Starting chemotherapy March 2017

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  • cathyoh65
    cathyoh65 Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2017

    Hi all, I'm so glad that I found this site about a week ago. As I'm sitting here on the eve of my first chemo (AC x4) I have all the same emotions going on that I've read that others have gone through. From the time of my diagnosis on Jan 24, I've said I'm not sick and my biggest fear on this journey is being sick. That is my biggest fear of going through chemo is being sick. For one I don't have time for that and then being sick just makes me angry and sad. I've read so many helpful hints and am looking forward to having it over with. I am quite worried though about one point and that is when speaking with the nurse, she said that no Benadryl or Claritin would be necessary and they only gave me a prescription for Compazine...will that be sufficient? Neulasta is also up in the air.

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited March 2017

    cathyoh65,

    I must emphasize being realistic and practical.

    I kinda visualized that I may have GI issues and itches/rashes. I think even though my first one was tolerable after everything said and done. It was rough on my body. I know I walked at least 20 per any given day since chemo. None of my side effects are major enough or everlasting. But as soon as one dissipated another one came right after.

    About neulasta. you stock up tylenol and any type of antihistamine. I was so afraid that I might scratch my port out one night if it was not for zyrtec i took i used a lot of menthol spray for bone pain. Because i did not know or did not think neulasta is a bleep. I hate neulasta but I know i have to suck it up. It is crucial to have WBC counts up. I heard my onco telling infusion nurse that patient cannot have chemo that day. For whatever reason, if it gets untolerable there are alternatives. My understanding is the SE days are spread a lot more than neulasta.

    Lastly, you have to sleep and eat after each chemo. I forced my food down without any throw up. I still dropped 6 pounds just like that. Mild GI issue still continues so i probably would a bit more. What I am trying to say is about 5 days or so, all SE would be residual enough.

    p.s. Everytime i get slightly down, i think of my mom whose ovarian bomb exploded 20 plus yrs ago. She was given a yr max at that time. Medicaid gave her taxol txs. About 10 yrs ago, she was hit with BC bomb this time. Thank god for medicaid again. She is 85 and still kicking. Her body will be donated for medical research but family does not think it will happen any time soon.


  • Alert2017
    Alert2017 Member Posts: 14
    edited March 2017

    Denise- G do you know if you have to ice your entire hands / feet or can you basically just do fingers and toes? My hands are slightly weak from my taxol + herceptin treatment,so I want do the icing tomorrow. I have all the paraphernalia ready, but i would love to not have to do the entire extremity.

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2017

    alert2017--you and I are on the same treatment path path ( I also had micropapillary histology ) --how is your taxol and herceptin going beside what you mention above? I myself haven't don't any icing --as it seemed to add to the discomfort of treatment, so don't have any tips to share on this point but my understanding is that it is the hand and the foot

    .https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/nail-cooling-during-treatment-taxane-based-chemotherapy


    Let me know how your treatment is going otherwise as you and I are basically on the same schedule

  • Alert2017
    Alert2017 Member Posts: 14
    edited March 2017

    HI tara, I;m going tomorrow for #4. My biggest issue was refux from the steroid pre-chemo infusion, which led to queasiness for a week. I was reprimanded by MO for making do! She and the chemo nurses came up with a variety of pills and combinations that got rid of the reflux and nausea. I still have all my hair ( i have medium fine hair) and no other SE except for this sudden weakness in my hands. If I wasn't typing all day, I wouldn't have even noticed. i also have insomnia that night after Chemo. I take a xanex or ambien that night ( IM flying from the steroid) Other than a very slight disinterest in certain foods, I feel fine. I have worked, walked and gone to the gym. LIke you , I have no interest in icing, but this is really hindering my typing. I am drinking water like crazy and they weakness has dissipated slightly. What about you? I:m thankful everyday I am on this protocol compared to the others.

  • kimburke
    kimburke Member Posts: 34
    edited March 2017

    Hi Ladies,

    Did my second Chemo on Friday , was busy all day Saturday around the house. Sunday was a day of rest for me, Thats what my body told me to do. Monday and Tuesday were a bit harder. Tired, headache, bone pain, loss of appetite, no taste buds. And just plain miserable and snappy. Still taking the Alleve for the bone pain and headache and it has been helping. Started feeling a little better, once I started eating more regularly again. Have to force to eat, even though I am not tasting anything. Got my first night of good sleep , last night , so I feel better with that rest as well. I still have some fuzz on my head and my scalp is very visible. I had expected the hair to be totally gone by now. The hair all over my body is still present. I got tired of waiting for the underarm and leg hairs to fall out, so I shaved them. lololololol

    WGraf - How did your session go? Hope you are well and it wasn't too hard.

    Tara17- Well said, at your outlook at this disease and how it will change our lives. But do not let it define you. It is so much easier to speak with people who are having the same experience, or who have gone through it.Positive Support is so important to all of us.

    carolina_girl63- How are you doing now? Did the constipation pass? When is your next treatment?

    bruinvol10 - how are you doing post first treatment?

    Lordhelpmetoo - How are you? Getting ready for the third treatment now?



  • Soxfan75
    Soxfan75 Member Posts: 115
    edited March 2017

    Tara17 - My next treatment is April 13th. It feels so far away, I wish I could just get it all over with.

    Kimburke - I'm sorry you're having such a tough time, but I'm glad you're listening to your body. I was soooo looking forward to free Brazilians and no leg/armpit shaving for a while. I probably won't get so lucky either. LOL

    So far after the first round of chemo I've experienced mild nausea, dry mouth, mild fatigue, periodic twinges in my bones, and quite possibly the worst side effect, my tongue feels like it does when you eat or drink something too hot. All in all, I can't complain. I had to force myself to go to the gym today though. I felt better once I got there, but I'm disappointed at how tired I get so easily. Pre-mastectomy I was running 3 miles a day, but now I find myself winded on the elliptical after 15 or 20 minutes. It's so frustrating.

    I also think I may have developed a UTI, although I've never had one so I'm not entirely sure. I have to call the doc in the morning to address it before it gets worse, especially since I didn't get the Neulasta shot this round.

  • kimburke
    kimburke Member Posts: 34
    edited March 2017

    Soxfan75,

    i know what you mean about easily winded. Seems its par for the course, so we are expected to just deal with it, and we do. its learning the new normal, until this normal changes again. I too, find it very aggravating. I have ants in my pants, generally.

    Tip- Try to have a meal every 4-6 hours, with a healthy snack in between. This helps me more too . ( rolls eyes, I had horrible eating habits before chemo). I use high protein drinks (35mg) in my frozen fruit smoothies with oats, and nuts and dried raisins and cranberry as snacks.

    The free Brazilians! Yup , I second that one . Lolololol

    Chemo SE, sounds similar to what i experienced. Yup, you are lucky. Count your blessings

    UTI - *raises hand* , had one of those after first treatment, even with Neulesta shots. Got antibiotics, but I also have a cup of water with a teaspoon of baking soda, in the mornings on an empty stomach. That helps a lot. And I still try and do, most mornings. My water intake daily exceeds my bladder capacity and mobility to the bathroom.

    Halfway there, 2 down, 2 to go!

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited March 2017

    kimburke,

    Are you part of our FB group

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited March 2017

    kimburke,

    Yes, getting ready for my #3 tomorrow. Started taking my steroids this AM

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2017

    alert 2017--glad you have a good doctor who is addressing all your complaints. I completed treatment #4 --have lost half my hair, had also developed neuropathy for which I am on meds and developed terrible muscle and joint pains --but also addressing with meds. So going one day at a time. I wish you continued luck with your treatments!


    Soxfan 75--I understand how it seems that there is so much more to go, but look how far you have come!

    Lordhelpmetoo--all the best for # 3 tomorrow!

  • Soxfan75
    Soxfan75 Member Posts: 115
    edited March 2017

    kimburke - I do the high protein drinks as well. I'm on the small side (105 lbs) and I'm trying to make sure I don't lose any weight.

    Quick question... What does the water/baking soda do to help a UTI? I've heard of Vitamin C, but not baking soda.

    Lordhelpmetoo - Good luck on round #3!

    Tara17 - Love the positive thinking. Thanks!

  • MommyErin
    MommyErin Member Posts: 187
    edited March 2017

    Hi Ladies,

    About 3 or 4 days post-chemo I broke out in acne all over my face, chest, and back (tiny red whiteheads...annoying and a little painful). I'm assuming it's from the steroids I was taking the 5 days around chemo. Anyone else deal with this? Did they go away on their own or did you treat them topically/orally?

    And for any runners in the group, how is running with the port? Ok? Too weird?

    Sending positive energy to all of you!

    Xo,

    Erin

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2017

    Hi Mommy Erin -- I too had a similar rash --the Doctor said it was the taxanes. It can also be the herceptin --so it's best to report to the doctor. My rash wasn't too bad, just annoying, so I used coconut oil (skin also very dry) and it's pretty much gone away. Different things may work for different people, so def report this to your nurse or doctor .


    Sending good wishes for a good weekend to the whole group before the next week of facing chemo begins! Treatment #5 for me on Monday !

  • kimburke
    kimburke Member Posts: 34
    edited April 2017

    Soxfan75 , The baking soda helps to neutralize the acidity in your urine , during a UTI and lessens the discomfort and burn you feel when the pee is exiting. There is also apple cider vinegar remedy, i havent tried it though. Check this link . http://www.healthylifetricks.com/how-to-treat-a-ur...

    Lordhelpmetoo- I hope you are doing well, after #3 treatment. Waiting on your check in report.

    Tara17 - Good luck on treatment #5!!!

    OMG! I have discovered Biotene, mint flavor. I am in heaven. I have been rinsing with this horrible local non alcoholic mouthwash that leaves a bad taste in my mouth for a while. In the morning . asap I am heading back to the pharmacy to get 3 more bottles of the Biotene.

    Positive vibes and energy to my fellow chemogirls !


  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited April 2017

    Even though I started taking Lorezapam daily, I feel blessed to have tolerable #1 chemo.

    The fact that my period came on for the last week, SEs have to be discounted. p.s. I was furious about it though. My period usually burns tremendous amount of calories. I cant eat the way i used to. So I lost weight again due to pernod.

    #2 tomorrow. Started taking tylenol, claritin since yesterday. Darned it I better see huge benefit from neulasta.

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited April 2017

    Kimburke --thanks for your good wishes! Treatment # 5 done, 7 more to go --so almost half way there. Nurse stuck me twice again. :( but she was very sweet and nice about it, so oh well. Started havign hot flashes due to lupron ---not a fun symptom at all! When is your next treatment ?


    Rebamacfan123 --definitely hoping for great benefit from neulasta for you!

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited April 2017

    soxfan,

    What kind of high protein drinks do you use? Or make? Are you part of out FB groups too

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited April 2017

    kimburke,

    Today is day 4 after infusion. Not feeling too energetic. Pretty much staying in bed. Day 3-4 are rough.

  • MommyErin
    MommyErin Member Posts: 187
    edited April 2017

    Tara17- Yay for almost being half-way done! You got this! Re my acne/rash, I did bring it up to my onc. He prescribed Doxycycline for 7 days and said I could use benzoyl peroxide or salicylic acid (typical otc acne cream), so I've been using the former. It's going away, but slowly. Hoping if I'm proactive it won't be as bad after my second treatment.

    Lordhelpmetoo- Hang in there! Days 3-4 were rough for me as well.

    Rebamacfan123- Sending positive thoughts your way!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited April 2017

    did #2. Kept saying to my hubby i am going to principals office. Onco was glad to see the blood test numbers. Lost 9 pounds despite good food intake. WBC and neutro #s were pre BMX level. I will gladly take neulasta. Had two boxed lunches at the infusion ctr. Oh another piece of info is my glucose 147 two wks ago. Today it was 93. The only thing i did different is drinking ginger tea. I ate everything. OJ boost chickfila. etc No lemon no honey. Even though i know it is going to hit me hard in 36 hrs, I am happy #2 is done. 6 more to go!

    Time to do self message.

  • MommyErin
    MommyErin Member Posts: 187
    edited April 2017

    For those worried about their nails, I was just told that tea tree oil applied to the nail bed can help. Started it today so we'll see!

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited April 2017

    mommyerin --Thnks for the encouragement! Glad you found a solution for your rash --it's all about being proactive I find when it comes to managing side effects -- let me know how it goes . For my nails, I have been using coconut oil applied to the cuticles and nails with good results so far. Am sure tea tree oil is good too.

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited April 2017

    Tara,

    I've also been applying coconut oil in my nails before bedtime. Seems to be working

  • Bethany3
    Bethany3 Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2017

    Hi everyone!

    I read a few posts on this thread about a FB group. Could I possibly be added to it?




  • Soxfan75
    Soxfan75 Member Posts: 115
    edited April 2017

    Lordhelpmetoo - I used to make my own protein drinks, but I've gotten lazy and have been buying the Boost High Protein as well as a high protein yogurt smoothie. I really should get back to making my own though. I'm not part of the FB group. What's the name of it?


  • kimburke
    kimburke Member Posts: 34
    edited April 2017

    Tara17 what does the coconut oil do , for your nails?

  • Tara17
    Tara17 Member Posts: 386
    edited April 2017

    Kimburke - was scared of taxol side effects on nail and especially when what I was told about possibility of nail bed infection - apply the coconut oil liberally to to my cuticles and nails and wear gloves for a bit --so far so good as cuticle and nail health is concerned. Due for dose # 6 of planned 12 treatmentsof taxol/herceptin on this Monday

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited April 2017

    finally I can function after #2. Claritin had side effects headache and diarrhea. Lost another 2 pounds. Started eating again. I swore to my DH I am going to be a cantankerous wifey when i get old. Lost more than 50% of hair. Started practicing turban wraps. Have mom s lucky scarves for good luck. (Ovarian and BC survivor. 20 plus ad 10) more wraps coming from amazon. Think of better strategies for #3

  • Prue_pueng
    Prue_pueng Member Posts: 17
    edited April 2017

    Hi

    I'm at day 17 after 2nd chemo. Will the hair stop falling at some point or it will continue until non left? I'm now having about 50% left and today it fall in clamps (again)

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