Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!
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DodgersGirl- Would Advil works?? Just wonder
KbytheLake - I'm trying not to get myself overthinking and get depressed. TBH I'm scared on my last AC I worry my body could only take so much.
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Kimberbir, Good luck with Taxol #2. The best thing about each step is that we are one step closer to being done. Im not losing hair yet but my scalp is itchy and I assume once I have tx #2 on Thursday it will happen quickly. I am going to get a buzz cut. Im thinking about dying it purple even though it wont last long.
Paulette, I suppose it is for the best that Im not going to work and dont know tons of people here due to the WBC count issue. If I was getting invited out a lot I would be so tempted... plus there is no way I could work right now.
KbytheLake, every day has been a new surprise as far as side effects. And Ive heard some people say it varies each treatment. I'm hoping I learn as I go so I can get ahead of them. Oh dear, I have cowlicks too. Will be interesting if they are noticeable when I buzz my hair on Friday.
On a happy note, I have some beautiful designer scarves that I love and I rarely wear. Getting them out and getting ready to use them. Im not eager to have to cover my head during San Diego's Santa Ana winds. My house doesn't have A.C. Fortunately, I'm alone a large portion of the day so my head can be naked. :-)
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Redesides, we are trying to keep my cancer private, I do not feel comfortable to tell it to the neigbours even though I understand that they will figure it out sooner or later. we are planning to tell them eventually but right now I feel I have not landed in it myself, I cannot stand all the worried phone calles and well wishes start dropping in in my phone and mailbox. They already do since my manager informed everybody that I will be on a sick leave until the end of the year, but he told me: people are asking me all these questions, they are worried. i told him we will tel them later. I mean I know I cannot control it and it did happened but sometimes I feel like it would be fine to be in another city without people knowing what is going on in our life, I would have not felt guilty for holding the information for myself. Today I got an advice to start a FB support group, this is something to consider I thought. I agree with KbytheLak, bc is a lonely expirience, I feel no one who did not have it can really understand what a person with this diagnosis is going through, this is why I am on these bord so much. Hugs, Cherry
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paulettek- maybe Advil would work? My MO was pretty insistent that I took Aleve twice a day for joint and bone pain from Taxol for 4-5 days after treatment.
I did this for a could of Taxol treatments. Then the joint/bone pain dwindled and I didn't take any more Akeve
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Cherry, It is good we have this board to support each other. I also only told two people at work (muy boss and my former boss). None of my neighbors know, but Im wondering if they will catch on? Old and dear friends do know, partly because I didnt want them to be hurt that I hadn't told them but also partly because I needed somone to vent to. At the end of the day we dont have to tell anyone we don't feel comfortable telling.
It's true, unless you have been through it it's impossible to understand. Most people just say, oh you get new boobs! As if I'm getting spa treatments instead of chemo. I can tolerate that from people that I know mean well, but it would piss me off from other people so better to just not say anything.
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My family knew and most of my neighbors knew can't hide since I live in a street only have 20 houses and I walk daily without hair. They treated me as before and they ask how am I doing from time to time. Some even offered helps but I hate to ask for helps.
As far as friends I hate to vent to them so I pretty much stay away from them. We exchanged text once in awhile they won't understand what we are going through. My sister in law on target treatment for 7-8 years talking to her make me more depressed.
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really glad to read some of you haven't told neighbors and such about your diagnosis. Helps me feel more "normal". I told my immediate family and my employer but only a couple of friends. Just didn't want the pity looks. So between not telling people and staying away from people due to low white blood counts, BC can be a lonely path to walk.
Once hubby had his heart attack and bypass surgery, I became the one that had to be strong and take care of him instead of the other way around. And that meant going everywhere low WBC or not. With that I talked to neighbors and told them our situation. Most knew I had something wrong as I went from someone with waist length hair to a bald lady. For me, some how it became easier to talk to others about my dx after hubby's event. Now I tell everyone. Maybe it's because we needed help with things around the house or because DH and I were both sick so pitty was shared now???
So baldie me just puts on a ball cap and heads out into the world now and am even to the point where I don't think about the lose of my hair.
Guess there is no real point of my post other than to acknowledge that we are on a path we never wanted to be on and each of us is strong enough to do this day by say
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Well, it seems my grace period has ended. Holy mackerel that bone pain hurts. I feel like the Claritin has not done me much good. I have taken Tylenol and no luck. I don't have any Aleve but may get some tomorrow. How do you ladies go to work with this pain
My stomach is upset as well and basically my insides have turned to cement. I'm taking stool softeners and drinking a ton. Hopefully, this will resolve the situation. I did get out and walk this AM and of course it helps some. Can you all tell me how long this Neulasta reaction lasts?
I know what you mean about the loneliness. I experience feelings of being left out. There are so many family and friend occasions coming up and I don't know which if any I'll be getting to. I would say I have a major case of FOMO(fear of missing out). My hearts goes out to those of you in new cities. That must be really difficult. I also feel for the working gals who have that worry as well. I can't even begin to imagine how those with children are coping. So when I think that I am lucky enough to be retired with really nobody depending on me and my husband home on some days, I have to count my blessings.
Prayers for all of you
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Susan - I took stool softener then at night I drink smooth move tea , usually I won't let me constipation over two days. Once it passed two days you need something strong such as Miralax.
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SusanGA: what day after infusion did the bone pain start for you? The bone pain starts for me on day 4 and lasts to day 6 or 7. It goes away gradually for me so on day 6 I am able to work. My treatment day is Thursday so I don't go back to work until Tuesday. I only use Tylenol for the pain which didn't help me much either. Others say Aleve or Advil works but I've never tried either one since I didn't want to spend for a whole bottle for only a few pills. I guess I could buy the travel size & see if it works.
On my 2nd treatment, I tried Claritin a day before the Neulasta shot and for the next week until the bone pain was gone. And I still had bone pain that lasted the same amount of time, but was less excruciating than the first time. Hope this helps you!
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I have no idea if this is the reaaon why or not, but I started Claritin two days before and took it for two days after and didn't have bone pain. Who knows though.
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hi all
my doctor says i have nothing to worry about with my lump size. she measured and it looks about the same size. she was really nice about it.
for those with bone pain, aleve helps! my bone pain started on the 3rd day and lasted about 2-3 days. as of now i have no bone pain.
im still taking tylenol for my sore gums! i hate it.
Leatherette, it sucks that this round is bad for you. that scares me, that every chemo round might be different in how it affects us. i wish it the same so we can plan accordingly.
only one of my neighbors know and they are real nice. im sure others will eventually find out. my entire family knows, all of my friends, close coworkers and bosses. i sometimes also feel left out since i cant attend family events due to side effects but sometimes i feel i'd rather stay home and binge on netflix instead to avoid the thousand questions from them.
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Paulette, thank you for the smooth move suggestion. I will try it tonight if today remain "uneventful"
Sunnyjay my bone pain started on Day three about 24 hours after the onpro went off. I started Claritin the morning of chemo. I would take Aleve but my stomach is really ripped up. I had heartburn in my younger days and this is a completely different pain (does not radiate to the chest). It feels like an ulcer.
My DH is planning on working today and he has said he will stay home if I really need him. I hate to ask but the hard part for me is managing our dog. He is an old guy who has to be picked up to go outside and then you wait for him to remember what he is out there for. I am going to try to go it alone today. I know many of you do and I may just be projecting. Things might get better today. Still feel miserable right now though.
Thank God you are all here
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Hi Gang, I am starting Day 6 after first round of TC. All has been manageable, the most notable things for me is a skull cracking headache (to the point that I could not wear reading glasses, the 'arms' bothered my head - bad enough reading glasses hit my ego), blurred vision and general brain fog- I thought it was the 'normal' fog' brain, blurred vision from chemo brain (good guess?), however, through process of elimination based on my post Chemo SE tips/mgmt, I think the Zophran may be causing the headache extreme (good and bad news).
I am ramping down that drug as of today, so I will test my theory - its like a clue game, getting excited about narrowing in on the suspect. (Ok, I need to get out more). I will take headache to nasuea, I just don't want to suffer if there are alternatives - so I continue on my quest to conquer both nausea and headache. I repeat for those that are new and lurking, it is NOTHING what you are imagining, totally manageable. I feel this overwhelming sense of entitlement to reduce suffering with the help of modern medicine, so I continue on my quest to feel normal and feel that I can prevail .. (again, i might need to get out more - hopefully you are all laughing a little).
I called dr and asked about headache and hopefully we can maybe alter next time and/or least I know how to get relief (way, way too many OTC painkillers, alternating). I will keep asking to see if alternatives. I have a hard time working like that and work is one of my most effective therapies! I must work
... it keeps me distracted and motivated on a something other than bc.
Last question for this am -- other than diet (fiber, liquids), exercise -- what have you used for constipation?
I was researching Miralax, as an extra push - any other ideas? I need to 'run' out this am and try something in this area - not bad, I don't want to overdue it - just a 'gentle' push/helping hand. Any tips or tricks you have tried?
Makeuplover - FANTASTIC news!! I am glad your ONC gave you some reassurance, now give you immune system/stress a break and let your body heal. I felt relieved for you after reading that post - so thank you.
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MakeupLover- Glad your MO gave you reassurance. I thought mine was really growing too just prior to chemo and MO told me she thought the tissue was swollen. Did your MO advise at what point they will rescan? I haven't asked that question either but will do at my next appt.
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TravelGirl: did your BC team hand you a packet containing a list of OTC's to take for side effects? Like for diarrhea (D), constipation, nausea? Also, my medical group has a secure website where I can ask non-emergency questions which I have used a lot. Also, I have called the (triage) BC nurse to ask about headaches, Big D, coming in for a juice up/fluid replenishment. Depending on the need, they usually call me right back.
P.S. I waited a bit too long to try something for blockage (that's what it turned into) and I should have called them (after not reading the "list").
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Travel - for constipation, here is my answer for Susan
"took stool softener then at night I drink smooth move tea , usually I won't let me constipation over two days. Once it passed two days you need something strong such as Miralax"
I think the SE for each infusion is very similar, I finally have one mouth sore on my third infusion. I am one of this people get mouth sore easily, I cut out spicy and greasy food during this time to avoid mouth sore. I just found that my day 6 was worse than previously and I think it was due to my low WBC even with the shot. If you ask me am I still scared to do my last AC infusion, my answer is Yes. I'll happy to finish also I'm scared too
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SusanGA I was given Zarxio which I have to inject myself for 5 days - instead of the Neulasta shot. I started Claritin a couple days before my first round of chemo, but did notice some really uncomfortable deep joint and muscle pain starting the day I started the injections. Walking does help but since I am still recovering from the bilateral mastectomy, stretching my upper back is really challenging and sometimes on the walk I have to stop and sort of pathetically try to stretch my arms just to release enough to keep walking. I tried Aleve yesterday instead of ibuprofen and I do think it helped take the edge off. I also did a bunch of stretching of my legs and hips which was super intense but helped with lower back and hip: www . onemedical . com/blog/live-well/low-back-yoga/ (I can't post that as a link, but you can remove the spaces and try that)
Travel Girl: I also had crazy awful headaches last two days (I am also day 6). I was wondering if the anti nausea meds I was on were maybe another culprit and am going to stop those as of today. For added fiber, I have always had a glass of psyllium husk at night which normally does the trick. But for this craziness, I have added in a couple small cups during the day. It is not, I would say "satisfying", but things at least are progressing.
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Hi - I have suffered with constipation my entire adult life, and ironically, chemo has actually made me more "regular". I did have a serious bout of constipation after my bmx (10 days without going). I've tried it ALL!
What works for me is a product called "Calm". You can pick it up at GNC or probably order it online. My cousin is a nutritionist and recommended it to me. It is basically just powered form of Magnesium Citrate (the same stuff they make you take for a colonoscopy) and Calcium. I checked with my MO and pain management specialist, and they were both fine with me using it. I use 2 teaspoons of the powder with hot water (it fizzes) and it tastes like a raspberry lemon tea. It takes about 24 hours to kick in. It has worked for me every time.
I've uploaded a picture of the front of the bottle, if you're interested.
Hope it helps
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Hi Cherry,
So, my first Taxol was DD and I had no reaction to it, except 3 days later with excruciating bone pain, and neuropathy so the doc changed me to weekly Taxol. My last three weeks of weekly infusion began with a Saline drip first, then Benadryl, and then 1 Percocet, and 3 Decadron pills, and exactly 7 minutes into the infusion of Taxol, I started to feel my chest get really tight, cheeks flush, started to cough, and blood pressure went up dangerously high. The nurse was sitting across from me so she stopped the Taxol, and within seconds I was fine.... they waited 20 minutes, gave me more steroids, and started Taxol at a slower drip, and then I was fine. Fortunately, with the weekly Taxol, no SE to complain about except not being able to sleep the whole night of infusion because of the steriods. Last two infusions i didn't have a reaction because they gave me 6 Decadrons and an antihistamine before the infusion, and that kept the reaction away. I wouldn't worry to much, the nurse monitors you the first 15 minutes, and checks your blood pressure closely, and the reaction doesn't happen to everyone. I guess Taxol is plant based, and I have asthma and have tree allergies, and wonder if that has something to do with it. The reaction comes on suddenly, but as soon as you I mentioned it to the nurse, it took her less than 30 seconds to turn off the infusion, and I was fine, so please don't worry, I will pray that it doesn't happen to you! 4 more infusions for me, now if only my open wound would heal because until then, I won't be able to have radiation....
Angie
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I'm glad I found this support group we have so many great information from everyone.
Angie - thanks for the sharing so I wouldn't worry about taxol as much as before. AC knocks my blood pressure so low sometime I even worried about it.
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Hi Angie,
I do not have any allergies and my first Taxol went uneventfully last week even though I got Herceptin before it. Yesterday when they started the infusion I had the same reaction you were having though a bit milder maybe. I just said I think I fill my piccline in my throat, because it did happened to me when they just set it in so they had to pull it out 1 cm, but the nurse just looked at me, stopped the drip and said: this is not piccline. People stormed in, my pressure went up and but all other tests were ok, they took oxigene test, I got more cortisone and they ran it slowly after 30 min. So here we are the two of us. Weekly Taxol has been manageble so far but last week I was drowsy for two days, in case it wil happen even this week it will start tomorrow. I had pulpitation and feeling nauseaus, we will see. I hope your wounds will heel until your radiation, no fun to delay the treatment. Hugs Cherry
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,Paulette, they say Taxol is rather easy chemo, of what I read so far it looks like AC is much tougher
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Teespoons, I always had the same problem and you mentioned you tried it all, but just a question: boiled beet roots? Or baked in the oven under foil? Works every time and they are delicious with goat cheese or feta. Dried prunes, dried apricots?
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Redeesides, I am exactly in the same situation, my boss and my former boss who is now my boss' boss know, two people at HR and two close friends who do nothave a clue how I feel and come with a keep-holding-up comments and other meaningless clich'e, I am just getting annoyed. The rest if people will know when I am ready, that's it. It is time to take care and love yourself. And frankly If someone will mention to me about the new boobs they will get a nasty, very nasty comment and a wish that they will get those too along with all other things that follow. I am speechless, just walk away from them, how immensely stupid and insensitive can someone be. I am truly sorry for those comments, please know that I wish you could keep your boobs and never experienced this, Hug Cherry
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Hi Cherry, I agree with you that people will know when they know. But my mom has unfortunately told EVERYONE she knows and even people she just met for the first time that her daughter has breast cancer. I have talked to her about it several times and asked her to please stop, but it's as if she has a compulsion to tell people. I think it has to do with her recently retiring and it gives her something to talk about. I know she means well, but this is MY personal, private health information and not hers. I haven't told very many people, just family and close friends and my boss and HR at work. There are others on my team at work who now know because they're doing my job while I'm on leave.
We went to a picnic at my parents house over the weekend and I had to tell my mom not to tell everyone at the picnic. I said I would tell them when I want to. Thankfully nobody asked me about it and I was able to enjoy myself without being bombarded with questions and advice andcomments.
Edited to add- I use the magnesium "calm" powder and it works better for me than prunes or colace. And it helps replace my low magnesium levels.
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Thanks so much guys for the tips. I called my Onc and he wants me to take protonix then Aleve. 2x. Per day. I'm going to continue stool softener and add smooth move. If no luck I'll add Miralax.
Saw a women at Oncologist with a t shirt that said " I apologize for anything I said after chemo". Cute.
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MakeupLover, I have another theory regarding your lump. What is your Ki67? Chemo is mostly effective when Ki67 is around 50% I red somewhere on these boards. Chemo hits dividing cells. And it does not get to whipe out after the first chemo, give it some time and just imagine how it is crushing the bad cells and they all die and disappear. I wish you complete pathological response. Cherry
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Hi ladies! I've been scarce here because I'm in Universal Studios with my family having a great time. It's the first time I've seen my parents since my diagnosis in May and I just fell in my dad's arms and cried like a baby. Seeing them has really given me a boost. My MO was fine with the trip as long as I'm smart - hand washing, taking it easy, no pools.
My hair is crew cut style and rapidly disappearing. I'm very uncomfortable too with my neighbors knowing , because I just don't want to be bothered with having to talk to them. Family and friends, yes, but not others. I just don't want any pity or those sad looks. I guess I don't want to be seen as a victim because I don't feel like one. I'm known as the health nut in the neighborhood - always out running or walking the dog and staying in shapeI'll deal with it as it comes.
I'm so sorry for those of you having bad SEs. Mine continues to be nausea, which I just try to eat through!
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VL22, I think this is common for all of us, this complex of suddenly becoming a sick person over a day and falling out from the healthy people asking ourselves what and how the .. did it happen?! Hence the victim feeling. But guess what you are not and this is not your job to keep others around to feel comfortable. Usually people mean well, even though they are avoiding you they are compassionate but this is not your obligation to feel grateful, not when they do not have a clue of how unfair all what happened to you is. Feel free to be that mean cancer lady, the anticipation of those looks kills me too but we have not done anything wrong and want to skip this attention and it must be acceptable and respected, so just feel free to look away when you do not want to socialize. I am very offensive/defensive today, feeling that everybody else who is not going through it cannot understand and should mind their business, lol
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