Is anyone working full time still, after met diagnosis?
I'm still working full time after my diagnosis. My oncologist seems to think the answer is going on SSD. I get my primary insurance through my employer, and it's better than my husband's insurance, so I don't want to lose it. Also, the financial hit that I would take by not working and only collecting SS, which is about 1/3 what I make working, would be very hard to deal with.
Is anyone else in this boat? What options do I have?
Overall, I love working most days, but those other days...the joint pain, the fatigue, the overall aches. I'm having a hard time dealing.
Days like today, I feel like I'm going to have a nervous breakdown or major panic attack.
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Hi talpha- I was dx'd Stage IV a few months ago and continue to work full-time. Like you I have the better insurance and frankly can't afford to stop working. I'm not currently on any treatment but am struggling with a great deal of fatigue lately (not exactly sure why), so some days are pretty tough. I plan to work as long as humanly possible, and we're doing as much financial planning now as we're able. If I had the financial means I might consider quitting, but it helps me feel "normal" to go to work, and I really do enjoy my job. I hope you find a solution that works best for you, and doesn't make your days more difficult and stressful
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Raising my hand for working full time. Have been since diagnosis 4+ years ago. I intend to keep on for a while longer. My insurance is the cat's meow -- I have no interest in losing it.
I love my job and I have a VERY supportive work environment. If I need a day off they tell me to stay home. To be fair, I can do a lot of my job from my couch with a laptop and headphones [to call into meetings]. Your experience may vary.
Can you make one of those sorts arrangements with your workplace?
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I also work full time at a demanding job since mets dx 2.5 years ago. I was diagnosed while pregnant and my baby was in the NICU for nearly a month due to having him early. The NICU doctor looked like he saw a ghost when we mentioned I would be going back to work after maternity leave. My job contributes the insurance for our family. Also, I like feeling normal and spending large amounts of time focusing on something besides BC. I worry I would slip into a major depression if I stopped working and feel like the end is near. I may change my mind at some point but feel I am doing what is right for me right now.
It is definitely your decision and not your doctor's decision!!! Do what you want to do and reassess as needed as time passes and circumstances change.
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I have made it seven years working full time. Just now, it is time to stop, but not because I can't work anymore.... I just can't work as much or be as available to my clients as they need. It is ethically time to step away from working on mission critical systems.
I would hold off on leaving work if you feel you can do it and the cost/benefits are in favor of staying. There is no reason to make a drastic decision. But, there is nothing wrong with determining that working full time is no longer in your best interests. I spent those 7 years saving as much money as possible so I have money to pay for health insurance for those two years before government benefits kick in [assuming there are any anymore.]
It was not always easy, of course. We may have eaten a few more restaurant meals to help out. But I love my work and my clients, and loosing that part of myself isn't easy.
*susan*
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I work full time as a nurse. I was able to take short term disability from my job for 6 months when I was first diagnosed. After that, back to work I went. I make the majority of the money for our household even though my husband also works full time. My health insurance is excellent. I enjoy working and the majority of my friends are at work. So for now I keep going. I do have the option of another period of short term then long term disability when it is needed. Some days it is very hard but I have very supportive coworkers. It is a very individual decision.
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This has been a major conundrum for me following diagnosis. I am in Canada and have good short and long term disability options. I have no dependents and am not rich but comfortable. So should I work or go on LTD?
When I was first diagnosed I took time off but quickly decided that I hated being at home doing nothing. There is only so much time you can spend on BCO and playing Candy Crush! Now I am back full time and for the most part I love it. However, there is that little voice in my head that lets me know that I am having trouble keeping up now and wonders if this is the right path. No easy answers I'm afraid.
LTD is still an option if I need it but, for now, I am happy to keep trying to be normal.
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Hi, after my cancer migrated to my bone marrow last fall, I went on my company's short term disability plan and after 6 months moved to long term disability. Do you have either of these benefits available through your employer? I did a buy-up for my LTD and will be able to access my employer's group medical, dental and vision plans for 24 months. I applied for Social Security Disability as soon as I transitioned to LTD, and Medicare will be available to me in 24 months so I won't have a break in benefits. Yes, I'll have to find a secondary insurance and make sure I pick the best Rx plan for me.
I agree this is a highly personal decision. It works for me because I wanted to decrease as much stress as possible and feel that taking care of myself is my full time job.
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I was diagnosed stage IV de novo at age 41 6 months ago and will continue to work through the end of this year when I can medically retire. Once that is approved, I'll keep my insurance, get retirement, apply for ssi disability and retire with my husband to our mountain cabin. My new job will be tending to the greenhouse and enjoying the view.
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Whoa, awesome llimae! Sound like you are dialed. I too carry great insurance for me and my DH plus the financial hit would hurt a lot. So I continue working full time. Luckily I get 6 weeks off in the summer so I can regroup and take care of little things, indulge my hobbies. Some days I yearn to just tinker around the house and be free to walk in nature or whatever. But I feel I too would get too isolated and depressed, miss the social connection. So I keep on for now. I just hope I have time to finally quit and still have some energy to do some enjoyable things.
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My work is really supportive, but I'm out of sick time and taking 1/2 pay for sick time (we get an additional 800 hours at 1/2 pay after exhausting sick leave). I feel great some days, others, like yesterday, I can barely make it to lunch. My income is 25% higher than my DH, so the hit to income alone would be hard, but my insurance is much better and paid at 100% for both myself and my husband. I think I might be able to "medically retire" and collect my pension after about 2 more years of service.
I didn't work for my first go round with breast cancer. I was so depressed and bored. I'm an introvert, but my life needs purpose. I need the social interaction and purpose of a job to get up each day.
I hope I can make it for two more years. The chronic fatigue and overall exhaustion is starting to take its toll.
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talpha1, not sure if you have explored a medical option to treat fatigue but Wellbutrin and Provigil work wonders for this purpose. It helps tremendously with general, day to day, constant fatigue that makes work hard. Wellbutrin is much cheaper and easier to clear through insurance. I have taken both and am currently on Wellbutrin (a high dose version called Forfivo). As an added bonus, it helps with weight loss and increases sex drive depleted by all these cancer treatments.
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I have worked full time since diagnosed Stage IV 10 years ago. I am now working solely from home and don't think I could do it otherwise. It is a great relief financially but also helps to keep me distracted.
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Save for a 3 1/2 month medical leave, I have worked full time since dx, which was almost 6 years ago. There are many factors to consider, so our decisions are unique to each of us. While I need the income and medical insurance (I am a sole supporter), I love my job and it gives me great purpose and a feeling of connectedness to colleagues and community. I feel as if I am making a positive contribution to society. Yes, I am tired at the end of the day, but it's worth it. I imagine that when the time comes to quit, I will know it, but I'm not at that point...yet
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Hi Talpha,
As much as this is a personal decision, work at the end of the day is for money. Health is more important. If you are willing to give up some luxury, why not?
Some do have to work.. and they don't even have the luxury to ask this question even.
Your body is at war and need all focus and energy possibly can devote to that.. well that's something money can't buy.
On the other hand, some sisters say working distract them and they feel normal- ok..
for me, I have accepted my reality, closed down my business right after dx and live each sec enjoying and ignoring all possible stress.. also have kicked out toxic people out of my life..
my cancerland environment is still managable this way. I have new hobbies, new friends.. consider it maybe?
As for panic attack, it's most normal. Each one of us need a psychiatrist, which I have one, and use regular mood & anxiety pills. I even have them adjusted to each new therapy..
I have an oncology psychiatrist, oncology dietician, pulmonologist, cardiologist and pain doc on my team of docs. You can't expect your MO&RO to deal with all .
It took 5 years experience to have come to this point. Glad to be sharing with you. Hope you find your ideal pace in this new normal soon
Hug.
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Count me as one of those who works fulltime. I work in health care and my physician colleagues have been great. I take off every three weeks on a friday afternoon so as to receive the Herceptin infusions. I work for myriad reasons. I enjoy my job. I have great health insurance which covers my husband and I as he has his own company. Working distracts me. The money is decent. And I can feel like I have some sense of normalcy. I plan on working until I can't anymore. That being said, I know I am lucky in the sense that I have been responding to the Herceptin and do not feel the intense fatigue. This indeed is a hard decision.
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Talpha - I am working full time, unmarried, and like to feed my family and cat plus pay the mortgage. I have 90:10 insurance, which becomes 100% after deductibles are met (easily) each year. I love my clients, and can work from home some days which helps a lot. I also use uber if the commute to LA gets to me. I plan travel a little more carefully and wouldn't want to stop working as I would feel less productive/relevant which is important to me. How you feel may differ, so please consider yourself here, not us. Are there any meds that may help you - perhaps a little ritalin or xanax? I had an 18 mo run on Ibrance + fas, and was happy working and traveling. FYI I am heading for a Baltic cruise at the end of June.
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I don't post much, but thought I'd share. I quit working under the advice of a financial planner while going thru chemo. I am able to make as much as I used to on Ssdi and Ltd combined. And just became eligible for Medicare 2 years after leaving my job. With Medicare and my husband's insurance I will now have almost 100% medical coverage. I have also recently started a PT job to supplement the SSDI. I am glad I was able to take 2 years off to give my body a chance to fight. I didn't understand about the 2 year wait for Medicare and I'm glad the advisor opened my eyes to it. The deductibles under my husband's policy were going up every year and not having to worry about that anymore is a huge relief...
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Thanks all. For now, I'm going to keep working. I took about 15 months off when I was first diagnosed. I was bored, but my body needed the rest. I like my job, but the commute is an hour each way. Decisions, decisions.
Looking forward. my sister and I are going to Switzerland at the end of June. I'm super excited and hope I'm not too tired to do all the things we have planned. Does anyone have any sage advice on traveling? I'm worried that the 11 hour flight is going to be awful. My joints and back hurt like I'm 80, not 41
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Honestly if I could go part time with my job and keep my benefits I probably would. I love being home and working on art. But would definitely miss the social connections. That two year gap waiting for Medicare puts a giant wrench in many women plans.
alpha, I too worry about a long plane trip. I want to take a trip out of the country so bad but worry that I will have a hard time while away. We just spent a weekend in Vegas and had a wonderful time. But I got sick the last day there and had to throw up in the pool side restroom. Not sure what brought it on but made me really think about a long trip. I plan to go for it anyway and you will most likely have no problems and a spectacular time!
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Talpha and Artist - I have been to Europe twice (along with Vancouver, Utah and New Mexico) since Stage 4 and headed for my Baltic cruise in June. My trip will be LAX: London: Stockholm, then returning from Copenhagen: London to LAX - so 11 hours + ahoy. Here are my tips: upgrade with miles where possible, biz class is worth it for safety and added comfort. Wear support hose until you arrive at your destination. Wipe down your tray and seat rest (germ traps). Avoid raw fish like sushi and salad bars (major germ fests). Drink lots of bottled water. Cruises are gentler than other travel (no daily unpacking), so please consider a cruise. River cruises like those on the Rhine and Rhone are flat - no seasickness. I will be in Basel, Switzerland in July (after my Paris cruise), visiting Lucerne and Zurich. I love Switzerland. FYI the Euro is down and cheaper than the pound or swiss franc. Altitude may bother you, so please bring meds. In fact bring all your meds EXCEPT - take a week off Ibrance, etc. per my onc's recommendations. For this next trip I'm taking a week off Afinitor. If you need to sit down, please do so. If you need a wheelchair through a major airport, get one. It can save you long lines of standing. Ask for help if you need it, and please travel with someone. PM me for any travel tips. I have been to many distant filming locations in my biz - happy to discuss.
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tmalpha, I was on the road a lot last year (conservatively I boarded 30 airplanes). This year I've already been to Spain with three more "across the ocean" trips coming in the fall. And I cut down my work travel this year LOL.
Lalady has given excellent advice. Buy WetOnes and wipe down everything on the plane, especially the seatbelt. Drink lots of water and get enough sleep. If you can fly business class on the long flight over, do it. It's worth every penny. If you can't, get a window seat and some sleeping pills.
Ask your onc 'what to do if'. Mine has always told me that if I start feeling bad (or sick) to stop taking the meds and I'll feel better in a couple of days. I travel with antibiotics just in case of fever or diarrhea.
Since your joints hurt, take pain meds before you get on the plane, and keep taking them. The most important thing is to have a fabulous time! You'll be surprised at what you will be able to do. I hear Switzerland is gorgeous!
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I have been managing to work full time in a pharmaceutical company due to my wonderful boss! I am allowed to work from home when I am too tired to drive, have flex hours which definitely makes it easy.
Talpha1, I can totally relate to your situation. When I was on Ibrance, the doctor switched me to Faslodex shots and for me, it was more bearable than Letrozole. Is this an option for you to try?
I was on short term disability in 2008 when I was undergoing IV chemo. At that time, the health insurance and all other benefits continued. Is this an option for you to explore? Or could you take sick days whenever it seems too much to cope?
Hope you find some work-life-health balance. Take a lot of rest when you can! You and all of us need this!
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Talpha, I have traveled a lot since dx, both in the US and internationally to Europe several times and Central America. I just returned from a 3 country Europe trip a few days ago. I have traveled on aromasin/faslodex/ibrance, xeloda and afinitor/aromasin.
I agree with Lalady, if you can find a way to swing business class on a long flight, it is worth it. I am fine on flights under 4 hours but anything over would be too hard on my back to sit in those seats that only recline 3 or so inches.
It is so relaxing to be on a trip and you can take breaks whenever you need to. I think it will be easier than you think. My DH likes to sitesee, then take a break at the hotel in the late afternoon, then go out again at night. It works out well for me now that I have mets. The mid-day break seems to make a huge difference. Also, my shoulders, which are tight and clenched up from sitting at a computer all day at a high-pressure job, totally loosen up on vacation and I feel so much better for that reason alone.
Enjoy your trip!!
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I worked for over 2 years with Mets. My employer was supportive. I had great/decent benefits. I had/have school age children at home. When I wrestled with this decision 7 years ago, another metster pm'd me and said that my stress would be greatly reduced. It was. I didn't think I was under a ton of stress. But kids, running a household, and a management position along with Cancer was a TON of stress.
I went on SSD 7 years ago this month. Financially we are okay. With my SSD and LTD I am at 60% of my salary. I have medicare now as our secondary, my husband carries our primary.
I have taken a TON of vacations, volunteered, done lunches , concerts..and spent time with friends and family. Having the time of my life in between treatments, rads and surgery. I can rest when I need to, I don't have to worry about treatment and fatigue. AND I can concentrate on my health. I look at it as an 'early' retirement. When I went on disability I thought I only a few years left. As you can see, I am still going strong.
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You are truly an inspiration Fitz! I take your comments to heart about concentration got your health. After all we took care of everyone else for years.....
Great tips lalady and pajim! I hope to pull a trip together soon. My DH is getting some simple back surgery and my daughter is getting married. But I am feeling a little selfish enough to go for it anyway!
I think that over my upcoming summer break I will come to somewhat of a conclusion about quitting work or not. Depends on a lot of factors. But I have always yearned for some real blocks of time to work on my art.
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Are there any part-time jobs with half-benefits (you pay half, they pay half) with your current employer, Artist?
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Thanks everyone. Lalady, I'm just north of you in Ventura County, so I'll be flying out of LAX, as well. We are flying coach, but I'm going to look into how much the upgrade to business class would be. I am worried about the altitude in Switzerland, especially because the altitude is so low here in SoCal. I'm traveling with my identical twin. We travel just ahead of our birthday, every year. Last year was a cruise to Alaska.
I'm so stressed out about my insurance that I don't think I can even consider leaving my job. I wish I could work a bit from home, but unfortunately, my job is one I need to be at my job site for.
To add to all this stress, I just found 3 small lumps on top of the silicone implant. I'm headed to the onc for a check up next Friday, but I emailed to see if it should be sooner. I'm trying really hard not to freak out. It's always something and it makes it hard to put on my happy face at work. :-(
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It's been 3 weeks since I worked - ever since I had a biopsy on a swollen lymph node. Official diagnosis was 3 days ago, though I already knew subconsciously... stage 4 recurrence.
My problem is I'm a nurse. An oncology nurse. And I just don't know how to face my job at this point. I know I should work while I can... I have 2 children in college...but emotionally I'm not sure about this.
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i had my reoccurance hit me just a couple of months ago. Doing rads now and likely chemo after. I also had surgery last nov for hydrocephelus. My legs were just getting stronger but with mets to my spine.....it is hard to walk very far, using a dang cane again.
I retired a few years ago and heath went down hill. I have pals who have asked me to travel but since i get so tired i have not maybe after this active part of ttreatment, i did a good job saving while i wad working but since it was a very small firm, the benefits were sort of lean,
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My lumps were just fatty cysts from the reconstruction revision. Phew!
I'm going to try my best to last the 2 years I have till I can medically retire with a pension.
I'm so sorry to hear about the recurrances. Hopefully your MO will be able to come up with a good treatment plan.
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