Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!
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Paulette - I did put tofu and then thought after maybe I shouldn't have. My cancer is triple negative but I should still be careful. I understand that miso is ok though.
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Has anyone tried lysine for mouth issues? I take it occasionally when stressed or after sun exposure to prevent cold sores. A few days ago the roof of my mouth felt like it had a billion tiny bumps on it. I recalled that lysine was good for mouth and lip health and took it for two days and my mouth is back to normal. Could be just the course of my chemo or maybe it actually helped.
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Thank you Dodgersgirl and Letherette. Imageee that this stuff is amazing. I'll be using this for the rest of my life. It is rock solid and my polish stays on until it grows out. I like the Avoplex as well.
KYbythe lake. Hugs to you during your head shave.
I'm feeling single strands of hair wafting across my shoulders. I should keep my hair for another week. BTW every time I tune into a video that has anything to do with cancer I have to listen to the advert for the class action suit against Sarnoff for Taxotere permanent baldness side effect. Not fun as Taxotere is one of my meds. I so hope for a different outcome.
Off to PT today. It is really helping. Have a great day everyone
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rdeeside- put seaweeds instead of tofu and you can put egg drops too.
Marooshka lysine mouth wash??
Hope everyone had a great long weekend, mine was uneventful I was tired and slept most of the days.
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I also am on TC protocol-am 20 days out from first infusion-next tomorrow- I am using the Penguin Cold Caps and have not lost any hair--My daughter is my partner and was a long 7 hours of changing caps every 25 minutes- but for me well worth it as the capping has a high success rate with this protocol so will keep fingers crossed!
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PauletteK - lysine capsule or pills. It is an amino acid and I was given clearance to keep taking them during chemo- though some are bundled with other supplements so you should check to be sure if you are interested in trying. You can get them at any grocery store or health food store. I have no idea if they really help with the mouth sores or if it was just a coincidence!
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I've been crying for two days straight. Yes, I'm sad but this out of control crying really isn't like me. I wonder if the chemo has messed up my hormones? Anyone else have this? I really think the chemo is causing it. Just looking to commiserate with someone. Everything will be ok, I just need to get through this phase. I keep getting side effects I don't want. :-)
R
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rdeesides: I thought the same thing! The first time I sobbed uncontrollably, I definitely need a release, but the next day and the next made me think it must also be hormonal. And speaking of, my cycle is definitely out of whack too...and without boobs anymore I don't have the same warning signs anymore. But also, it is one thing to just march forward and do all the things we are supposed to be doing, but the weight and reality of it all is so very heavy. So it is no wonder it would make a person cry and cry.
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Marooshka - I had tried L lysine pills before it seems my mouth sore is under control for now, I will ask my Onc next visit.
Rdeeside- I can see why we are depressed these SE are keep coming back, it's like a circle. Only thing I tell myself is it will end soon. We just need to be strong and fight this battle.
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R - I think we all have crying fits. How can't we? Our lives have been turned upside down and it is due to no fault of our own. My DH is a big one for focusing on today, which does help me keep it together. What hurts the most is seeing how this crap affects our loved ones. For me, communicating here keeps me sane. I still think to myself at least once a day "I can't believe I have BC.
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This morning I thought about how my life was before it was wonderful until this horrible news it made my life changed totally. I cried but what can I do? I have to accept what happened to my life 😭😭😭
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I will never forget the unreal moment -standing at my kitchen counter during the afternoon following my annual,never miss, mammo in the morning- was just a check off my to do list-had been normal thru 30 years of having them--and getting the call back that it was abnormal-was out of body experience--made mistake of looking up my films on line- work at the hospital so can access my record on line- and easily saw what the concern was on the films--it was awful having to wait those 2 days for the u/s and bx which I was prepared for to be positive-as it was- I am so fortunate to work at a nationally renowned medical center with a fabulous breast care program and was surrounded by a top notch team of experts at the top of their field--have had lumpectomy-am stage 2- doing 4 treatments of TC--treatment 2 tomorrow prior to radiation and AL's longterm. Am doing the cold capping and very hopeful I will not lose my hair--huge boost for me.
what have I learned thru this journey which still has a ways to go?-have learned to not take anything ,and I mean anything for granted in my life and to treasure and love even harder those who have loved and rallied unfailingly around me--they are true treasures..
..we can all get thru this -a big bump in the road of life for sure--just put our heads down- trust our team for the experts they are and know we will get our lives back-and be the wiser for what we have gone thru--hugs to all on this path,,,
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Hugs to all of you, I cry very often, out of loss of my previous life, out of fear, out of how surrealistic life has become meanwhile people there outside are happy and living their lives and mine will never be the same. Most importantly for the loved ones. It is an impossible journey, we are all allowed to cry a river each, it is normal to turn into a person with a deadly disease over a night. I have never cried that much in my entire life. We all experience PTSD plus uncertainty about the outcome. I tell myself though that if anything unwanted would happened it will not happen today and in the future I will regret not living today. I really do not know myself what strategies to deploy but when it comes to tears it is better to let them out when they come. Cherry
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All I know our life wouldn't be the same I don't know when this cancer will recurrence again, I could only live one day at a time. Let's hope the treatment will help to extend our health.
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I second every word.
Previous ten plus mammos at a same place started since my early 30s missed bilateral BC. I still want to go crazy re how got here and want to turn back for do over. I miss my perky boobs at times. I used to have nightmares in which I got hit by BC tank and I could not get up. Then I realized that there is only one choice for me. Crying became less frequent soon after even though I still do internally
Sisters, this is a bleep for sure which pollutes our body and soul. We have to get up somehow someway to go on with life
Thank you all for listening,
Mimi
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R - you look great! And I definitely think hormones are playing a huge part in the crying. i was told that my course could trigger menopause. So I could only assume it would have effects.
The Katz books look great, I'll definitely have to look into them.
K - the whole "hair coming out by the handfuls" was extremely stressful for me it was easier to just shave it!
Burning question. Is anyone else having bladder issues? I'm day 14 tx2 - The last 4 mornings when rolling out of bed I peed a little. It was just a couple drops, but this has NEVER happened to me before. I've kicked up my kiegels, but it's pretty embarrassing.
PTSD seems legitimate. I've not considered it before, but I can totally see it. Right now I'm still so sad and angry (depending on the hour) about the entire situation. And my husband just doesn't get it.
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Kritti- call you doc, you might have bladder infection
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I had my head shaved this afternoon and it actually wasn't that hard. I feel like I've overcome a huge hurddle and that's a big relief!
Since this is my second go with breast cancer--my first was in 2006 and only required a lumpectomy and radiation--this hasn't been as life altering as the first time. I haven't felt scared or sad as much as just really pissed off! This is my first time doing chemo, though, and that's been challenging.
Nevertheless, I am so happy to be living my dream on the shores of Lake Superior, even cancer can't bring me down! I've waited so long for this, t's hard to look out at my beautiful little town on that great big lake and not feel grateful.
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Hi All,
I got very depressed when my stretch of bad days went longer in the second round than in the first round. It sucks, and of course we cry! I don't cry often, but def. more than I used to. I tend to get more grumpy or quiet. However, when I start to feel better, I am elated! OMG, I ate and it tasted good! OMG, I drank a beer! OMG, I'm not in constant pain from mouth sores! OMG, I went to work!
And in the back of my mind, even when I am happy about something, I keep thinking...the shit will hit the fan Sunday or Monday (Days 4-5 after next infusion), and I'm full of dread. The ups and downs are pretty exhausting.
Kritti, In terms of peeing, I am finding that all this water drinking is increasing my bladder capacity. I can hold it longer, and when I do go, it just goes on and on. I used to pee a little when I sneezed -I don't think I have sneezed since starting chemo. We'll see.
Rdeesides, sorry you are feeling down right now. Be good to yourself.
Hugs all round. Glad to be able to come here and be with you guys. And even the sweetest of partners likely doesn't get it. Mine is trying, but it's hard. And I do feel bad for him. He's got a lot on his plate (mom in hospice, me going through this), and he doesn't have a group like this to talk to.
And great pic, Kbythelake!
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k you look so free! I love the smile!
Bladder infection?! Jeez, I've never had one before, but I have had a UTI and this feels different.
Leatherette, I'm with you. I feel like it's always hanging over my head. While I feel better I'm still thinking about the bad. This second TX hit me a lot harder than the first, too. intellectually I knew that each treatment wouldbe worse, that the SE are cumulative... but I was naive and assumed it wouldn't be much worse. You know what they say about assuming 😕
Positive for today - I've started doing *girl* pushups in an attempt to rebuild some of my strength from my surgery. Doing those, crunches, and planks are the first exercise I've attempted since before surgery and it felt good! Maybe tomorrow I'll try a little yoga.
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Have been bald for awhile and don't mind about it also.
Can't continue crying we have to pick up ourselves and go forward.
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PauletteK--You're gorgeous!
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KbytheLake and Paulette you guys look great! I havent been able to small so much with my bald head. When you are smiling and look happy, you look pretty too. You guys inspire me to smile!
Kritti, I was thinking I need to do weights but haven't bought any. Maybe I will try to do some planks or pushups tmrw. It's a good thing to do and no equipment needed! I want to build strength before surgery. Plus, I could lose a few pounds so strength training will help! Also, Im doing a different chemo than you but have noticed I have more bladder urgency, like when I have to pee, I have to go right now! I think this is definitely a SE of chemo and it should get better after we are done.
Leatherette, my bad days are going longer in the 2nd round than in the 1st too! I hope this doesnt increase again on the third! The good news is, they have been less severe, but just lasting longer.
Mimi, I had a bc nightmare the other night too. I think we all have PTSD, except it's not even post, it's current, so more like CTSD. Haha. One day at a time. We will make it through.
Cherry, some of my tears started because I saw some of my friends getting together to go wine tasting and I was so sad I don't feel like doing that (plus I wasnt invited). I'm super social and it is so hard to see everyone out having fun while I'm sitting on the couch wanting to throw up.
Kaylie, I too have learned to not take lovedones for granted. And it has been eye opening to see who has really stepped up. I tell my friends I love them on a regular basis now.
VL22, I feel like this is really the only place I can really vent, so this site keeps me (somewhat) sane too. DH can't handle seeing me upset because it upsets him too much.
Marooshka, I am not happy other people are sad too, but I am glad to know we are in this together. At least we understand each other.
Thanks All, of course you really get it. Like Scarlett O'Hara always said, "Tomorrow is Another Day". We will make it through.
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I went thru a phase post dx where my fear of what would/could happen was overwhelming- I was afraid of everything and all things related to this nitemare-saw my arms wide unlimited life possibilities suddenly shrink to maybe no possibilities at all-all the things I still want to do and accomplish yet--poof??
the worst for me was all the waiting for appts, results, a plan of action to start after my dx- lumpectomy-kept imagining those possible microscopic leftover cells that might be circulatiing around looking for a place to land with each day that passed..
what helped me was to get started/going on the treatment plan and to use visual imagery and when watching the chemo dripping in= picturing it seeking out and killing any rogue cells--it is our friend, not enemy--the side effects will pass----
Also having success with the cold caps--so far-- has been huge.Urge their use for those who are adamant on saving their hair--
I did check out some other online support groups but quickly became upset at how many women were not listening to their team of experts and making their own treatment choices based on what they had heard /read online and not based on any scientific research of effectiveness- some were truly signing their death sentences based on ignorance or false beliefs-- we are not experts- please listen to and trust the advice of your care team--they are the experts-- and are trying to save us--hugs to all,K
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I agree that it is really hard to be out of the loop while others get to live normal lives. This weekend my husband and I had to pass on attending a destination wedding that all of our friends attended. One hour before he was to get married, the groom called us to see how I was. His thoughtfulness was so touching, I cried. I do a lot of that, but not because I am am upset about hair (which will come back), but because I want to live and be with my loved ones and I am considered high risk for recurrence. But I need to trust the process and the excellent care of my medical team. Fight on ladies
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it is nice to wake up to read all your posts. I find that you are the ones who understand. In regards to crying, I have had my moments and like you Cherry they are mostly from fear. I have a world of "what ifs" inside my head that I can't erase. I have been in the medical profession all my life and the last eight years prior to my retirement I worked in Hospice. So, I know my thinking is somewhat skewed and I fight hard to remember how overwhelmingly the statistics are in our favor. The new developments are amazing and we are fighters. Again, just need to ignore sentences that start with "what if". LIke you Kbythe Lake, (beautiful picture BTW) this is my someday. My husband and I have worked like crazy all of our lives. We laugh when we say we may make our 50th Anniversary next year but we have to see if we really do get along because we have been two ships in the night for the first 49. We have finally saved the money to retire (those college years wipe out your savings) and then this diagnosis upset our plans for world travel and play. I just booked a trip abroad for March and I am determined to get there. I pray that I can kick this disease to the curb and come back better than my old self.
I knew from my friends that the first chemo is often the easiest but it is still so hard to push through. I hope you all get to the good days quickly. The best part is each one is a notch on the belt and we get closer to ringing the bell.
I'm getting my wig cut today. I hope my hairdresser can perform a miracle otherwise I have wasted a ton of money. I was so set on human hair and yet the cheap acrylic looks so much nicer. I also hope I have a nice shaped head like you beautiful women. That helps I think. My bald son and I are going to have a picture taken since we look so much alike. That .should be fun.
Have a great day ladies. Thank you for all your wise words and support
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Great pictures KbyTheLake and PauletteK!
KbyTheLake, I had to google Lake Superior pictures to see it for myself, you are absolutely true, what a beautiful surroundings. Your nick reminds me of The Lake House, one of my favorite movies of all time, Keanu Reeves is just so smoky.
I am sitting here scooping chocolate ice-cream out of the jar, this is my first ice-cream since I have been diagnosed back in June. I must be my PTSD or whatever other condition but my body just has been craving sugar since my 2nd round of Taxol. I have already gained back 3 kg. I started with white bread because I had an upset stomach and the weight just started climbing again. My hair is shedding and my blood works went down according to my oncologist. I just got from the clinic where I had a meeting with a third oncologist and I liked her very much. I had all these detailed questions to ask and she was wondering what I was working with, like for a living? When I replied that I was an office rat she was a bit disappointed I guess but she suggested we will book another meeting so we can go through all the questions on my list.
redeesides, I know what you mean about how you feel to be left outside and how it will be you and them just because you have bc. It is all unfair to the point that one can feel awful for a small stuff and them not inviting you is not small. It is very insensitive and believe me your friends do not understand it, they think that you need your time to focus on your treatment and for them it might be easier not to be reminded of cancer, because all people without cancer always think that it will never happen to them. These boards are priceless when it comes to venting, you do not have to explain why you are feeling low or what has happened to you, you can get straight to the point, everybody knows. So just rant on.
I will ground some chicken with onions and cook frikadeller, small meatballs, in the Rebecca Katz Magic Mineral Broth with some noodles.
Hugs to all of you!
Cherry
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Kbythelake - your picture really made me smile! Truly makes me happy to see you enjoying the moment - an inspiration for the dsy
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My wig pic. My natural hair was all one length to the middle of my back, but I always wore it in a ponytail or bun, so this looks nothing like my "normal" hair. But I like it - the kids are like "who are you again?" I love teenagers!
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Paulette another beautiful bald. VL22 what a great wig
I so relate to being left out. Down south we call it FOMO fear of missing out. I can't begin to tell you the special occasions that are possibly out to me depending on SE going forward.
My heart goes out to all of you experiencing worst SE with 2nd infusion. That's scary.
My biggest side effect was from the Neulasta and Onc says it won't be as bad next time but then again he was the one who told me my "hair will thin a little" . Kinda makes me think of years ago when my gyro referred to contractions as " discomfort" . Masters of all nderstatement.
Hope you all have a very bearable day.
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