AI - exemestane (Aromasin)

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Opale
Opale Member Posts: 40

I'm going to try a new AI to see if it makes a difference for me in terms of side effects. The clinic dr (a GP with experience working with oncologists) prescribed examestane (Aromasin) and my oncologist recommended Anastrozole. Wondering about the difference I found the info below that says examestane is an irreversible steroid. I don't see anything on this site so far that explains the differences between AI delivery mechanisms. If you find it, please let me know. So just made me wonder if I go on it and decide to switch to Anastrozole because of SE - will Anastrozole have any effect at all since examestane "permanent destroys" the enzyme? Not sure how long that takes but also wondering if staying on examestane makes sense if it has already destroyed the enzyme at a point in time. This whole thing just makes me wonder about the role of doctors and their duty to help patients understand the implications of the drugs they prescribe. Appreciate your thoughts and wisdom. Best, Opale

"After menopause, estrogen production occurs in peripheral tissues (skin, muscle, fat, and benign and malignant breast tissue) through the conversion of androgens to estrogens by the P450 cytochrome enzyme aromatase (CYP19) [3, 4, 5, 6]. There are two primary approaches to the hormonal treatment of estrogen receptor (ER)-positive breast cancers: selective ER modulators (for example, tamoxifen) that directly interact with the ER and inhibit its activity in breast tissue; and AIs that reduce post-menopausal production of estrogen [2]. The nonsteroidal AIs anastrozole and letrozole competitively inhibit aromatase, while the steroidal AI exemestane irreversibly inhibits the enzyme; however, both types of inhibitors suppress plasma and tissue estrone concentrations, the dominant estrogen in post-menopausal women, by >93% [7, 8, 9]. AIs are ineffective in women with functional ovaries because of their inability to block ovarian production of estrogen [10]." source was from breast-cancer-research.biomedcentral.com

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  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited May 2017

    Hi Opale:

    The "irreversible" mechanism of action of exemestane (AROMASIN) has come up elsewhere and caused some confusion. The "irreversible" mechanism of action does not mean that the action of exemestane cannot be thwarted by discontinuing the drug or that it has a permanent effect. If it were truly "irreversible" in a layperson sense, you wouldn't need to take it for so long.

    Per their FDA labels, all three Aromatase Inhibitors (AIs) are provided in the form of tablets for oral administration. The different mechanisms of action of steroidal versus non-steroidal AIs are not based on differences in drug delivery, but are a consequence of the different molecular structures of the drug substances and how they interact with the aromatase enzyme.

    Regarding the biochemical mechanism of action of exemestane, the FDA label for the drug explains:

    "Exemestane is an irreversible, steroidal aromatase inactivator, structurally related to the natural substrate androstenedione. It acts as a false substrate for the aromatase enzyme, and is processed to an intermediate that binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme, causing its inactivation . . ."

    Per one recent review article:

    "Many of the most widely employed and successful drugs in clinical use are irreversible drugs.[1-8] Aspirin, which was developed by Bayer in 1897 as an anti-inflammatory agent, is probably the best known example. As with many other examples, the covalent mechanism of action of Aspirin was discovered by serendipity more than 70 years after its commercialization. Aspirin causes the irreversible inhibition of cyclooxygenases 1 (COX-1) and 2 (COX-2), which are enzymes involved in the prostaglandin biosynthesis, by acylation of a serine residue that is close to the active site.[9, 10] Other examples are penicillins and cephalosporins,[7] which are antibiotics that inhibit the cross-linking of bacterial cell walls catalyzed by penicillin binding proteins (Figure 1). Fosfomycin,[11-13] which is an antibiotic that targets MurA, an enzyme involved in peptidoglycan biosynthesis, and omeprazole, which is a proton pump inhibitor for the treatment of diverse stomach diseases, are further examples.[14]"

    By becoming stably bound to its enzyme target, an "irreversible" inhibitor acts in a one-on-one manner. While drug therapy continues, prolonged duration of inhibition of the bound enzyme is theoretically possible. However, once drug is discontinued, free drug levels decrease according to half-life. Exemestane has "a mean terminal half-life of about 24 hours" in healthy post-menopausal women: it takes a few days to get rid of free drug. Meanwhile, aromatase activity will recover via the synthesis of new aromatase enzyme molecules. As for any remaining inhibitor that is irreversibly stuck to one enzyme molecule, it cannot go get another aromatase enzyme molecule, so any newly synthesized aromatase enzyme is free to do its business, unless you resume treatment with an AI.

    BarredOwl

  • Falconer
    Falconer Member Posts: 1,192
    edited May 2017

    BarredOwl, Namaste

  • Opale
    Opale Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2017

    Awesome BarredOwl - From what you wrote this is what I understood. Exemestane (AROMASIN) acts to destroy the aromatase enzymes. But the key is that those enzymes are continually reproducing so stopping AROMASIN, means that the new enzymes continue to grow and are unaffected by the prior use of the drug. And, that's why you need to continue taking the drug - to destroy new enzymes that form. If I misunderstood anything, would you please let me know. Best, Opale

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited May 2017

    Hi Opale:

    That is basically it. Exemestane destroys the activity of the aromatase enzyme, so the enzyme doesn't work anymore.

    Enzymes are proteins. As part of routine cellular maintenance, old and/or damaged proteins are degraded (by protein degradation machinery) and new ones are made to replace them (by protein synthesis machinery). This is called "protein turnover".

    Enzymes technically do not reproduce or grow, but new enzymes are routinely made by cells. Continued treatment with exemestane (or another AI) is needed to inhibit newly made aromatase enzymes. If you stop exemestane treatment, aromatase activity will recover (due to newly made enzymes).

    BarredOwl

  • Opale
    Opale Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2017

    Awesome, thanks BarredOwl! Now I know more about enzymes too! Here's something interesting. I took my estrogen levels on Letrozole. It was <40 (dr says very little estrogen in my system). I took a month off Letrozole and took my estrogen level again. It was the same <40. And the FSH was about the same too - 54.4 with letrozole and 53.6 without letrozole. I used the same lab so the results were comparable. I will go to the doctors with the result and see what they say. Wondering if my natural estrogen levels will creep up over time or remain steady.

  • bella237
    bella237 Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2017

    Another vote for the paravertebral block. I had one with my BMX (with tissue expanders placed) and had very easily managed pain. Prescription pain killers the first couple of days and at night for a few more. About 6 hours after surgery, I was up and wandering the halls of the hospital and by the next morning was doing basic bellydance hipwork when the doctors did rounds (I've been dancing for over a decade and hipwork is part of my wake up routine every morning). Needless to say, I recommend it to anyone going through a MX.

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited May 2017

    Opale:

    Were you pre- or post-menopausal at diagnosis?

    BarredOwl

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