Radiation Therapy 10 X to develop Second Primary Lung Cancer

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Women Getting Breast Cancer Radiation Therapy 10 Times More Likely to Develop Second Primary Lung Cancer

I have to say this article has upset me to my core. I just want to scream!

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  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited February 2017

    I hear your scream. My friend's mother died from lung cancer after breast cancer treatment...but the good news was she was out 20 years from breast cancer. STUPID CANCER!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2017

    I take the article with a grain of salt (I have to; else I'd probably die from fear of all the bad news, and not something else). Research didn't report whether women were smokers or not, nor did it report on type and strength of rads. I know, I'm trying to make myself feel better. And I wish this article defined "older women". What does that mean?

    What about environment? Did these women live in areas where there is more air pollution, too? Did they live with a smoker (second-hand smoke)?

    For now, I have to tell myself I'm doing everything I possibly can to keep myself safe. With a damn check up coming this Monday a.m., I'm always apprehensive at this time anyway.

    Hugs/love to all my bc ladies. We are all doing the best we know how to do to keep this crap out of our lives again.

    <3

    Claire

  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited February 2017

    "10 times more likely" is the relative risk. Only 2.25% of women in the radiation group actually went on to develop a 2nd primary lung cancer, which is approximately 10x the 0.23% who didn't have radiation and got lung cancer. That's 10x <1% when you look at the absolute numbers, which isn't a high risk. Looked at another way, women who had radiation have a 97.75% absolute risk of NOT getting lung cancer. I think those are pretty good odds if radiation is known to reduce your statistical risk of recurrence. A lot of us don't get odds that good for the return of our breast cancer.

    "In total, 7,408 women with breast cancer participated in the study, of which 5,695 had undergone radiation therapy and 1,713 had not. In the radiation group, 127 patients (2.25 percent of the total) developed lung cancer, as did four patients (0.23 percent) of the non-radiation group."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2017

    Solfeo,

    Excellent analysis!

    Don't panic ladies!


  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2017

    The following paragraph from the report is significant:

    "Yet the study had limitations that could influence their data, researchers said. In particular, the LHID did not specify its criteria for breast cancer staging. It was unclear whether patients had developed lung cancer on the same side they had received prior radiation. Nor could researchers determine the radiation type, dosage and other factors, like smoking, from the LHID."

    Based on the above, plus Solfeo's number crunching, I'm not going to give it another minute's thought. I probably did more damage vising smoky jazz clubs in my 20s than was inflicted by radiation. (Of course, going out to enjoy music was a lot more fun than radition. ;) )

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited February 2017

    Solfeo - thank you!! I will now delete this article from my worry list.

  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited February 2017

    It wasn't much of an analysis, it was right there in the article. And that would be the exception rather than the rule, because most similar articles will only alarm you with the relative risk, and fail to mention the actual number of people affected was very small. That's why I always try to at least glance at the actual studies.

    It's always about risks vs. benefits and that equation will be different for every person. If you have a less than 2.25% chance of benefiting from radiation, then the lung cancer risk might be something to at least consider, along with other risk factors. As we know, every treatment comes with its pros and cons and it is up to the individual to determine which risks they are more comfortable with.

    If it was me I would have chosen radiation if it had been recommended, hoping that my much healthier lifestyle and new found physical fitness would protect me from a new primary. Damaged cells can heal/die before a certain turning point. I know healthy people do get cancer but I will do everything in my power to improve my odds. That's really all any of us can do.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited February 2017

    I will not delete this from my worry list - although I'll try to consign it to a bottom drawer. Since I've already beat the small percentage odds and had a recurrence, and then was unlucky enough to be in the small percentage who get lymphedema, and unfortunately also the other small percentage who get CIPN & dead feet, I take everything with a grain of salt.

    Like all the other possible problems & side effects, I'm trying to put them aside once again and move forward with my life in the 'new normal' mode. Still, I'll scream for a minute with cp418 before moving on, and keep this in my memory banks to bring out if I develop issu

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