Anyone make/modify/refashion clothes? fat/flat/post-surgery
Hello all,
Still working through this. I'm just over a month post-op.
My stomach still seems to change sizes, nothing old fits well and I'm not familiar enough with new things to know for sure. My upper arms also seem swollen - I'm seeing someone for lymphedema soon I hope. And with BMX my chest is sunken. And I was overweight to begin with.
I found a size small top that actually fit, and a few mediums. But some extra larges are too tight in the arms and/of stomach. All depends on cut. If anything exists that would fit and look good, I probably couldn't afford it anyway.
But I've gotten some thrifted stuff, read what few articles I've found on dressing this sort of body, scoured Pinterest, been given a couple large bags of clothing, and am in the process of going through everything I own (which is a lot, since I've gained/lost in the past, I tend to save things in case they fit again).
So now I'm thinking of sewing for myself. Tunics with skinny jeans, or maxi dresses with layers seem my best bet. I'm actually looking at using skirts attached to a bodice made from t-shirt, men's shirt, or tank to get the basis for these, and am modifying some XL shirts that fit otherwise. I'm also thinking of making some cowl or scarf-like neck things to help disguise the flatness, and trying to figure out how to cover the rather swollen upper arms.
I'm willing to share whatever I learn, but this is new to me, and I could really, REALLY use help or guidance at the same time, if anyone is already doing this.
Thanks!!
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Not dealing with this personally (LX), but I sew and participate in a sewing board where a number of the women sew "lagenlook" clothing. Can be kind of expensive on a retail basis, and don't know your style, but that might be something to take a look at, to see if it appeaals to you.
At any rate, here's a link to the "lagenlook thread" on that sewing board, in case you want to take a look.
HTH,
LisaAlissa
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@LisaAlissa - Thank you!
I've never heard that term, but I googled it and read an explanation, and googled images. Quite a few of them I really like.
Those do seem to be the appropriate styles. And it's funny, my personal "what I like" has tended that way for a couple of years, but I had nothing like that, can NO WAY afford to buy the very pretty ones I see for sale, and doubted my ability to pull it together. (I'm talking about what might be called "boho" styles that were most of what popped up, though I also love the kind of country-ish ones, and what I'm actually considering making is much simpler and a little sleeker.) But it's pretty much all good.
I think I'd get funny looks at Church, but I'm not going to be able to pull off the sleek styles I usually see there. (It's an ethnic Church) They will love me anyway.
If I can manage it, it will probably be an asset at work, at least as long as it remains in style. My only other concern regarding wearing is comfort - I live in Florida and these look mostly very warm.
I didn't think of asking on a sewing forum, but I guess that's the most reasonable thing. Except I read a page or so, the ladies there are so much more knowledgeable, I don't know if I'd fit in. My questions might be a little too elementary too. But I'm definitely interested in that discussion, thank you. I might get braveenough to participate.
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Definitely participate! It's a very friendly board. The women there are discussing wardrobing and putting styles together on that thread, as well as discussing their plans & showing what they've done. Individual projects in process generally get discussed elsewhere--and they love helping people who have questions about their projects-in-process.
If you don't want to read that entire lagenlook thread, I'd just scroll through and look at all the pictures. You can always go back and read later if you like. At this point, you're just getting an intro to a different style sensibility. If there's something you'd like to recreate, you can get suggestions for patterns there, as well as comments on proposed styles/patterns.
HTH,
LisaAlissa
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there is a great blog for dressing breastless. I searched leavemebreastless
Great for ideas. Hope this helps 😄
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Hi itfinallyhitme,
I am sorry you are here. I hope your recovery is going ok.
I had a unilateral mastectomy and lopsidedness has been a constant part of the journey for me. I have found scarves to be my very best friends for camouflaging the area and adding interest to my outfits. Obviously you would not want the heavy winter ones in Florida, but light chiffon or lacey ones. Also, crocheted ribbon necklaces? I cut the bottom off one of my knit maxi dresses and it is a cute infinity scarf now.
My other best dressing option is a cardigan over a sleeveless top. I feel it keeps the eye moving and less likely to settle and stare at my chest.
Another member here once posted a cheap vest on amazon that is her go-to wardrobe essential. A stretchy lightweight long flowy thing. Like the long open cardigans that are popular but without sleeves. I have a couple very lightweight crochet-look sweater vests. You could try converting tops that don't fit into vests maybe? Or cardigans?
It is interesting (and a bit frustrating) trying to find a new style for our new shape. I have lost 40 pounds and am still losing weight so my clothes aren't fitting well either. And my remaining breast keeps shrinking so the lopsidedness continues.
I have always had unusually big arms (fat, not long) for my proportions, always needed an XL when my torso fits a medium so I understand the swollen arms challenge. This is also why I like the cardie over shell system. Easier to find or make a sleeveless top and use a few basic cardigansover them.
I am taking in my pants and skirts and dreaming up modifications to clothes too. Would love to see what kinds of designs you come up with! Please do share.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I've collected a ton of images on Pinterest (I'll post my link) but some are just for the sleeve, or the neck, or whatever. Some I post comments, notes, most I don't. I'm just gathering ideas and thinking, but I've got some clothes to start modifying and I'll have to get started.
I appreciate replies and will be happy to share. It might go a little slow, because I think I'm also developing lymphedema, and I can't get in for another month (it's been going on for two weeks already) and so I'm going to have to devote a certain amount of time to trying to deal with that too.
I've actually discovered a few pieces, I'm SO GLAD I grabbed a crocheted long vest-like thing that's just two front tails, really. And sleeveless tunics are great. But I've long disliked wearing sleeveless because of big upper arms, and over the past year they've just gotten bigger, and now the LE swelling, ugh! So I need a layer under or over that provides some kind of sleeve coverage.
My head is spinning, but I'm working on it. And yesterday when I tried on pants, my belly was smaller! But then it seems to have swelled again. I look pregnant and breastless. I'm starting to worry that something is actually wrong with the belly swelling coming and going a bit ...
Anyway my Pinterest board (used to be various breast cancer resources, but now has hundreds of clothing and accessory pins) is here ... http//www.pinterest.com/AHomesteadHeart/survivor/
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I was wondering how you are learning to live with your fashion, have you modified any clothing. I had a single mastectomy end of April. First everything was just uncomfortable, so I was going with 2X tops with some neck gathering in bright patterns to hide the flat side somewhat. I've figured I will not make myself uncomfortable with the cami and puff, just to make others feel less uncomfortable seeing a flat side and actually I don't think very many people have really noticed, at stores and such places. At this time I don't think I'm interested in a fake boob. As the 2X are a little large on my shoulders and arms, I'm 5 ft tall and size XL, I want to take the shoulder seams apart and gather the fabric there. Have not tried that yet, and was wondering if anyone had and if they liked the results. My colors used to be pastel prints and I'm actually enjoying wearing brighter colors now.
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I've done a little but not much yet. I ended up with lymphedema in both (upper) arms, trunk, and especially one shoulder/upper chest area. It makes it ridiculously hard to find clothes to fit and look decent in.
I live in Florida and it's summer so I wore a scarf only once or twice. I'll plan on fall/winter.
I wear mostly loose, sleeveless (ugh!) tunics over leggings or capris around the house or going to physical therapy. When I go to Church or somewhere I want to look better, I prefer a butterfly-style tunic that is long, flowy, and loose with large armholes and open sleeves. (I'm still having my arm wrapped so it's very bulky and needs big armholes.)
Based on what I like (swollen trunk means I don't want anything fitted on top) I'm working on some refashioning into tops similar to the ones I found that I like. I bought some patterns too, but not started sewing since the LE is slowing everything down. But I'm finding non-fitted skirts make cool tunics when attached to a yoke-area from another shirt (I'm liking t-shirts or men's dress shirts) and I recently saw an idea of using fabric in a scarf-like gather to make the yoke-front. I'm planning to try some ruffles across the bodice tops for camouflage too. If I wasn't swollen in the shoulder and able to do off-the-shoulder (dog ears might be an issue too) then I'd have even more flexibility.
I've given myself sort of a crash-course in body type dressing (at least for my own body) so I'm wanting to change everything. I was dressing all wrong anyway. Fortunately a lot of my clothes are suitable for re-makes and Goodwill just had a super-cheap sale where I just concentrated on fabrics - cotton voile, silks, etc. I wish I'd found white because I have designs I want to add but no luck there. I find I'm gravitating to jewel-tones, especially purple, turquoise, fuschia.
If I could get the LE under control and didn't have this belly, I could have fun dressing.
Kind of discouraging that I exercise a couple of hours most days, don't overeat, and still don't lose any weight. :P
Because of the swelling, the shoulders are not so big on me as they probably would be (I'm 5' tall too) but the necks are often HUGE. Somd I'm thinking of how to modify (especially if they have a decorative yoke) but so far I just wear a camisole and sometimes attach a "modesty panel". I had to do that sometimes before mastectomy. My scar shows in all my nightgowns/pajamas, etc.
I don't think people in general notice me being flat much or if they do I'm just oblivious. They often ask about my arm being wrapped. The only one who commented was actually a friend and she seemed rather bothered that I'm not wearing any prosthesis. I tried on the knitted knockers once but didn't wear them. The bra threatened to ride up to my chin lol. I might consider a prosthesis for a very special occasion, and I don't know how to handle a bathing suit around others, but so far I just get dressed and go. I am enjoying not needing a bra. A wear a cami if my shirt is sheer, but if it's not too low-cut and not see-through, sometimes I just wear the shirt. That part is very freeing
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Yes, I have made a few things for myself. So far just a top and a dress. Things fit very differently with no boobs, even on me, who had modest boobage. I am still experimenting with clothing although it has been almost 6 years since the chop-job. I do also wear mini-foobs a lot of the time. Again after experimenting, I settled for silicon bra liners in a yoga top. I can't wear bras with a band, because of mild lymphedema issues and I have no desire to lug around large chunks of silicone, but a yoga top with small inserts actually feels good because it provides a bit of pressure. The tiny bump of the inserts helps fitted clothes to hang right. I also have a couple of summer dresses where I have tacked in bra shields, the large, stiff kind that comes with coobie bras. It works just fine.
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oh, wow, thank you. That actually helps me a lot.
My surgery was only just over 2 months ago, and I guess I haven't figured out much. I have lymphedema issues too (more part if my trunk than my arms) so maybe keeping 2 drawers full of bras is pointless. I thought they might work someday with foobs. But I hadn't thought about lymphedema. My CLT has just started to mention compression shirts - I'm having to do a little at a time and we've only ordered for one arm so far (and not everything for that). Maybe I should forget the bras.
I was between a D and DD, depending on who made it, so going from that to sunken means NONE of my clothes fit well, except one tunic given to me that didn't fit before. I started reworking my clothes, but then had to have my arm wrapped so I stopped, since I couldn't try things on to know how they will fit when I'm not wrapping, and hopefully this part won't last long enough to need to dress it (beyond 3 shirts I found at the thrift store 3/$9.99 that were perfect - SO thankful for that!).
So I'm kind of in a holding pattern till I know what will happen with the LE. I was feeling bad for not having more sorted out, but for less than 3 months post-op I guess I'm not doing too bad.
I might look for some yoga shirts. I'd not heard of them. And I guess I'll go ahead and pack up my bras, and consider getting rid of them. The LE is worst just above my scar line so bras are probably a bad idea.
Thanks again
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itfinallyhit, yeah, you are doing great. Chill and take your time. Job 1 right now is taking care of the lymphedema.
Keep the bras for now. You won't know for a while, how all this will shake out. My lymphedema is minimal, but for some reason a bra-band irritates it almost immediately.
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I found this on the pinterest board and wondered if you figured out how to make it? I looks comfy and fashionable. I am very fashion oriented and a creative person.
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It looks to me like one with the sides drawn far out in a rectangular add-on shape like this. The sleeves also appear to be large rectangle shapes, sewn into a tube. It is possible to add the fabric to a close-fitting shirt to make the hem look like this. The sleeves can be modified too but since the atmhole size would need to be changed that's a lot more tricky (to me). And if looks like a tank below. I don't like sewn-together layered shirts like that - I prefer to layer them myself when putting them on
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btw, if a person has a flat chest, a Buddha belly, and reasonably nice legs, a shirt rather like this looks good as long as it's cut long enough to cover the belly, and works with leggings or close-cut pants (NO flared pant leg!). It also works in the same way with a very fitted skirt like a pencil skirt, or a slightly flared trumpet. It does NOT work with a-line skirts, which all of mine were, unless you want to look fat all over. And the fabric of the tunicmust drape well, being neither stiff nor clingy.
(Maybe you already know all this, just tossing it out there for anyone who might like to know.
I'm learning. Slowly.
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Here is a vogue pattern, 8913. What do you think? More of a dolman sleeve.... thoughts....
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Dolman sleeves are great for large upper arms when the lower arm looks good. As for me personally, I wouldn't go with a fitted sleeve of any kind because I have to wrap for lymphedema, but not everyone has that problem. Except for that, I love dolman sleeves. Though just SLIGHTLY longer than these are more flattering for most people. 3/4 or so usually looks great. Just under the elbow sometimes doesn't
The front of the tunic is good if you have a flat belly. Honestly, I'm finding that dressing without breasts if you are thin is not difficult at all, and many current trends are MADE for such a body. Dressing without breasts if you aren't thin is much more difficult. Tunics work, but they need to be not so straight cut, close fitting, and high hemmed on the front. (The brown tunic you posted above is also too high in the hem for a big belly, but if lengthened in the front as well is good.)
Many tunics I see are long in the back, short in the front. That doesn't suit my body at all - best for very thin people who want to show off a flat belly and hide a flat derrière. Myself, I look for even hems, or else low in the front (must fall below my belly) but it can be higher in the back for me. I just have to be sure the bottoms aren't too tight if the back hen is too high.
Not sure what kind of opinion you were looking for, but that's what cones to mind to me.
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Finally, yes and no. I am thin. Got that way during treatment and have stayed that way. I like being thin, so I am not complaining or nuttin', but each body type comes with its own issues. Baggy things tend to make me look skeletal, and not in a good way. My ribs are very prominent, without boobs to cover them up. I keep meaning to make a dressmaker's dummy to my current measurements. so I can experiment with how to add some volume in the right places, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Real life keeps interfering
I keep thinking that there has to be a way to make clothes for our new bodies that works WITH the new configuration, but have yet to hit on the right solutions.
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No. I found some bras in Walmart for 10.00 that have silicone things in them you can take out, which I did and chucked them and then I bought knitted knackers to fit in. Comfortable and attractive.
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I would love to see anyone's sewing work, as I am a very creative person and just love handmade//reworked items. So, if you have things you have redone or made, would you please post them? I am a jewelry designer with some sewing skills.
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hi Momime,
Please forgive me, I didn't mean to make less of your problems either. It seems we all have major body changes to deal with and learn to accept in ourselves.
I would think drapey fabrics would be your friend as well? Something not too closely fitted? A lot of the tricks that disguise no-breasts might help in the case of your ribs being too thin as well - cowl necks and such? Maybe a light scarf tied in different ways?Just as with my body type, I'm sure cooler weather will be easier!
I haven't done any studying on a thin frame, just wished mine was more so. If I wear the wrong thing, my chest is sunken and I seem to have a ridiculous belly. The lymphedema doesn't help - arms are too big and torso is lopsided. But we all have challenges, surely!
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Finally, no worries, absolutely no offense taken. I know the famous post-MX "buddha belly" is difficult for many. I was only trying to say that on any body, it is quite a big change and comes with various challenges.
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Momine, I am also thin (105, 5'7"). However, I have the Buddha belly, because of fibroids. I would probably have it anyway, but it's excentuated due to being flat. I like tank tops during the summer and flows bohemian off the shoulder tops.
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Hsant, I had one too, which I had ever since my daughter was born by C-section. I had a bad infection after the C-section, and I often had abdominal pain, as well as a bulging belly. Whenever I complained to doctors, I would get told that it was normal to have a belly after having a kid.
Fast forward to cancer, and we decided to do a hysterectomy, to get rid of the ovaries and fibroids in my uterus. When the surgeon went in, he found all kinds of scar tissue (from the infection) and discovered that my uterus was glued to my bladder, which in turn was glued to my abdominal wall. He cleaned it all up, and that got rid of the bulge, as well as constant pain and discomfort.
Anyway, just to say that for me at least, getting the fibroids dealt with turned out to have pleasant side effects. My belly is still hideous, due to excess skin and stretch marks, but the bulge is gone.
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