Starting Radiation August 2017

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Legomaster225
Legomaster225 Member Posts: 672

I could not find a thread started for August 2017 Rads so I thought I'd start one. I am going in for my simulation and mold on August 2 and will start the following week. Any other ladies joining me next month?

I am hoping a few pt treatments will reduce the cording in my arm enough that I can comfortably raise my arm again. I'm tired of having my baby T-Rex arms.

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  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    Hi! Thank you for starting this thread. I just had my last chemo two days ago. Yeah! I meet with my radiation oncologist on Tuesday. I have met with him at the time of my diagnosis. My MO said I can start radiation aug 7th. Not sure if that will be my start date. I will have more info on the 25rh.
  • Legomaster225
    Legomaster225 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2017

    Congrats on finishing the chemo!! So nice to be done with that

    I did preadjuvent chemo then my surgery - still recovering from that. My RO said this should be the easiest of the three treatments. My chemo wasn't so bad so I hope he is correct and didn't jinx me with that comment.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    It is nice to be done with chemo. I hope your RO is right too. I hope your PT USB going well. I never went to PT. I have pretty good range of motion. Again thank you for starting this thread.

  • Tappermom383
    Tappermom383 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2017

    Best of luck to you August ladies! I started on May 22 and finished on July 7. All in all, it wasn't bad at all. It did become a drag, driving nearly an hour each way every day (actually I rode as my DH took me). The positioning on the table each day actually takes longer than the treatment itself. The mapping took about 45 minutes; it was hard on my arms, keeping them above my head for that length of time. In fact, the therapists had to help me move them. But that wasn't a problem during the treatments as they are so quick.

    My biggest side effect was extreme fatigue, which I'm still feeling although to a slightly lesser degree. My RO told me to expect it to continue for 5-6 weeks post-treatment. My skin got red but I've had worse sunburns. I developed a bit of a rash, which was itchy, but hydrocortisone ointment took care of that. No blisters or peeling. The redness has faded, the rash is gone.

    Thirty-three treatments seemed like a lot but they were over before I knew it. I'll see my RO at the beginning of August. Just started on Arimidex this week.

    MJ

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    Thank you for sharing Tappermom38. I am worried about the mapping and holding the arms still for a long perod and the fatigue. I appreciate the positive and feel I can do this now. It is always scary starting a new treatment.

  • bareclaws
    bareclaws Member Posts: 345
    edited July 2017

    I have mapping next week, starting rads in about two weeks. Last Taxol was yesterday. I will continue with weekly Herceptin at least until end of this year. I had a BMX in March, with clear margins and clear nodes but due to three types of breast cancer involving both breasts, a "suspicious" but inaccessible lymph node behind the breast bone, large invasivetumor and compromised chemo at the beginning of treatment, I still get five weeks of rads. Bummer.

  • Legomaster225
    Legomaster225 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2017

    Both breasts Bearclaw? I'm still not sure if I'm doing one or both

  • bareclaws
    bareclaws Member Posts: 345
    edited July 2017

    Rads only on the left side. Right breast was DCIS only. Left was IDC and mucinous.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    I think I was told left breast and nodes.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    Do they use contrast when mapping? Like everyone I am just tired of needles even with a port.

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    Hi Annbee - No they don't use contrast for the mapping. I think I was there about 45 min and found it went pretty quickly. The only needles I had were the tiny dot tattoos they placed and that was also very quick and to me felt like a bug bite or mild bee sting at worst. I started June 21 and finished July 13 - 16 sessions total. I've posted on here earlier about using green tea to treat the area and I swear by it. A few others have posted as well using it with good results. It greatly pulls the heat out of the treated area and I will swear forever it saved my skin and made me only turn slightly pink throughout the entire process. If you're interested in that, search for green tea - I'm sure I posted it under the radiation threads somewhere. If you can't find it message me and I'll get the info to you.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    llamalady- thank you so much. That is a huge relief of no contrast. I will be able to handle the tattoo sting too now. I will check the threads for the great tea. Anything to help with the heat/burn.
  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    You're welcome Annbee! Anything that's helps with the process is so good for all of us when we're stuck walking down this road! If you don't find my green tea post, please just let me know and I'll be happy to post the info here for you. I can't express enough how much difference it made in my skin. My RO was amazed when she saw me do it and watched my skin turn back to it's normal color right in front of her eyes, not to mention how "hot" the cotton pads were that I had "bathed" my radiated area in because they pulled the heat right out of my chest/breast area. It was just wild to see it. Plus it's cheap and easy to do!!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited July 2017

    llamalady,

    My rad dri run is this Friday.

    If it is not too much trouble, can I ask you for your green tea routine here?


    Thank you.

    Mimi

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    Annbee - Here it is. I went back and found it. I'm editing it a little since I've now completed rads. When I wrote the original post I had only done 10 treatments. So here goes my edited protocol.

    I "bathed" my breast/chest/armpit area in green tea 3x a day. I know it sounds nuts but I can't begin to tell you how well this worked for me. Here's what I did:

    On Sunday I boil water and add it to two green tea bags in coffee mug. I only use about 5 ounces of water - keep it strong. Steep it a good 30 minutes or longer - squeeze out the bags and put the tea in a jar in the refrigerator. On Sunday night I take 5 small zip locks and put 3 cotton squares/pad into each baggie. I use those instead of cotton balls because they are larger and swab the area easier. Then each day just before I leave for treatment I take one zip lock and pour some of the tea into the baggie - enough to thoroughly wet the cotton and take it with me to treatment. As soon as I finish treatment and get to dressing room I rub the entire breast with the cotton, the arm pit area and chest up to collar bone - be sure to get under the breast too. I repeat this w/ the 2nd cotton square, then the 3rd cotton square. I bend at the waist and fan myself dry then dress and leave. My treatments were generally about 11:30 so I did this at home first thing in the morning, then immediately after radiation right there in the dressing room, and the again late in the day. I think all 3 times are very important, but using the tea as soon as you get off the rads table I believe is the most important treatment of the 3. I also treated on the weekends as well.

    My Rad Onc got to see me do this and she was blown away. The cotton squares are truly hot to the touch when you finish from pulling out the heat from your skin. Also she was shocked to watch the redness from the skin disappear in front of her eyes. I certainly knew the cotton was hot but I had not noticed the redness leave - just knew I wasn't getting red. So I watched myself in the mirror in the dressing room and I couldn't believe it when I saw it. My skin changed back to its original color right in front of my eyes as I bathed with the tea soaked cotton. I didn't notice the cotton getting how until about 5 treatments in and suddenly with each treatment the cotton got hotter and hotter right in my hands. It was unreal.

    I make a fresh cup of the tea to use every other day so that it stays fresh and strong. Just thought I'd pass this on in case you or anyone else was interested in giving it a try. I asked my Rad Onc about it before starting treatment and she said she didn't know if it would help but it couldn't hurt. She now is a believer in green tea!

    The only other treatment I used was at bed time I would massage in a generous amount of Emu Oil for skin hydration. So that and the green tea were all I used. I believe the emu oil was very helpful as well in keeping the skin from drying out. My RO okayed that too.

    My final update to this post is now that I have totally finished the radiation I can report that I only experienced pinkness by the end. Definitely not red or what I would call burned at all. I'm now 10 days post radiation and I had no sores, peeling, redness. Just the mild pinkness. I wore a bra the entire time with no issues at all. I did stick w/ a cotton bra and no underwire b/c I felt like that would be more gentle against my skin. Also I stayed out of the sun and if I did go out to garden or anything like that I applied sunscreen even though I had on a bra and crew neck t-shirt. I didn't go out in tanks or V-necks. I kept up to the collar bone covered at all times outside. I also would rinse off in the shower if I got sweaty and tried not to be in the heat too long.

    Hope some of this helps. I wish you the best of luck!!! Let me know if you have any questions. Cindy

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    Hi Mimi - just posted my updated version of green tea since I'm now finished. If I can help any of you, answer any questions, since you're all starting please just let me know and I'll do my best. I so much want everyone to have as easy a time as possible with this. I don't know if what I did will work for everyone, but it certainly won't hurt and I'm convinced it helped me tremendously. Cindy

  • bareclaws
    bareclaws Member Posts: 345
    edited July 2017

    My RO recommends green tea as a spray, 4 x a day. Twotea bags per 1/4 cup boiling water, steeped for at least one hour.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    cindy and bare claws - thank you again! I am going to try the tea bag

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited July 2017

    Cindy, bare claws, annbee-- thanks for sharing green tea tips! I won't have rads for a while as I still have surgery to get thru in September but REALLY appreciate you all for sharing so much which helps those of us farther down this c path

    Thank you!!!!!

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    I'm so excited you're all going to try it. I truly wish you all the best of luck and an easy time of it!!!! I'm 10 days out from finishing and I just showed my husband - you can't tell from my skin that I had any treatments! I would say be very consistent with it and be very generous when you "bathing" yourself off. Take your time and just keep gently washing the area with the cotton soaked in the tea.

    One other thing I thought of last night is the lights from the rads machine. I can get a migraine from very bright lights or beams of lights so I carried a thick, dark in color, wash cloth with me every day and folded it and placed it over my eyes. That stopped any light from getting through and causing me any migraine issues. So I throw that out there for any of you that might be light sensitive or prone to migraines.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    Thanks llamalady for the tips. Keep them coming. I told my husband about the green tea and definitely going to use it. My mapping is tomorrow afternoon. Will be happy to have that done. I feel better about now knowing it is a no contrast appoinment.

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    You're so welcome Annbee!! Put a box of green tea bags on your grocery list :-) It's funny, until all this I had forgotten one of my grandmothers used to wet a regular lipton tea bag and would put it on me as a child if I got stung by a bee or a jelly fish and it really helped!! She knew something way back then! Of course the green tea is even better because of all the antioxidants.

    You may want to add the emu oil to your list and massage a good amount right at bed time into the entire area. It's a great oil and really moisturizes to keep the skin from drying out but it's not a heavy oil - rubs in very nicely. I ordered mine from Amazon. It's called Australian Emu Oil by Dr. Adorable Triple Refined Organic 100% Pure 8oz. It was a little pricey at 27.00 but it's 100%pure and is organic. Plus I've been using it every night now since approx. June 19 and still have about 1/2 bottle left and am still using it every night at bed for extra skin conditioning. So overall I think it was well worth the $$$ plus it feels really good and I believe it had to help. My RO was a big fan of emu oil. Just remember - no oils or lotions a few hours before your treatments or it can burn. But you're safe to use the emu oil generously at bedtime.

    So I guess overall a box of green tea bags and one bottle of emu oil was not to pricey in the long haul :-)

    Best of luck tomorrow - you'll do just fine. Try to relax and remember it's fairly quick and no pain involved - just basically lying there w/ your arms over your head. I chatted the whole time w/ my team and that made it go by fast. Try to look at it as one step closer to getting this part over with! Crazy as it sounds I sort of approached radiation w/ excitement in that the sooner I got started to sooner it would over!

    Post tomorrow to let us know how it all went. I know you'll do great!!!!

  • mesaaz
    mesaaz Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2017

    I just had my last chemo last week. Hurray!! Should be meeting with my RO shortly and hopefully this will be over in early Sept. Definitely will try the green tea, so easy. I am under the impression we aren't supposed to put anything on our skin prior to the rad treatment...did you run into any problems?

  • ShockedAt48
    ShockedAt48 Member Posts: 138
    edited July 2017

    I just had my consultation with my oncologist radiology doctor this morning. Didn't really care for him but oh well. He made me feel stupid for asking questions. My other doctors seemed to welcome questions. He was having an intern in the room, perhaps he felt I was questioning him in front of the intern. I am going to receive 3 weeks @ 15 treatments which is the accelerated whole breast program. I asked about the boost and he said it was not necessary since my margins were clear. I thought the boost to the tumor bed was standard treatment? Is anyone having their treatments in a prone position vs. supine? He said that I would be on my back. I had researched that the treatment is more effective and less side effects on your stomach for large breasted women (C cup or over). He told me that there would be minor skin irritation and virtually no fatigue. This is different than what I see being posted online. I am mostly concerned with my skin since I have large breasts and I have heard that there may be more side effects. I go in tomorrow to have my CAT scan, tattoo, and measurements done. They will call me to set up my radiation schedule soon. A lot of people are talking about a simulation and molds? They did not mention that at all. They said I would be measured (CAT scan) and the computer would calculate my treatment plan. Can't wait for this to be done to go back to my so-called normal life!

  • Tappermom383
    Tappermom383 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2017

    Each center is different, shocked, but my mold was done at the time of my mapping (CT scan). It was like a plastic pillow - they sucked the air out of it to mold to my head and shoulders. That way, I was in the same position every day. My center had me come back after the medical physicist did all the calculations for a simulation - a dry run of the treatment with no radiation.

    I hope you don't have skin irritation or fatigue ; each of us is so different. If the RO doesn't give you suggestions as to what lotions and creams to put on, look back at some of the other radiation threads. There are lots of great suggestions.

    Three weeks seems like a long time but it will pass before you know it (mine was traditional and seven weeks). BTW - I lay on my back.

    Good luck to you.

    MJ

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2017

    I just got back from my radiation appointment. I met with my RO and then had my mapping done. I haven't seen my RO since January and I forgot his nice he was and he was very patient with me.
    Llamalady you were right about everything. Thank you!!! I start radiation on the 7th (my first day back to work for me too) and it will be 6 weeks plus a few days. I feel like I can do this.
  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    Mesaaz - So happy for you that you're finished w/ chemo!! I applied the green tea approx. 3 hours before my treatment. I did NOT apply any lotions, creams, oils before treatment. My dr. said that was ok. She didn't want any oils/cream/lotions used because she said that could accelerate burning. So I only used the green tea before treatment and again that was about 3 hours before my appointment. Of course I did the tea bathing immediately following my treatment then again at the end of the day. I applied emu oil generously at bed time. I did not burn at all - turned a little pink towards the end and stayed pink for about 4 days after treatment ended.

    ShockedAt48 - I also did the accelerated radiation. I had 16 treatments of whole breast - no boost. My RO said boosts were not necessary with all clear margins and no node involvement. I was lying on my back for the treatments. I'm a D cup. Scroll back up and read my green tea regimen that I used as well as the emu oil at night. I had no real skin issues just some minor pink that started the last week and never got worse. I also experienced no fatigue at all. And with only 15 treatments it goes by quickly. Seems like about the time you get started good you're on the countdown to finishing. I went for mapping/tattoo and that is when they also made my mold for my arms. I then had a 2nd appt. a week later for the simulation. That was where they just get you positioned on the table and make sure everything lines up. It took just a few short minutes for that. That day they also gave me my radiation schedule and I started treatment the next day.

  • Gdeann
    Gdeann Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2017

    I meet tomorrow with the radiation oncologist and will have a CT scan. Hopefully, by the end of the visit, I will have an idea of when I'll start radiation. I'm almost positive it will be in August.

    Kinda nervous, I just had my lumpectomy on the 14th and I'm still tender. Do you think it would be okay to take a Tylenol or two beforehand?

    About how many weeks after a lumpectomy do they usually start radiation? It seems like I remember reading 4 weeks.

    Thank you for the green tea suggestion! Adding it to my shopping list asap!

  • llamalady
    llamalady Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2017

    Hi Gdeann - My docs said 4 weeks after surgery before starting radiation so I'm sure you're right that you likely won't start until early August. I actually took Tylenol before my mapping b/c I was scared of the tattoo :-) I didn't need it though, the tattoos didn't hurt - just a quick prick or sting feeling - gone almost as fast as you feel it. Also the tattooing wasn't anywhere near my incision/scar. They didn't do any pushing or probing on my breast for mapping/CT just some light drawing w/ a marker but I barely felt that. I would tell them up front that your still tender and I'm sure they'll be careful.

    If they haven't talked to you yet about scheduling times, be thinking about what times of day would be most convenient to you. They try to accommodate that as best they can. Best of luck to you tomorrow!!

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited July 2017

    Count me in. My simulation is scheduked for 8/1.

    Hi there Lego and Shocked from June Surgery :)

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