Newly diagnosed with DCIS and so scared
After reading information non stop online since being diagnosed and driving myself crazy, I decided to join this group. I read a ton of threads thus far from this site and I really enjoy reading all the supportive comments and words of encouragement. I was recently diagnosed with high grade DCIS (7cm) in my right breast. I suffered from mastitis last summer years after breast feeding my youngest child which was cleared up with my gyn and he said if it happened again he would send me for further evaluation (I wish i would have followed up more than). After that I would occassionally have some discomfort in the right breast and while checking my breast one night in Feb I felt a large mass. Which brings me to today....after mammograms, ultrasound, biopsies and a mri I have DCIS in the right breast. I was fooled I believe at first. It was down played as being just pre cancer. Once I learned more about and my options, I dont feel any different than a cancer patient. My whole world has been turned upside down and I am only 31. I cry so much out of fear. I fear that my days are numbered here on this earth with my husband and my children. Every ounce of pain I receive I am fearing the worse that the cancer has spread. I am scheduled for surgery/reconstruction on April 20th two days after my 32 birthday. As of now I am getting a masectomy of the right breast and depending on my genetic results will determine if I will take the left also. I am also still debating about using my own fat or implants. It just saddens me that my once happy life has changed so much so fast. I am scared to drink with my girlfriends, eat certain foods, etc. I told me husband instead of living my life I now feel like I am just surviving.
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Nurse143, I am sorry that you have to deal with this. It can be very scary, uncertain, and overwhemling all at once. What I can tell you is that this site helped me when I was diagnosed, actually more than anyone else in my life. We are all here for you!
Ask lots of questions and be sure that what ever you decide after surgery feel right to you (given the situation). Sending you a big hug and lots of support.
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Nurse143: I have gone through everything you are describing except that I was not so young at dx. My heart aches for what you are going through. Your journey will be uniquely your own, but if my experience can help, here goes. I worried about every ache and pain, convinced that it had spread. I studied everything and lost 50lbs., quit drinking, ate only certain organic foods and walked 7km daily with my sweet dog, Sam. And I walked myself straight into a nervous breakdown! First of all, studies indicate that most women totally over estimate their likelihood of ever dying from DCIS that progresses to something more challenging. Most women dx with DCIS in fact live or outlive women with no dx due to improved lifestyle choices following dx. Secondly, you cannot eat healthy enough or walk far enough to guarantee that cancer will not affect your life. But it can improve your chances. So in returning to my new normal, and regaining my mental health, I found a balance based in facts and not fears or fantasy that I could control this. Your chances of living to see your children reach old age is terrific. You will find a new normal that is awesome. Your lifestyle will change for the better and you will learn to appreciate the good in life and exclude the toxic. But you need to live and enjoy life, not only for yourself, but for your family. I feel better than ever and enjoy my wine again on a regular basis. I kept to eating very healthy (easy for me) and keep walking daily (because Sam now wants to and I love my fit body), but I drink wine again because I love to and the actual risks are something I am prepared to accept. We cannot do everything perfectly. I have accepted my mx without reconstruction and still feel incredibly feminine and sexy. I almost forget I had cancer (it is cancer), and believe it , it used to consume me. This is a great source of information and support. I was on this site numerous times daily and now only check in once in awhile to see whether I can support someone with a similar dx or issues. It took three years for me to get here and you will also take time. Please find reassuring info and there is lots. Your future is bright and you will adjust to and accept what is happening. You will come out of the fog and the sense that you have lost yourself. You are there so breathe and cuddle with your family. And let us know how we can help you further. ((((hugs)))))
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Nurse,
I think that everyone feels a punch in the gut when a doctor says "Cancer" to them, regardless of whether they're Stage 0 or Stage IV. I would say this: DCIS is very treatable, and your chances of being here in five years is over 95%, practically 99%. Your treatment will undoubtedly consist of surgery, and also maybe hormonal therapy (if you're ER+). But, you will not get chemo or radiation unless the pathology from your surgery shows any invasive disease.
I think that as time goes by, your fear will lessen. Even though I was diagnosed at Stage III, I still knock a few back with my gal pals from time to time. Everything in moderation, of course, but things WILL get better. ((Hugs))
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hi nurse143, I felt the same exact way when I was diagnosed. I was scared to eat anything . I was worried what I ate was gonna have my tumor grow. After my mastectomy I was I bit more relaxed. I started little by little loosening up a bit. But I'm still a bit scared I don't really drink w my friends anymore . But once you have your surgery you will feel a little better. I'm having reconstruction soon and feel happy I'm moving on with this. You will feel the same I bet. Good luck.
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Nurse143 you've received some great advice already. We're all here for you!
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- Thank you all for your posts. I appreciate your advice about my situation and hearing your stories as well. Elainetherese that is what frightens me. I feel great that I have a good chance of being here in 5 years but thats also depressing as well. In 5 years I will only be 37. Two months ago I was hoping to live to see my 80s or 90s and now I am lucky to just see 37 😦. Its just a whole new way of living for me. I am just trying to prepare myself for these genetic results and my upcoming surgery. Has anyone used abdominal fat instead of an implant? Thats the way I was thinking about going but like with everything else....I have my fears. Also my back, chest and neck having been bothering me lately. I am praying that its just my anxiety and not anything worse. As mentioned now I am so paranoid that my cancer has spread.
- Thank you all for your posts. I appreciate your advice about my situation and hearing your stories as well. Elainetherese that is what frightens me. I feel great that I have a good chance of being here in 5 years but thats also depressing as well. In 5 years I will only be 37. Two months ago I was hoping to live to see my 80s or 90s and now I am lucky to just see 37 😦. Its just a whole new way of living for me. I am just trying to prepare myself for these genetic results and my upcoming surgery. Has anyone used abdominal fat instead of an implant? Thats the way I was thinking about going but like with everything else....I have my fears. Also my back, chest and neck having been bothering me lately. I am praying that its just my anxiety and not anything worse. As mentioned now I am so paranoid that my cancer has spread.
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Nurse143, if your final diagnosis is pure DCIS, then you will be here in 5 years... unless something else unfortunate happens. The 5 year survival rate for pure DCIS is 100%. As for what happens after that, well, the long-term survival rate for pure DCIS is in the high 90s - around 97% - 99%, depending on the study. In fact one of the more recent studies found that women diagnosed with DCIS tend to outlive women who have never had a diagnosis of DCIS or breast cancer.
In my case, I had over 8cm of DCIS that was multi-centric (i.e. it was all over my very small breast) and high grade with comedonecrosis (i.e. the most aggressive DCIS there is). Plus I had a microinvasion of IDC, so I was actually Stage I rather than Stage 0. I had a single MX and no other treatment. And here I am, 11+ years later, with no recurrence and no further problems.
The fears that you have are perfectly normal after a diagnosis - of any Stage. Any diagnosis is a shock to the system, and we all go through that, thinking that every ache and pain is a sign that the cancer is more advanced than what we've been told. But it's important to separate your fear from the reality of your diagnosis. If your final diagnosis is pure DCIS, your odds of being here when your kids become grandparents is just as good as it was before you were diagnosed.
Be kind to yourself over the next 3 weeks as you wait for your surgery. Good luck with your surgery. And fingers crossed that your final diagnosis turns out to be pure DCIS!
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Bessie,
Thanks so much for you response. So you only had a MX of one breast and that was it ? As of right now I am leaning to just removing my right depending on my genetic results. Since I am ER+ and PR + I will need to take Tamoxifen as well (I believe). Does anyone know of anyone that has done fat grafting and had negative results?
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Nurse, yes, I had genetic testing that was negative, and since I really didn't want to have the MX (I had just too much DCIS in a small breast so I had no choice), it was an easy decision for me to have the single MX and not go with a bilateral. That said, I was 49 and you are 31, and that could make a difference. With a BMX, while there remains a small recurrence risk and while it's still possible to develop a new BC (a new primary, unrelated to your previous diagnosis), the risk is relatively low - only about 1% or 2%. But with a healthy natural breast, the risk is higher, and the younger you are, the higher the risk, simply because you have more years of life ahead of you. At the time I was diagnosed, when I was 49, my oncologist estimated my risk to be diagnosed again, at some point during my life, to be about 22%. Today, 11 years later, my "remaining lifetime risk" is probably more like 17% - 18% - because I now have 11 fewer years left in my natural lifetime. I just had genetic testing done again, and again tested negative (this time I was tested for 20 possible breast cancer genes) and was told that my lifetime risk may now actually be closer to only 10%. For you, at 31, your risk, if you keep one natural breast (with natural sensations - that's a big advantage) will be higher. You should talk to your genetic counsellor and oncologist about this.
As for Tamoxifen, my oncologist actually recommended against it, suggesting that for me, at my age, the risks from the drug itself pretty much outweighed any benefit I'd get in terms of breast cancer risk reduction (protection for my remaining breast). I did my own research and ended up agreeing with him, and so it ended up that I had the UMX and nothing more. Some women who have a UMX do however opt to take Tamoxifen. With a BMX, if the final diagnosis is pure DCIS, Tamoxifen is not usually recommended, unless there are extenuating circumstances such as positive margins or the patient is BRCA positive. My suggestion is that you hold off on making any decisions about this until you have your genetic test results and final pathology results. Hopefully your final diagnosis remains DCIS, but there always is a possibility that the final diagnosis could be different, and that would change the treatment plan. So it's a bit premature right now to be making these decisions because you don't have all the information yet.
With regard to fat grafting, I had implant reconstruction with no fat grafting. I'd suggest that you take a look at the Reconstruction Forum on this board and maybe ask that question in a new post there.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks Beesie
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Hello.....so i just received my genetic results back( they tested for 9 strands associated with breast cancer) and everything came back negative. I have a sense of relief because I could possibly keep my left breast but also confusion because now I dont no why I have breast cancer...Has this happened to anyone else?
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Hi Nurse,
I too, tested negative on my genetic testing, but I've had breast cancer twice - they believe the second time was a new cancer, not a recurrence. I have no family history and few risk factors.
Genetics can predict, but don't always tell the whole tale.
Some of us are just unlucky.
Grouch
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Nurse143, BreastCancer.org states that it is currently believed 5-10% of bc is caused by genetic factors:
http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/genetics
which correlates with several other sites. Now, genetics researchers and geneticists are still finding new genes that increase risk for many different types of cancer, so that number may be slightly off, but it would be very difficult to believe that the number would ever go up enough to account for the majority of bc. So the vast majority of us don't have an increased genetic risk.
So most of us don't know why. We just know that we do/did and work with our providers on a treatment plan to get rid of it and try to keep it from ever bothering us again. You can do this. You have found an awesome place for experience, wisdom and support; no matter what your diagnosis or treatment choices are.
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groucho2....wow. that is my fear of a new cancer appearing in my left. Due to the size of my tumor I have to have a mx of the right in two weeks. I was going to have the left done as well but since my genetic results came back neg they said I have a 15 to 20% chance of a new cancer occuring in the left so I may just monitor it and hope for the best. Mtwoman I see that you had DCIS just like me and it looks like you only had a MX to the right so I am hoping that is my outcome as well......just shy of my 32 birthday I would really like to keep one of my breast but I would give it up in a heartbeat to increase my chances!!!!
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yeah, I had multi-focal disease, so my lx turned into mx. I was 38 at the time, and had hoped for lx, so it was too much of a leap for me at the time to think bmx. I honestly didn't give much thought to what my risk would be for my remaining boob, so now have to stay vigilant with mammos
Whatever choice you make that feels like the right thing for you IS the right thing. We all have to decide what our personal risk is and how much risk we are willing to live with.
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Hi, Nurse!
First, I'm so sorry you have to be here. I'm sorry you have a diagnosis that none of us ever wanted. Luckily, we can offer some support for you.
I'm 41 and was diagnosed with DCIS in late February. After various tests, mine was determined to be multi-centric and I'm scheduled for a single MX with reconstructive surgery next week. My genetic tests were negative and my breast surgeon didn't recommend removing the left breast as a preventative measure. I feel very at peace with my decision. Will I question it some? Probably. But, I'm choosing not to dwell on what "could" happen. Everyone is different, however, and I understand some are just not comfortable with that mentality. I'm not usually very good at offering advice so I can only say, make the decision that feels right to you and know that you have a large support system right here! ((HUGS))
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Buffyjc I am sorry you are going though this as well. Looks like we are kind of in the same boat. I am now deciding on whether or not i want to use an implant, my own fat, or a combination of both. I feel like there are pros and cons to all decisions. How are you going about getting your reconstruction done?
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Hi Nurse, I'm sorry you're facing this. I know what you are going through right now. You will get through this! I am 33 and I have a 2.5 year old (I also had mastitis with an abscess after he was born). I was diagnosed with 4+cm DCIS in January and I've had a unilateral mastectomy. I know how scary and difficult this can be...especially when you have little ones to take care of.
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Yesterday, I received a diagnosis of DCIS, high grade, solid and comedo types with associated calcifications. I'm being told that this is very curable, but all of the reading about recurrence likely within 5 years, I'm scared to death. I'm 42 years old, mother of twins. I'd love to connect with someone that has had the DCIS high grade diagnosis. What was your treatment? At first it sounded like it was going to be easy as far as treatment (lumpectomy, radiation, possible chemo) but after reading so many posts, I see a lot of mastectomies. This is all so new for me so I know I still have a lot of unanswered questions and I'm still waiting on test results. But still would Ike to connect with people that can relate
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Hi Renee, So sorry you've had to join our club! I'm one of those DCIS with mx maybe you've seen. I was 38 at the time and my first choice was lx + rads. I had my second opinion pathologist recommend an mri due to the architecture of my dcis (it frequently presents as multi-focal/multi-centric). I got that recommendation back the actual day before I was headed into radiation mapping. Tough decision, but I postponed the rads and got the mri, which found 2 more areas of concern in different quadrants. Once they were biopsied and also found to be DCIS, the mx was recommended as you can only perform a limited number of lx on the same breast and get a "good cosmetic outcome". I did not have to do rads after the mx, however, and no tamox for me as I was TN. If I had not gotten the mri, and had gone into rads with the 2 areas still intact, it is possible that I would have been one of those women who had a recurrence. All of the extra imaging and biopsying (and waiting) took over a month, but I am glad I took the time to do it. And now, I am 14 years NED (no evidence of disease)!
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Thank you so much for reaching out. So you had your results read by a 2nd opinion pathologist? I'm trying to figure out who and when to get the 2nd opinion. Surgery consult on Monday.
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Okay, so for me, DCIS seemed like the best possible bc diagnosis, so I wanted to be doubly sure that nothing had been missed. I used Michael Lagios for my second opinion. He literally wrote the book on DCIS. I'll put a link to his consultation service website here:
http://breastcancerconsultdr.com/
He gave me a much more comprehensive path report than my local hospital where I had my lx.
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Hi ReneeF,
I had high grade DCIS w/ Comedo Necrosis. My surgeon wanted an MRI before surgery. The MRI did not find additional areas of concern. So I had a lumpectomy followed by Mammosite Radiation and a trial of tamoxifen.
If you haven't read Beesie's posts on DCIS (a layperson's guide to DCIS) and the lumpectomy+ rads vs. mastectomy decision (scroll down on the first page in "this thread" to Beesie's post), I would recommend them. Lots of good information there to help you make the decisions that are right for you.
I would strongly suggest that you take your time and consider carefully. You can always get a mastectomy later, but you can't un-do it.
My best wishes in making the decisions that are right for you!
My best wishes!
LisaAlissa
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thank you so much! Although I want to deal with this head on and be done, I will definitely consider all options. Thank you for the advice
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ReneeF, Hello. I am sorry about your recent diagnosis. Just being diagnosed a month ago at the age of 31, I understand your questions and concerns. I was so scared and I found comfort on this site. I as well as you hated hearing the term 5 year survival. I began to feel like I was now just surviving instead of living. I am now a week post op. After biopsies, an mri, plenty of research and a second opinion, I decided to go with a unilateral masectomy with immediate reconstruction using the diep technique. Since my left breast was normal, I decided to keep it. I had to do the masectomy because of the size of my dcis but i think i would have chosen that regardless. I was going to take both out of fear but at the last minute I decided not to. I tested negative for the gene so i decided to keep my left since i am so young. I am still fearful now but it has gotten better. Waiting on my pathology report. I am hoping no chemo is needed. I am now getting use to my new body which suprisingly I have been handeling very well. I just hope that I am cancer free!!
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Hi Renee
My DX was high grade DCIS / ER and Pr +. I had a lumpectomy followed by radiation and Tamoxifen. It all went very smoothly, all things considered. Side effects were, and continue to be, minimal. Best of luck on your DCIS "adventure".
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So MTwomen, you had dcis grade 2 and you still ended up with a mastectomy? It's so confusing, I'm being told lumpectomy for grade 3, with radiation an possible chemo. I know they don't know until they get in there, take it out, test lymph nodes, etc.....but I just question if I should be more aggressive? Or do I decide mastectomy and avoid the crap afterwards?
Thank you to all who have responded! It's a huge relief to be able to connect with women who are going/have gone through a similar, terrifying situation.
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RenneF I was diagnosed in August last year with DCIS Grade 3 with comedonecrosis. Because it was one smallish area I was able to have a lumpectomy. I also had rads - the MO said that LX without rads has a recurrance rate of around 30%. I am not sure if that figure still holds - Beesie might weigh in on that. I was not tested for ER/PR so hormone therapy wasn't even on the table. Pure DCIS is the 'best' diagnosis you can get if you're going to get bc. You'll get over the shock and eventually get to a point where you don't think about it all the time.
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hi Renee- there is a forum on the active topics listing for surgery, before during and after that has the header one in six women choose mastectomy. It's a good read especially some of the latest posts. for someone with your diagnosis you're likely deciding between mastectomy + hormone therapy if your cancer is er+ vs. lumpectomy + radiation + hormone therapy. Those were my choices with DCIS and idc stage 1 high grade with calcifications. In addition to some other factors that aren't relevant for your situation, I chose mastectomy so I didn't have to worry about heightened surveillance after and always having that feeling of dread waiting on results. The risk of a recurrence is very low with mastectomy followed by hormone therapy. I opted for immediate reconstruction using natural tissue (called DIEP flap reconstruction) and Im very happy with the results so far.
It's not an easy decision and no one else can make this one for you. The advice I can offer is to research all your options, look at before and after pics, talk with other women about why they made the decision they did and in the end go with the option that leaves you with a feeling of peace all things considered.
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I am just over a year since my treatment for DCIS...grade 3 with comedonecrosis. Had lumpectomy and radiation. Feeling just fine physically and it really is true that as time goes on, it isn't in the forefront of your thoughts anymore. I am curious about you mentioning chemo.... Do you mean something like tamoxifen? I don't think chemotherapy is generally given for pure DCIS.
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