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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    Thanks for the link. Why do you say its not true about the sugar? I thought cancer loved sugar. Processed anyway.

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  • jcb51
    jcb51 Member Posts: 382
    edited October 2012

    HLB, cancer cells DO need sugar to thrive, but depleting sugar from our diet will not deprive cancer cells of the sugar they need or keep them from growing. Here is some info from the Mayo Clinic that someone posted for me in another thread about sugar and cancer:

    Cancer causes: Popular myths about the causes of cancer
    Myth: People with cancer shouldn't eat sugar, since it can cause cancer to grow faster.

    Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster. All cells, including cancer cells, depend on blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But giving more sugar to cancer cells doesn't speed their growth. Likewise, depriving cancer cells of sugar doesn't slow their growth.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cancer-causes/CA00085/NSECTIONGROUP=2

    Cancer cells will get the sugar they need one way or another. If they don't get enough sugar from our diets, they will cause our bodies to break down stored body fat to produce the sugar they need.

    Jan

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited October 2012

    ForestDweller: thanks for your response. I totally agree on the variety of research based opinions, so glad we all get to have the discussion going on. My initial intension was to answer one of the sisters, BTW. I'll be more than happy to hear more on the alternatives.



    HLB: I will be receiving the scans & meet MO next Thursday. Thumbs up for that! Please add me in for the info you find. I'll look on for essiac tea & detox bath. I have witnessed in many cases how a good diet supports the treatment for cancer. Hope it works for you too.



    Fitz: Here it is not easy to find hormone free beef, surely do miss a great T-bone steak! MO said raising cows take longer than sheep, it was something about quality of the protein, I did not ask in detail.



    Kfontaine: Chicken was Ok'ed for me as long as it was hormonefree & free range. Not many producers here are focused on that yet. So prefer turkey meat to be on the safe side. I had read about alkaline water, found a specific brand of natural spring water with ph 8.22. My parents are regulars of the main malls around the city collecting all bottles they can find:)



    Jcb51: thanks for the link, Jan. interesting info on sugar. So much conflicting data out there, isn't it? Hope for the best for all of us, the CURE please!!



    Ebru

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  • aic
    aic Member Posts: 417
    edited October 2012

    HLB....please include me on your diet findings... thank you... great info everyone

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  • banjobanjo
    banjobanjo Member Posts: 960
    edited October 2012

    I still think that a wide variety of food gives the best diet.  Perhaps because each of us has a different DNA and a different cancer, foods/drinks have a different effect on us, so that green tea is good for one and bad for another.  The doctors can't tell us individually what will be best for our DNA and our tumour.

     I avoid all extremes and eat/drink what I fancy in moderation.  This way, I get some of what is good for me and some of what may be bad for my particular situation but there is no real proof that can be generally applied and until there is, I am not going to fuss about my diet.  I never take sugar in drinks and don't drink fizzy drinks but I really enjoy good ice cream and cakes - that's where I choose to have my sugar.  I think balance is everything.

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  • Bestbird
    Bestbird Member Posts: 2,818
    edited October 2012

    The information in the attached link is the best, clearest, substantiated explanation I've read about the effects of diet and supplements on bc, including soy and sugar.  The author, Jeanne Wallace, PhD, CNC is considered one of the nation's most prominent experts in nutritional oncology. She is the founder and director of Nutritional Solutions which provides consulting to cancer patients throughout the U.S. and abroad about evidence-based dietary, nutritional, and botanical support to complement conventional cancer care. She completed her undergrad studies magna cum laude at Boston University, earned her Nutrition Consulting degree at Bauman College in Santa Cruz, CA, and completed her PhD in Nutrition through American State University. She is board certified in Holistic Nutrition, and is a member of the Society of Integrative Oncology and the National Association of Nutrition Professionals.

    I'm not a patient of hers but have read much of her work and admit to being quite impressed.

    If you have the time to read the article, it may answer some questions and make several points that may not have been widely known. 

    http://www.breasthealthproject.com/nutrition.html

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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    What an excellent article!! Thank you so much!

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  • evergreen9
    evergreen9 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2012

    Stagefree,

    Great that you warn re no green tea during chemo. My cancer care centre doesn't provide it as a choice while you are there for chemo.

    Now that I am done however, I drink 3 cups a day of Japanese sensha tea, thought to have the highest levels of its good ingredient....

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited October 2012

    Bestbird: thank you for the great article which sums up the rationale of the suggested diets by our nutritionists. Mine was designed according to my specific case, so I get from Jeanne that green tea may interact with Taxotere and was a no no b/c of that. I am also happy to read Jeanne's supporting views of a well-planned & balanced diet, it motivates so much!



    Banjobanjo: what can I say , but that I agree with you. Waiting for TM's to decrease some more to enjoy a great bite of chocolate cake myself!



    Aic & Evergreen9: you're welcome. It's great to share info which can help so many of us.



    HLB: just learned a drop of virgin olive oil to the freshly prepared carrot juice helps the body absorb the useful substance (I forgot it's name) to the max.



    Love & hugs everyone

    Ebru

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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    Thank you forthat info Ebru. My dad makes the carrot juice for me every day so I will get some!



    Well I had my meeting this past satutday with the lady I mentioned above, and I made a post about it in the complimentary forum. Its called My meeting with a survivor who used alternatives. For anyone intereted in the info they gave me :-)

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  • evergreen9
    evergreen9 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2012

    Now that I am done my treatments, I have a list of foods I try to incorporate every day, including berries, bright vegetables, cabbage family, etc. Then each evening I take my "extra dose" of "Hope this helps, and it can't hurt" food meds: I take about 1 tbsp of turmeric daily, mixed with 1/4 cup organic tomato sauce, 1/8 tsp pepper (supposed to help the body absorb the turmeric) and 1 tsp pureed garlic, all mixed into a paste. All of these are believed to have properties that fight cancer trying to start up again. My oncologist and several books I've read encourage "food as medicine", saying that not enough is known re the components of a food, and whether all of these components survive the manufacture process of a supplement. So I do this instead of supplements, though I do take Vit d. Regardless of what you believe re the food vs supplements issue, there is a lot of evidence at the lab level, of the effectiveness of turmeric in fighting cancer. I don't know of any human studies, which of course will be the "last word" on the topic. But for now, I am taking my turmeric!

    Check the following website for tons of scientific studies, on turmeric, green tea, etc.'

    http://services.oxfordjournals.org/voucher/get

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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    I take turmeric as well. Can you tell me how that paste tastes? Do you just eat it by the spoonful? Thanks for the info!

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited October 2012

    Mom brought me a bottle of turmeric about a month ago, which I have not opened yet. Ok, got the message ( ;) ) I'll add it to my daily intake of health supporting goodies, along with a boiled beetroot & a bitter mellon (really bitter indeed!).

    Evergreen9: interesting recipe, hope it's not yucky. Is the pepper black BTW?

    Ebru

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  • evergreen9
    evergreen9 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2012

    Dear Stagefree,

    Yes, it's black pepper. And I don't mind the taste at all. The tomato and turmeric flavours seem to blend well.

    Now I'll have to check out that bitter melon... what kind is it?

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  • evergreen9
    evergreen9 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2012

    Dear HLB,

    Yes, I mix it together in a glass, then eat it with a spoon, like soup. I have tried several methods, including slathering it on toast, but this last method is the one I've stayed with. Then I brush my teeth, and get into bed with my tablet, my breastcancer.org friends and two pieces of dark chocolate. Yummy! Meanwhile, with my bedlight on low, my hubby snoozes away!

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited October 2012

    Evergreen9, now the recipe is completed, thank you :) I'll give it a try as soon as I'm back from holiday.

    I got the translation as bitter melon as I did not know it's name in English. On iphone I can't copy the image. It looks like a big tear drop, orange colored with Pimple looking lumps all around it. Has red seeds, which are also used as well.

    Ebru



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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited March 2017

    bump for newbies..

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited May 2017

    bump

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  • gramen
    gramen Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2017

    awesome thread Ebru! I'm halfway reading.

    Thank you!

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  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited May 2017

    Great thread. I love hearing everyone's suggestions and experiences.

    I was reading last night and came across an article about breast cancer stem cells (believed to be the true culprit behind mets) and it said that broccoli, turmeric and pipeline (black pepper) kill breast cancer stem cells. I take a turmeric/piperine supplement but plan to look into upping the strength or getting some turmeric powder.

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited May 2017

    Why not mix turmeric, black pepper, and olive oil and pour it on steamed broccoli?

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited May 2017

    not a bad idea. I cold press black seed and drink occasionally. What I've summerised before was the cancer dietician's views. ;

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited May 2017

    Thank you for sharing all this info, Ebru!

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  • starbrightlyshines
    starbrightlyshines Member Posts: 344
    edited June 2017

    Thank you Ebru!!!

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited June 2017

    Bump!

    Ladies this is a highly paid thread haha! Get the most of it!

    Hugs

    Ebr

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited June 2017

    Hi, Ebru. I'm always interested in tweaking the diet to help with treatment. I'm about to start Xeloda. Can you tell me why you said somewhere to avoid dairy with Xeloda? I'm thinking of continuing to avoid milk, but using yogurt and kefir for probiotics to help avoid gastrointestinal issues.

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  • stagefree
    stagefree Member Posts: 2,780
    edited June 2017

    hi S,

    İts's Xeloda 101, no milk..

    you can have yoghurt as snack, without other protein. No yoghurt drink with meatballs.. no cheeseburgers.. it's the rule. My MO is a teaching professor at top notch university and among a few in the world. Her rule, and so be it ;)

    Kefir, cheese etc are all ok as consumed alone.

    No pogmenerate and greyfruit of course..

    ı am not a diet freak, I just got professional advice on intervening things with drugs.. so far so good.

    I also still try to avoid green tea.

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited June 2017

    Ok, thanks. That's no problem for me as I do not really have two protein foods in the same meal. No meatballs or cheeseburgers; just chicken, turkey, fish, eggs, nuts, cheese, yogurt.

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