Faslodex, Fatigue & Feeling Like Crap

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lukejessesmom
lukejessesmom Member Posts: 598

Need some input from you girls on Faslodex. I'm trying not to let my mind run wild, but I'm having lots of aches and pains since going on this treatment in November. Back, ribs, legs....even Percoset doesn't take away this kind of pain. Also, I'm dragging around like I'm 90, not normal at all for me. My right side and back seem to ache constantly. So sick of getting in bed at 7 p.m.....but don't feel like doing anything else. Anyone else have symptoms similar to this?? I've pushed, poked...don't feel anything but achiness.

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  • justjudie
    justjudie Member Posts: 3,397
    edited January 2012

    I might have some achiness due to it but not bad enough for pain pills even. I am also on Xeloda and I think its that that makes me so worn out. I hear you on that. NO energy...just want to lay down. But I feel a little better on my week off the Xeloda so I think that is caused more by the Xeloda than the Faslodex.



    But all these drugs are so different for each one of us. So its hard to say. But I do hope you feel better. Do you feel worse after getting your shots? That might indicate it is the Faslodex.



    Judie

  • china
    china Member Posts: 1,567
    edited January 2012

    Luke & Jesses Mom, I did Faslodex before i had to go onto chemo BUT it was because my tumor burden was too high. I had done the 3 loading doses and at that time it was the 250mg. I had had my injection on the 24th right before Thanksgiving, big mistake. My legs hurt to walk, they had a deep achy,kinda numbing sensation, my spine and hip joints hurt really bad. The next day we went to our neighbor's for thanksgiving. i felt so sick that i left early and did not even eat hardly. my spinal mets hurt so bad that i was in tears. i took 1 vicodin 5mg/500 (500 is the tylenol part) and used a heating pad. 2 hours later, i took another Vicodin, i was in so much pain. I finally fell asleep. At first I thought, i can't do this tmt but each injection was slightly better and then i did the monthly dose but had to do chemo because my mets in my liver became life-threatening. I had read from an onc journal that the intense pain and SE's were from the drug killing the tumors and that it meant a good response to the drug. I also was fatigued but it could of been from the cancer symptoms. Wishing you luck, but that drug made me almost quite that tmt at first. Dawn

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    I didn't know I had bone mets and had no pain until I started treatment.  For the first two weeks especially after a treatment I have bad joint pain -and it can change location - will last for about 3 days and then it is gone.  I get no relief.  On the 23rd of Dec. it hit my R. knee and I could hardly walk.  By Christmas day it was gone.  I have had lots of low back pain and I am not sleeping well at night between my back and left hip. 

    I ask for a med I had taken before for fatigue but now insurance won't pay for it and it is to expensive to get again.  Today my PCP gave me some Ritalin.  I had another mets lady tell me she is on that; it is cheaper and it helps with the fatigue.  I ask him about it and he said he was going to suggest it to me.  So something you might want to check into.  I do think there are drugs that can help us with the fatigue.

    We started the Faslodex about the same time- this is the same kind of pain that I had with the Femara too though and I felt as if I was some little 90 year old woman.  It is just the nature of these drugs I think.  I do think if you can get something for the fatigue, it will help.  I take Vicodin and  didn't get lots of relief either.  I did rub some Voltaren gel (that my hubby had) on my knee and it did help with the pain.

    I just had to get something for the fatigue - when I did that the others didn't seem quite as bad.  Just know you aren't alone in your symptoms.

    Hugs,  Brenda 

  • tendimes
    tendimes Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2012

    Hey LJ'sMom,  I know how you feel. Stopped the faslodex the first time after a year because I couldn't stand the pain anymore. Thought I had mets on my back for sure! Not anything to do with cancer, another side effect from the medicine. I stopped the faslodex and started taking Mobic (meloxicam, a NSAID by prescription). Took oral antiestrogen for a year, now am back on faslodex and pain is so much more under control. I don't even have to take the Mobic everyday. Don't know what other medical issues or limitations are, but ibuprofen tonight might tide you over until you can call the dr tomorrowLaughing. I had lots of joint pain with the first round of faslodex also.

    I've been doing the whole stage IV thing for almost 9yrs, so I understand the feeling ancient thing. My ARNP checked and my Vit D levels were almost nonexistant. So have had more energy since starting the Vit D supplements.

    Don't let your mind get carried away! One of the top side effects of Faslodex (check their website) is back pain and joint pain. And don't forget fatigue!

    Hope that encourages you some. 

    Prayers for your comfort & encouragement!  

    Lori

  • SusieMTN
    SusieMTN Member Posts: 795
    edited January 2012

    I am on Faslodex (Zometa and Herceptin too) and I seem to be doing fine.  I hope it stays that way as I had a REALLY hard time on AI's and Tamoxifen.  My pain in my spine is actually better and no real joint pain. 

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited January 2012

    My back- where my mets are- gets achey at the end of the day, but usually ok during most of it.  I haven't had to take pain meds for awhile- since Thanksgiving, I think.  I hope this doens't mean it's not working!!  I am more tired now, but part of that is just the after-holiday let-down, I think.  Taking whey protein shakes in the morning actually helps with my fatigue.

    I have noticed a bit of new pain in the front of my ribs, and my sternum.  Kind of spookey, but I'm not going to let it get to me until scan time.

  • AmryAnn47
    AmryAnn47 Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2012

    Lori, I too take Mobic for my arthritis--probably masks the mets pain and the pain from the Faslodex.  I also take 300mg gabapentin AM & PM for nerve pain for the neuropahty from the first round of chemo 7 yrs ago.  Maybe that is also helping with general pain relief. 

    So sorry that this has been so hard for you Brenda.

    Wishing everyone success & less pain.

  • sueco
    sueco Member Posts: 250
    edited January 2012

    I have been reading other posts for months and it seemed like few had side effects from Faslodex.  I too feel like a 90 yr old.  I do not have your severe pain but I ache all over.  My main problem is the stiffness of my legs when I walk.  The right knee hurts when I bend it and just does not make it possible to walk normally.  No pain except knee  - just stiffness and achiness.  This all started when I started Faslodex and has gotten worse.  I also have traveling pain - one shoulder, then the other, then my hip.  I know my hip is bursitis.  Maybe you could check with your doctor.  What helps me a lot is just getting out of the house so my mind is not on my fatigue and aching.  Wishing you less pain during this tough time.

  • evie510514
    evie510514 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2015

    Hello, I am a 64 yr. old female who lives in S. Louisiana. I too am Stage 4 with Mets. on the spine, thorax & pelvic. I was diagnosed in 2011 & I am currently taking Faslodex injections along with Xgeva injections once a month. For those that don't know, the Faslodex is to stop the production of estrogen & the Xgeva is to strengthen the bones. (I was surprized to learn that a women's body continues to produce estrogen even after menopause.) I had been taking Tamoxifen prior to that & my last scan showed it was no longer working so my doctor stopped it & put me on Faslodex. My husband does everything for me from cooking to washing clothes. (Yes, I am blessed.) Just taking a shower is quite a chore for me. It is like every joint in my body hurts constantly. At first I thought it was just my Rheumatoid Arthritis flaring up but it doesn't go away like it used to & that's why I think it is from the Faslodex. Nothing I take for pain seems to help much either. If I'm not sitting on the recliner watching TV, then I'm more then likely, coloring. I have taken up pencil coloring just to keep myself occupied but now have lymphedema in my right hand & arm so I'm trying not to overwork it. Since April of 2015 I have colored 7 adult coloring books & am working on another one right now. It's addictive but also a good pass time for me that keeps my mind busy. I also read novels but have started ordering the ones with large print since I don't "see" the way I used to. Sewing for my granddaughter is also something I love to do but I don't get out much to buy sewing supplies. I'm glad I found this site to post on. I feel like I just spoke to a good friend.

  • debcaudill
    debcaudill Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2015

    I am stage iv, in remission. The faslodex at times kills me as I have spinal stenosis and two bad knees. Here lately though I am having alot of pain in my hip joints. It takes all I have somedays to get up and get my legs and hips to cooperate, they hurt so badly. I wonder if the faslodex can affect the joint lubricants? Sorry I know thats not what its called but chemo brain lasts longer then they say. I also stay tired with no energy. And here it is, almost weds, time for the injections again and I still have hard knots from the last ones, despite rubbing them.

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited September 2015

    For me I find that staying EXTREMELY hydrated, stretching and motrin is helping a lot with the aches and pains of Faslodex.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited September 2015

    Like Fitz says the hydration is paramount and so is the moving about (no matter what) - I have a small spoiled dog who needs to be walked three times a day - not long distances but a few blocks and that has saved my life - I cannot take anything for arthritis pain but Tylenol Arthritis and my PCP did recommend Voltaren Gel at my last visit as I have been dealing with a torn rotator cuff for the past year or so - my biggest problem with the injections is that for the two weeks afterward I am quite weak and therefore it interferes with my getting out and going places on my own and I miss that lack of independence.

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited September 2015

    I take Cymbalta for joint pain. It definitely helps. Stretching, exercise and staying active help too. Although I do have side effects, I am very appreciative that I can take hormone and targeted therapies right now and am avoiding chemo. Will gladly take these drugs over chemo for as long as possible. It is not a bad gig, considering the alternative.


  • Georgie0326
    Georgie0326 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2015

    I am feeling so badly, I almost started crying. I told my husband I can't live like this. I am so weak and tired, I can barely drag my body around to do anything. I mostly sit in my recliner with my iPad (thank Goodness for my iPad). We went out to Walgreens yesterday, and I got a terrible hot flush which seems to start low in my body and works its way to the top of my head. By then, my brain has turned to mush, and when this happens, I get even weaker and sometimes I feel like I am going to pass out. I've been on Fulvestrant since the end of September, and these side effects are getting worse. I have had right knee/hip/leg/back pain, ever since Day 1. I take Diclofenac every day but I don't think it is doing all that much. i am seeing my MO on Monday and will discuss with him. I am going for a massage today on my feet and legs as I hope this will make them feel better


  • Hummingbird1
    Hummingbird1 Member Posts: 8
    edited December 2015

    Faslodex causing pain in butt, not dispersing like it should. Hard, large painful lumps in shot areas. Have had 4 treatments and not getting better. Can't get answer from MD. Anyone else have that?

    Lot of energy, but body won't cooperate. Have to do just one thing a day...shopping, or errand, not both. Also on Ibrance and Zometa. Pain in L4 vertibrae where cancer is localized now. CA numbers going down, but very slowly. Cancer cells dead on other bone sites.

    Don't know where I stand. Can't find anyone with this kind of cancer Recurrent BC after 25 years in bones.

  • Hummingbird1
    Hummingbird1 Member Posts: 8
    edited December 2015

    DEB.... with hard lumps from Faslodex. MD said use heat, hasn't worked. Is there link to arthritis? My knee has been a problem for 20 years, but now all fluid is gone and it's very painful. Can't have knee replacement. Also getting superficial clots in right leg. Allergic to pain meds, live alone, can't take a chance. Alternating between Tylenol and Advil, both make me feel sick.

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited December 2015

    Georgia and Hummingbird, there is a Faslodex thread in case you haven't seen it:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topics/816419

    It's for 2014 but people have been posting there. Maybe they will do a new one for 2016.

    Ibuprofen and exercise work for me most times but recently my knee pain has been so bad I was given a prescription for Celebrex (generic celecoxib) and it worked like magic.

  • starbrightlyshines
    starbrightlyshines Member Posts: 344
    edited December 2015

    I felt this way on Femara. Lyrica has worked wonders for me, maybe it would also work for Faslodex.

  • Georgie0326
    Georgie0326 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2015

    Yes, Heidihill. That is one of my fave threads! Thanks

  • JBeste
    JBeste Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2017

    Hello there Luke and Jesses mom, my name is June . I have just found this website. I have stage IV breast cancer with mets all over my bones. Mostly hips, spine, even clavicles. I've been through a few meds but my numbers are climbing again. My Dr. wants me to begin Fosladex. I'm really worried. I have heard a lot of negative things regarding side effects.

    How are you doing? I certainly hope all is well with you. How is your treatment going? How long did you have to take the injections? I'd appreciate any insight you can give me.

    Regards,

    June

  • 50sgirl
    50sgirl Member Posts: 2,527
    edited April 2017

    June,

    Welcome to BCO. I am sorry that you have been diagnosed with stage IV bc. You can gain a lot of good information and receive great support from the people on the stage IV threads. Browse the site, and you will find many pertinent threads. One suggestion I have for you is the Bone Mets Thread. You will find that there are many men and women living pretty normal lives with bone mets. In spite of what you might read when you google, we can live for many years with this disease.

    This Faslodex thread that you have posted to is an old thread that has been inactive for a while, but there is an active thread about Falodex. Here is the link:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topics/816419

    It is called Faslodex Girls 2014. It includes tips to follow when receiving the injections to help avoid soreness from the shots. I found those tips to be helpful. There are many of us on Faslodex who are experiencing few if any side effects in spite of the lists of potential issues. I have been taking it since last July, but some women have been taking it for several years. Many say that it has fewer side effects than most other treatment plans.Join us there if you have any questions or concerns.

    Lynne

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited April 2017

    Jest,

    Faslodex was my easiest protocol to date! Almost no side effects, once a month shots, and it kept me dancing with NED for five years. It isn't a drug to be feared. I only wish I was still on it. Read the long thread that exists, follow the center of gravity suggestions, and you should be fine.

    *susan*

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