Starting Chemo May 2017
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WELL THAT SUCKED. Everything was okay until a few hours after chemo when I decided to go buy dog food and a few cancer supplies with my aunt (see my earlier post about how I dropped the ball on preparation) Only got as far as the grocery store checkout line before I had to go sit down. I was able to walk to the car but we had to skip the pet store stop to buy the poor dog his food. I was super-hot and lightheaded and shaky, and felt like I could lay down and take a nap on the pavement, but didn't really feel like I would throw up. My aunt gave me a zofran she unearthed from her purse (she went through chemo in 2015) but that didn't seem to help. Back at home I parked myself in the bed and didn't move. Meanwhile, my mom and aunt compared their dosages and realized I was only taking half what they'd been given, so I took another zofran from my current prescription and after an hour or so I started feeling well enough to sit up. My aunt woke me up at 11:30pm to take another one, and then I woke up feeling sick at 3am and took one, and then another at 9am. Currently force feeding myself an english muffin. There's a ginormous neon orange Home Depot bucket sitting next to my bed in case I needed to barf but I never did, but the bucket looks hilarious. If I hadn't taken the mom/aunt approved second pill I probably would have thrown up. I probably should have taken one right after chemo but the nurse never mentioned it, and they'd already given me a different type, something called Emend? Does anybody else take that? I have to swallow another one this afternoon and then one more tomorrow. Then it's just me and zofran I guess. The VA does not have the fancy Neulasta dispenser thingy so I'm going to have my parents do the injection thing for me today too. I'm sad my port hurts so much! I was awake for the whole thing and it seemed like an awful lot of pulling and yanking and crap. (feeling blood run down my neck was fun too!!) It feels a lot better today but last night I could hardly sit up and lay down without it killing me. If it weren't for that I wouldn't be half bad now, but my dog needs walking and our neighborhood has a lot of rabbits and I'm worried he'll catch me off guard and yank my neck around trying to chase one. Sorry for the ramble-y post but how long did your infusions take? They did my AC one in literally about 15 minutes which seemed shockingly fast to me and made me wonder if that's why I got slammed with side effects all at once like that. The C drug they did first and that took longer, but I was still only there for maybe 2 hours tops. Never had any steroids, only Benadryl, which made me really lightheaded. Fun times! My dog seems concerned but the cats are like "whatever lady, we still need our food".
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Sorry I didn't check back in sooner - we have a lot going on around here, LOL. My baby just graduated from college on Sunday, and we've been trying to find a way to fit the entire contents of her apartment in our home! I think we worked it out - you only have to climb over a Christmas tree, two chairs, and an end table to get to the dining room...
Anyway - I spent hours agonizing over the port placement, and kept getting teary at the hospital, to the point where I went to the bathroom to compose myself and couldn't come out because I couldn't stop crying. Finally I just walked out, tears flowing, and the nurse asked what on earth was wrong. My husband was shocked, because I hadn't let on that I was freaking out. My surgeon walked up as I was explaining that I was so scared about being awake during the procedure, and he said "No problem, we'll just increase the sedation. Why didn't you just tell me?" So I had to promise him, my husband, and the nurses that I would never ever keep something like that a secret again. As my surgeon said, there will be plenty of things on this journey that I won't be able to control, why on earth would I be quiet about something I absolutely CAN control? Lesson learned!
Bottom line: the port placement was a breeze. I didn't have general anesthesia, just a sedative. I "dozed off" as they were prepping me, the whole thing took less than half an hour, and I woke up when they were wheeling me back to recovery. I got out of the bed ten minutes later, after having had a snack, and went home. No pain, didn't even need an Advil! This morning, I feel a slight pull in my neck when I turn it, but I think that's more from the "krazy glue" they used to close the incision than the incision itself! The larger incision, on my chest, where the actual port is, is fine - just a hairline cut, no pain or soreness. More "glue", so no stitches.
Thanks so much for the support, everyone, and I wish everyone well wherever they are on this journey!!
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Checking in and sharing my experience thus far hoping it can help others as to what's to come. Had first treatment of TC a week ago today. Treatment day was fine and no issues. For three days after it was all about managing the nausea. Felt very tired like I had the flu. Use the anti nausea meds. I had a shot day of and then had to take emend for two days after, then took compazine and I have zofran also which I never took. On Saturday I woke up and nausea was gone. So basically three days of feeling like crap. Started feeling better Sat and thought worst was over. Sunday night I started feeling back pain which turned into non stop severe back spasms for about 18 hours straight. I thought it was side effect from Neulasta shot which my MO confirmed. He said take Claritin which I should've taken day of Neulasta shot and I will do that next treatment and he said I could take Advil. I had tried Tylenol for the pain and it did not work at all. The back spasms were debilitating. My MO said it shows your bone marrow is doing what it's supposed to do but not the best way to realize that. Advil was an instant relief and today they have passed. So today I'm one week out and feel actually normal today. Getting blood levels checked today and meeting with MO this afternoon. My next treatment is in two weeks. If I can go the next two weeks feeling like I do today then I will be thankful. Hang in there ladies!
Also taste buds have changed, don't eat anything you love when feeling nauseous as you might develop an aversion to it. I found carbs were my friend, buttered rolls, rice, even French fries, ginger ale.....whatever you need to get through the first few days. I was initially so worried about following nutritionist advice and then realized I just need to get through these few days. I've been using Biotene mouth rinse four times a day and have not had any mouth sores. Hair has not started falling out yet. Expecting that any day.
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I'm home ladies, and feeling ever so much better after sleeping long and hard in my own bed! I went out to check out my garden this morning, and had to sit down and cry a bit over the glory of being home to see my garden in the morning light.
Technically I'm scheduled for my next treatment on Thursday, but for today, I'm ignoring that. Doubtful it will happen, after all, my WBC was only 3.3 last I knew. Much better than the .3 I arrived with, but I believe 5-10 is fully normal. My new port is pretty achy today, but I'll keep icing it and using Tylenol. May you all have an easy SE day.
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When I was feeling terrible yesterday my relatives asked if I wanted to go stay with someone else until I felt better (since I live alone) but I said no. Nothing's better than sleeping in your own bed and being in your own house and yard! I'm glad you got to sit out in your garden this morning msrobin!
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parakeetsrule- everyone seems to get a slightly different chemo setup. For my AC, I have premed , flushes, the red devil (which is injected in 15 mins) flush, the the c part of AC which takes on hour and another flush.
Once I get home I take Zofran which I then takes every 8 hours on the dot for 3 days, followed by 1 compazine 4 hrs after Zofran and that pill is every 6 hours on the dot for 3 days.
I do get Emend in my pre-meds. And I do not take any steroid pills before or after chemo.
Call your MO and tell them how you felt. They should give you something else or more to make this a bit easier.
I also have to eat every 2-3 hours while on those pills to keep nausea feeling away. Drink water to flush out the AC and maybe try Sea Bands to help calm tummy. By day 2 I am drinking ginger tea to kill the queasiness
So sorry you had such a hard time. Hoping you start feeling better soon.
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msrobin58-- so glad you are home. Take it easy today and enjoy your home and garden.
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Your chemo infusion process sounds like mine, other than the order of drugs given. I was expecting it to take way longer but the nurse said they went faster because I'm young, she said "for my old men it can take 4 hours!" I think my mistake was not taking a zofran immediately, but nobody said I needed to do that! So far I'm not too impressed with the VA hospital with chemo. They sent me home with no information about side effects and what to do, even with the port I had no idea what to do with the bandages and when to take them off. All they said was "don't take a shower". My mom brought me the paper from her infusion center that listed all the possible side effects, when to take medicine, how much to take, and when to call the doctor, and her bag of leftover OTC drugs. I got nothing from the VA other than the Neulasta and Zofran pills and the directions on the prescription bag. Some of the other papers I have from them mention lists of possible side effects but that's not very helpful. Guess I'm lucky she and my aunt both went through it before me...
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Hi ladies, my first TC Chemo was last Tue 5/9.
Luckily no nausea so far, just weakness and some light-headedness. I went to work Thursday and Friday, the commute was a bit of a challenge though. Celebrated mother's day with my boyfriend's family at a restaurant and did some shopping too on Sunday. I try to keep it moving. But since Sunday night, I developed this excruciating, throbbing back pain like I had never felt before. Tylenol helped some but it would come back in a few hours later. I read online it often happens to people who use Neulasta. I talked to a nurse and went to get Claritin. Didn't help much yesterday, still had the late night pain, I had to wake up in the middle of the night to take Tylenol so that I could get some sleep. Talked to a nurse again and she recommended Motrin and also prescribing me some pain medication. The pain totally incapacitates me, hopefully I can manage it.
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I'm about to get my first Neulasta shot! I already have some Claritin so I'll take that right away and hope it wards off any bone pain. Ugh. Cancer is dumb. DodgersGirl, thanks for the comment about eating. I tend to skip meals in general so I'll have to remind myself to eat something more often now. Ginger tea sounds like a good idea too! Next time I'll take the Zofran right after chemo!!
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ParakeetRules, During my "chemo counseling" I was told that I would have to come into the clinic on Day 2 for my Neulasta shot (my onc clinic also doesn't have the pod for automatic injection) and to take a 24-hr Claritin between 30"- 1 hour BEFORE Neulasta. Claritin to be taken for 7-10 days, as long as bone pain lasts. With Tylenol and Advil as needed when bone pain is not relieved by Claritin alone.
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Ooh, good to know, thanks! I take them everyday anyway for allergies so I took one last night, but I'll take another one early! I think my mom brought me some Tylenol so I have that just in case too. I feel a lot better than I did last night, and I'm starting to wonder if they did in fact give me steroids in the pre-meds because I'm having strange urges to vacuum the house and reorganize my filing cabinets.
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ParakeetsRule, A sudden urge to clean and organize? That would be a great side effect of pre-chemo steroids, since lately I've had no desire whatsoever to vacuum! But I don't think my MO will be giving me IV steroids prior to AC. I've been told that I will receive Emend and/or Aloxi (for anti-nausea, -vomiting), Pepcid, Tylenol and Benadryl as my pre-meds. I haven't been given a prescription for Zofran. But if I feel nauseated after chemo, I'm to start taking Compazine 5mg, 1-2 tablets every 8 hours. And if I'm nauseated at night or have insomnia, to take Lorazepam .5-1mg every 8 hrs as needed, 30" to an hour after the Compazine. I think that whether I feel nauseated or not, I'm going to start taking the Compazine on Day 1 instead of waiting til Day 2 (instructed to take 1-2 tabs a few hours after waking). Glad you're feeling better today. Hope the Neulasta SEs are mild.
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ParakeetsRule- I am sorry that your first day was so bad. It's a shame that some places don't really inform you. I was given steroid pills, Emend and something else before my infusion. The A took longer than the C, but I also don't have a port so it is a slow injection alongside fluid into the vein. I was sent home with 2 days worth of Emend and steroids to take each morning with Compazine to fill in the gaps. I found I got nauseous around 5 in the afternoon, just in time for the commute home! It was usually pretty manageable. I also don't have a Nuelasta pod injector. I have to give myself nightly injections of Zorxio for 7 days. I take my nightly Zyrtec and an hour later give myself a shot and haven't really felt any effects. My daughter likes to help by holding my band aid. The pharmacist at my HMO said that they prefer the nightly injections because it doesn't stay in the blood stream as long. It's probably also cheaper for them! I hope the next few days go easily for you! The walks with your dog will probably help.
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Hi Everyone!
I'm too spacey today to keep everyone's posts straight in my head, so I guess I'll just give a synopsis of yesterday's first chemo infusion. Apologies for not being more personal. I'm on so many topics and I'm pretty new...having trouble keeping people and threads straight.
I spent 8 (count 'em, 8) full hours at the chemo clinic Monday! first a blood draw, then appointment with MO, then the long hours of infusion, then installation of the Neulasta cartridge thing. LONG DAY!!! but it went pretty well. Two of the meds (Herceptin and my iron infusion) made me hot and gave me a headache, but otherwise I was okay.
Slept the sleep of the dead last night. Woke up with only one dog in the room (there should have been two--lol--how did that happen?) and with a sore throat (probably snoring). Later in the day some nausea started, mild headache continues, i'm feeling a little weak, and my tongue feels like sandpaper. Mom says I smell a little funny, and the dogs agree. My pee smells weird, too. But so far, I can't complain.
The dose of Neulasta is due to dispense itself around 7pm. For those who don't know, it's supposed to stimulate the bone marrow to produce more cells, to keep up the blood counts. But has an unfortunately common side effect of bone pain. I hate bone pain, so I'm taking Zyrtec because we don't have any Claritin, and my MO said it probably doesn't matter precisely which drug we take. But I'm getting the impression he isn't a big fan of "off-the-label" uses of meds and supplements. He seems quite well-versed in mainstream medicine, but it's clear that complementary treatments don't impress him. As long as he doesn't fight me on it, I'll let him live.
Again, please forgive me for not being more personal here...I was too tired to log on last night, and have been pretty overwhelmed today, and now I'm getting sleepy and it's only 4pm! Ugh, cancer is HARD!!
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No apologies necessary, NCBeachGirl! Thank you for logging on at all after spending 8 hours at the chemo clinic yesterday. Hope the Zyrtec takes care of any bone pain. Rest up.
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MamaEnki, First I've heard of Zorxio in place of Neulasta. No bone pain? Sounds great.
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Lots of ladies checking in, and it's getting hard to keep everyone straight. Just know that I wish you all well!
Just had a good cry. You see, my hair started to fall out. Out of all the rotten things I've had to deal with in the last few months, and my hair falling out is the one that makes me cry the hardest. Good thing my chemo hats just arrived.
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Hi everyone. I started chemo the end of March and am half way through. I get treatment every 3 weeks and the rounds have become a little predictable - same but different.
Everyone is really different and that is what I learned. I was really afraid to know too much in the beginning because I didn't want to freak out about side effects I might not get. So read if you want but know your journey could be really different.
Week one – getting chemo doesn't hurt at all; just tired. Day 4,5,6 are hard. Side effects are bone pain, feeling very cold (without fever) and bowel problems (more on that below).
Middle of week 1 crossing into week 2: don't want to think and have a hard time communicating how I feel
Week two – first few days - everything tastes horrible, dry mouth, gray sticky tongue … after that … starting to get some energy back. I have gotten a rash this week on the top of my hands and lower arms – goes away by week 3 but have dryness, peeling and irritation that is still there.
Week three – pretty good. A little tired but I can eat and talk and get my courage back to go through it again.
The one thing I was not expecting at all was the constipation and I mean at a level I did not know existed. Pay attention and ask your treatment providers …… not going for a couple of days can become a nightmare if you let it go. Use the magnesium citrate if prescribed - it's worth it.
The loss of hair bothered me at first but now I don't even care - just getting through it is what I am focused on.
I am very lucky and always look for the positive even in the middle of the worse parts. I have learned I am stronger than I thought I was and that I am not alone.
I set up a private facebook page for my closest family and friends – the people that I trust wont judge my thoughts or choices ……. and post all kinds of things there – that way they know what I am going through and I don't have to tell them all at different times. I even use it to ask for help and post my schedule so everyone knows when I will be where and doing what. I also post positive things for them and articles for care providers – they are going through an emotional roller coaster too and need to know everything is going to be ok. It helps for me to get it out.
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Hello ladies:) First chemo tomorrow of AC. I'm nervous and for some reason on an emotional rollercoaster all day today. I found myself tearing up while getting ready this morning and then my favorite song came on Pandora and lifted my spirits right back up. I am scared of how I'm going to react to the chemo and if I'm going to be able to enjoy this spring/summer/fall at all. I guess I just need a little extra courage tonight so I can shake these nerves and get plenty of sleep tonight.
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Brneyegrl6608- I was where you are just a week ago. All feelings you are having are so normal and so understandable. One week in for me and today I can say I'm feeling very good. Take it one day at a time after your treatment. Read the posts above as to what others have experienced first week and how you can prepare. All good thoughts sent your way tomorrow. You can do this and you will!
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LeesaD, your posts are so helpful. I start AC on Thursday (4 rounds, biweekly; then Taxol for 12 rounds, weekly) and although we're on different regimens and schedules I've learned from you and others on this thread to prepare for nausea by taking anti-nausea meds before the nausea starts and to keep on schedule. Same with Claritin and Advil for bone pain. In fact, I plan to take Claritin on Day 1 and not wait til the next day before my Neulasta shot. If nothing else, maybe it'll help my hay fever symptoms! Thanks for sharing your experiences and suggestions. It's great you're doing well 1 week out
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Notanisland- all good energy sent your way for tomorrow!! Pay attn to what's going on with the side effects so you know for next treatment. Biggest surprise to me was the severe back pain/ spasms from the Neulasta and they started 4 days after I got the shot. Next time I'm taking Claritin day 1 also and for a week after. I had my counts checked yesterday one week out and my MO said my counts are excellent. I said they better be as I felt every single one of those extra white blood cells being made and it was not fun. Just thankful that by the time the back pain started the nausea had subsided. You got this!
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Hi everyone,
Sorry I've been MIA for a few days - I've been prepping for my first chemo today. The house is (reasonably) clean, shopping done, chemo bag packed, and I'm waiting for my ride to pick me up. Ready to get today over with!
I did read everyone's posts, but it is so hard to reply to everyone in this format.
Msrobin, I'm glad that you are home.
Parakeetsrule, I'm sorry your first day didn't go as well as you'd hoped. Now that you know what to expect, maybe the next one will be better.
Brneyegirl, let us know how yesterday went.
NCBeachGirl, glad to hear things went well for you.
Notanisland, we'll have to compare notes - I start AC today as well!
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lovepugs77 - best of luck today. I had AC yesterday and still riding the pre-meds so will work today for 10 hrs and be off Fri-Sat-Sun so I can rest and take it easy
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DodgersGirl, I'm glad to hear you are feeling well. That gives me hope!
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lovesplug77 - do you have anti-nause pills at home already? My MO said to take the first script when I get home. Then x number of hours later, take the second script. After that for me, I am to take each at regular scheduled intervals for 3 days. Then as needed after that.
Also, if you are getting a Neulasta box, take a Claritin today and then 1 every 5 days after that to minimize bone pain (I was lucky-- no problems at all with Neulasta) oh-- and I took 1 Tylenol 30 mins before Neulasta does its thing 27 hours after chemo. And, if you do have Neulasta, once it delivers its dose (takes about 45 mins) and the green light is solid and box shows empty, you just grab a pinch of tape around the bos and pull it off and toss
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I have a purely practical question - I don't have a start date yet (still waiting for a scan or two), but I was wondering what you're supposed to wear to chemo... I have a port, and was wondering if I need something that opens in front, or has a loose neckline? I'm going to the oncology center on Monday, and can ask then, but I wondered what any of you might have preferred. I'm finding that if I focus on mundane stuff like this, I won't worry about all the meds I'll be needing!
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Thailinh, we seem to have ignored you. My tumor was 1.2 cm, no node involvement, and I was also told not to worry, because I wouldn't need chemo. Unfortunately, it was also ILC, and I had an Oncotype score of 24, right in the middle of the intermediate range. Because ILC tends to hide and recur later, I am doing the chemo, and will be starting some time next week. Can say I'm looking forward to it, but I'm on Medicare and have a good supplement, so am not worried about the bills, and work from home, which I may do a lot once I've lost my hair. I know I'm too self-conscious to go bald in public. I'll need to buy my wig next week, so they can match it to my hair. At least I've worn my hair short the last 40 years, so it won't take long to grow back. I just have to hope I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have any permanent hair loss from the Taxotere. I'm more worried about neuropathy, but am hoping for the best there as well.
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ciaca - what I see at my infusion center is oeopke in normal casual clothes. Lots of button down shirts, women wearing a cardigan over a button front shirt. I just wear something with a top that you can access the port by pulling on the opening.
They put a cloth over your shirt as a caution
I did read on this board where a lady keeps a spare shirt in her car because if anything were to spill, the shirt gets thrown away (hazardous waste) and so she was able to wear her spare shirt home
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