Diagnosed with IDC, DCIS, and ADH

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Maomaonie
Maomaonie Member Posts: 11
edited September 2017 in Just Diagnosed

I have three clusters of calcification and three biopsies. One is benign, biopsied 7 years ago. July this year found IDC and DCIS. Later July this year found ADH. The three clusters span 3.7 cm.

Is this common? Did your surgeons comment or express concern about ADH? Did your surgeons recommend remove all the ADH or just a part of the ADH?

Thanks.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited August 2017

    ADH, DCIS and IDC are just steps along the continuum of how abnormal the cells in the duct are, with ADH being the least abnormal. It isn't at all unusual to have an "alphabet soup" going on in your breast. I would think since the DCIS and IDC were found they will try to get all of the abnormal cells in your breast, but I'm not sure if they would do a reexcision for ADH or not

  • Shan43
    Shan43 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2017

    Just got diagnosed with DCIS and wanted to know if I could wait 5 months to get surgery to take out lump in my breast. I have not talked with a surgeon yet. I'm just new to all this.

    Thanks

  • Rrobin0200
    Rrobin0200 Member Posts: 433
    edited August 2017

    honestly, why wait? My PERSONAL opinion is to remove it, stat. Unless, of course, you have other medical issues that prevent you from having a LX/radiation or MX. Do you know the grade?

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited August 2017

    Shan, what would be your reasoning for wanting to wait? Insurance, other commitments? While pure DCIS could probably wait (by definition it isn't going anywhere yet), the tricky thing is that a biopsy can be done and come back DCIS, but when the mass is removed final pathology may determine that IDC is also present (sometimes only a microinvasion, sometimes more). There isn't really any way of being sure you have pure DCIS, until it is removed and pathology goes through the tissue. So if you wouldn't wait 5 months to remove IDC, then you might not want to wait to remove the DCIS. So, your reasoning could be pretty important. I'd go for the surgical consult and discuss with him/her.

  • Galway2017
    Galway2017 Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2017

    Greetings from Galway, Ireland. Thank you for letting me join this forum. I logged onto the Irish Cancer Society but there forum is quiet. I was diagnosed with Triple Negative, IDC in May17, had surgery within the recommended time frame of 6 weeks and will begin my chemo on 14th Aug17. My chemo regime is: AC 4 doses 2 weekly followed by Taxol weekly for 12 weeks. I would appreciate any feedback on the side effects of this combination of chemo. I have some friends also recovering from breast cancer but none of them have the triple negative. I have checked out wigs...not sure to purchase real hair or synthetic and have an app tomorrow. I think the synthetic is lighter and less work involved with having to blow dry it etc. Would appreciate any input, Many thanks. Galway2017

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited August 2017

    Hi Galway, welcome! There is a Triple Negative forum where you might find other women who have gone through the same regimen as you. The other place to look would be the chemo, before during and after.

  • Maomaonie
    Maomaonie Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2017

    MTwoman, I read your profile following your post. It looks like you had lumpecomy 15 years ago, and mastectomy of the same breast a year late. You have been doing really well. What made you decide to have mastectomy? It is a good decision.

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited September 2017

    well, actually I had a lx in December of 2002. I got a second opinion on my pathology as I felt 'lucky' with a pure dcis diagnosis, but didn't want anything to be missed as the first opinion was through a local hospital path dept. The second was from a dcis expert, who recommended an mri (my dcis architectural pattern frequently presents as multifocal/multicentric disease). I got that recommendation the day before my rads mapping appointment. Put rads on hold to fly off and get the mri (they didn't have anyone routinely reading breast mri in my city at that time). MRI found 2 more areas of concern in a different quadrant. So after the biopsies came back on both of those as dcis added to the fact that I had one very close margin from my lx, my bs recommended mx. The mx was in march of 2003, so not really a year; just a long several months. I am very glad that they found the additional areas of dcis before I had rads and walked away, potentially still with some bad cells intact. Just lucky I guess. :) But that's why I encourage people to get an mri before they make their final surgical decision. Best to have as much info as possible.

  • Maomaonie
    Maomaonie Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2017

    MTwoman,

    Thanks for sharing your story. I am so happy for you. Any tips in life style change, diet, etc. I am quite new. My lumpectomy was on Aug 10, this year and has one margin with ADH and ALH. I also have a biopsy clip missed in surgery, it is still in my breast. Radiation oncologist wants it to be removed before start radiation. Should I concern about the margine and the clip? Will MX worth for me?

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited September 2017

    I think that lifestyle changes that are sustainable are best, as well as ones that take your preferences and existing lifestyle into consideration. What I mean by that is, if you already engage in healthy exercise that you enjoy, that area doesn't necessarily need to be altered. If not, look into activities that would get you moving more and that you would enjoy. For example, swimming is good exercise, but some people don't have access or dont' swim. I like cross country skiing in the winter, but some people don't have snow :)

    Same thing for diet. Do you need to reduce your weight to be in the "low risk" BMI classification? Look at making sustainable changes that fit with what you already like. Do you like meat? or no. If you do, then you might want to consider reducing the red meat in your diet and reserving it for special occasions. If you don't, then it wouldn't feel like a sacrifice to reduce it even further (making sure you're still getting enough whole protein and amino acids). The best thing for getting your diet dialed in is to see a Registered Dietician; you may be able to get a referral at your treatment center (they may even have one there).

    But the biggest thing I would encourage you to do is look at stress management. Meditation, mindfulness, yoga, breath work or guided imagery can be extremely helpful for your mind and body. There is research (using functional mri) that demonstrated changes in the length of telomeres on the chromosomes of participants who practiced yoga on a regular basis for a certain time period and is being studied in improving the recovery of bc survivors.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28576734

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25367403 (full article available through this link)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23650531

    Making changes to reduce the typical stress in your day, and to enjoy each day to it's fullest are never wasted energy.

    As far as the clip and margin, I would trust your RO and his/her recommendations. If you have questions, talk to him/her again (or seek a second opinion if you don't trust his/her opinion).

    The lx vs mx question is a very personal one and I would not presume to advise you on that. There are many threads here where women list pros and cons as well as personal factors and their specific cell characteristics (or Oncotype testing) that help them decide. But ultimately, your decision needs to be one that you feel the best living with.

    ((hugs))

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