2017

    Lisey, I don't think we are "overthinking" this campaign, per se. I know it was a gut feeling of disgust for me the minute I heard it. I don't know about you, but I got several e-mails announcing this campaign and was offended by the crassness of the whole concept. I find an organization such as BCO has lost its sensitivity on the subject and putting it out there to its community in this manner makes it look like they have lost touch with the community they say they are helping. When so many women and men have to deal with the side effects of treatment, turning breast cancer into a "party atmosphere" is a slap in the face.

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