Anyone.Starting Chemo in October 2016?
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Thanks, bravepoint. Sadly, her pathology report is very discouraging.
Kate, thank you for the thoughtful note. I'm sorry that we share financial challenges. If I'd been able to work until my 62nd birthday as planned, I would be in decent shape to weather this storm. I never anticipated a forced disability retirement and having my income slashed by over 60% at age 42. Ironically, that was about the time I paid off my last student loan. I guess we think if we sacrifice to get a good education, work diligently and live frugally, we'll achieve the American dream. We're hardly the first to have our finances destroyed by health issues and, unfortunately, won't be the last.
I'm very lucky that a dear friend set up a GoFundMe last year. I was touched that friends helped me with donations, but was a far more modest amount than you mentioned. I just hate to ask for help again and people are probably tapped out. :-(
I was very relieved to get approved for help with the co-pays on my chemo drugs, but it didn't cover my port replacement surgery, skin cancer biopsy, eyelid infection treatment nor will it address upcoming rehab therapy, radiation, etc. My oncologist isn't associated with a hospital so I don't have a social worker, but need to revisit available resources. Thank you for the link.
I hope you and your daughter both get the help you need. You're clearly a kind and compassionate person deserving of good things.
Lyn
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Dear Kate and Lyn - I am sorry to hear about the financial issues. A layer of the process you definitely don't need.
Lyn, how is your dog Katie, doing? What are her/your options? I would ask you your friend to update the GoFundMe with your new situation. I don't know what the rules are on this site but I would appreciate it you would PM with the link for the page.
Connie - how are you doing?
As for me, I had may last chemo yesterday. Imaging and scans this week in order to meet with my surgeon next Tuesday. I hope to walk away with a date for my lumpectomy.
hugs and prayers to you all - Kathy
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I'm doing fine all things considered! 4 more chemos to go and then radiatin
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Kathy / KLNiss, your final chemo DONE. WAHOOOO! Please let us know what the surgeon recommends after viewing the scans. Fingers crossed for a lumpectomy.
You're so sweet to express concern about Katie and me. She seems to feel fine. Since she's almost 12 years old and my personal circumstances are challenging, I don't think it's logical to pursue chemo for her. Interestingly, dogs seem to tolerate chemo far better than we humans. Since it's relatively inexpensive & doesn't require a specialist, the vet did chest and abdominal X-rays. Other than a slight protuberance over the spleen, nothing was disclosed so I hope that means she'll still enjoy some quality time with her "sister" and me. :-)
I don't recall if I mentioned that I found a radiation oncologist who offers prone position and is receptive to the shorter "Canadian" protocol. The location isn't nearly as convenient, but with my generous bosom and a left-side tumor, I think the prone positioning will best protect my heart and lungs.
Hang in there, Connie!
Lyn
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Lyn, the prone position radiation is something I intend to ask about when I meet with the radiation dr in April. Do you know how many treatments are the norm for this? I wasn't aware that this even existed when I met with her in the beginning but understand that it is available at Mayo where I'm going. I knew it was a shorter period than the 30 regular radiation treatments but haven't been able to find just how many treatments that is
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Hello Octo-chemo ladies
I'm 5 weeks PFC and I seem to be more tired than before (during chemo).... Glad to see everyone is done/almost done. each and everyone of you is in my daily prayer., keep pushing on girls
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Sorry that you're still fighting the fatigue issues, Dee. I think some ladies said it was three months after chemo before they started to feel more normal.
Connie, I don't think the prone position affects the number of treatments. Rather, some radiation oncologists are open to the shorter protocol while others continue to use the traditional 33 sessions. Frankly, if the doctor offering the prone position thinks that my large breast size means she doesn't think I'm eligible for the shorter treatment, I may have to go with the original doctor despite the greater risk to the heart and lungs.
My doctor is leaving it up to me whether to do Taxol #11 and/or #12. My nail beds are really tender, the neuropathy has been constant in my right / dominant hand and fleeting in my left hand and toes plus an odd "stocking" feeling on the soles of both feet, I'm still having the weird vision stuff and the pain in my encapsulated shoulder is stinky. Killing cancer cooties ain't for sissies, is it?
I have a Lymphedema evaluation on Monday. Ugh!
Hang in there, ladies. I hope your weekend includes something FUN!
Lyn
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I've been MIA for a bit so sorry for the delayed response.
VLH - I'm sorry about your dog. I can only imagine how much harder it must be to go through your own medical issues and trying to help your dog through as well. I'll say a prayer for sure.
KLNiss - Congrats on finishing chemo!!! You must feel great.
Hopefully you're recovering well.
Personally, I had my lumpectomy 3 weeks ago and have had just a few minor complications. I can definitely tell it's taking me much longer to heal up from everything (than it did before I'd undergone chemo). No talk yet on when I might start radiation. And to be honest, I'm not really sure I want to do radiation, though I'm sure they'll tell me it's for the best. I just want to go back to normal living and not have some many medical appointments (or medical bills) that I have to keep track of.
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Just curious how many of us that started last October are still going thru chemo. I am! It sure has been a long haul. I have 2 more weeks i.e 2 Taxol treatments to go. I can finally see light at the end of the tunnel.
Gail
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I have 4 weeks of chemo left. I'd be done if I hadn't had to have 3 cancelled at one time and 2 at another. I'm really having emotional issues....breaking out in tears and can't even tell you why. Then radiation will start....starting to wonder if life will ever seemanything resembling normal again.
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Connie- You're not alone so hang in there! I didn't miss a single treatment since October 7th and am still going for chemo. Almost 6 months start to finish. I find little things make me cry too. Emotionally, you get just get stretched to your limits. It has gotten better the past week so hopefully it will for you too. My rads start April 18th for 29 treatments. We'll probably going thru that together as well.
Hugs to you,
Gail
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Hi Gail - I just finished this week. You are almost done! That's great.
K
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It sure is KLNiss! The home stretch.
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Thanks, Fighting. Katie doesn't have any symptoms at this point so that's good. With my history of cellulitis and given that I've had chemo-related skin stuff, I'm dreading radiation. The recurrence rate with triple negative cancer is scary or I would be tempted to skip it.
Connie, I don't think answered your question about how many treatments with the shorter Canadian protocol. The radiation oncologist that I saw for a very preliminary consultation back in August said 15 regular treatments +1 boost. I hope I'm remembering that correctly. Since he doesn't offer the prone position, I have an appointment with a different radiation oncologist on March 22nd and we'll see what she says. Here's the link that talks about the shorter protocol:
https://newsatjama.jama.com/2013/09/20/study-confi...
Six months is tough, Gail. I hope radiation goes smoothly for you.
Lyn
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Thanks, Lyn. I've never heard of the shorter Canadian protocol for radiation and I'm in Canada. I wasn't offered it. I'm down for 29 treatments....
Gail
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My chemo ends March 27th. My appt. with the radiation oncologist is April 10th. I knew nothing about the prone position radiation until the chemo nurse practitioner mentioned it because I had a breakdown thinking radiation wouldn't be done so that I could go to my oldest grandson's high school graduation June 2 clear up in Cleveland. The tears started coming and that poor lady didn't know what to do with me....rofl. That's been my target all along....get me through this so I can go to that. When that was in jeopardy, I lost it. Of course, I don't know if they'll consider doing it but I do know they do offer it. As we'll be driving 1 1/2 hrs each way for radiation, the shorter protocol sure would be nice but she never mentioned the possibility when we met with her last fall and I have no clue why or why not.
Lyn, I have triple negative also. I cannot even imagine going through this again. I am choosing to believe this will be the end of it and burying my head in the sand about percentages of reoccurrence for the time being at least.
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The initial guidelines regarding the shorter protocol excluded women who had chemotherapy, which struck me as peculiar since chemo is almost always done before radiation. Negative nodes makes more sense.
http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/benefits...
I don't think there's a lot of incentive for radiation oncologists to recommend the shorter protocol if we don't question then about it. Let's face it, they make more money if you endure more treatments. I'm not suggesting that profit is a motivation in every case. It may well be that the oncologist sincerely believes the standard that's been in place for many years offers the best outcome for women. I think they should be able to offer reasons why if they don't think the shorter protocol is appropriate.
Regarding the prone position, my concern is that radiation oncologist don't typically follow women for many years so they don't see the side effects that may be suffered beyond the weeks you're in active treatment. They see the short-term effect on your skin, for example but what about damage to the heart or lungs down the road? It's important to know that the odds of those complications are quite low, but in light of my breast size, why not make them even lower if possible? Arm positioning is going to be a challenge regardless because my stupid shoulder encapsulation is worse with the blasted lymphedema. Grrr!
Connie, this is all overwhelming so don't feel bad for one second about breaking down. Thus cursed cancer is a horrible thing that no one should have to face and you've had a very tough time of it. Be gentle with yourself.
Lyn
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, Lyn. I had a positive node and chemo so not short rads for me!
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I think virtually everyone has chemo first so I don't think that's currently being used to decide whether the shorter protocol is appropriate, but the positive node may be an issue, Gail. The idea of 30 daily visits when I'm so worn down makes me want to weep so I hope I qualify for the shorter plan.
I have to decide by tomorrow morning whether to have one more Taxol. :-p
I hope everyone has a good week.
Lyn
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Lyn - Don't you get some time to recover from chemo before rads? I have a month "off" in between.
Gail
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I'm not sure how quickly the RO will want me to start radiation. I'm planning to visit my family for the first time in three years and the medical oncologist wants me to wait three weeks to travel so I will have a bit of a break. I'll be going to Lymphedema therapy twice a week so it's not really a treatment vacation.
It's been over ten months since I found the lump and I believe I've only had two weeks without a medical appointment in all that time. The most minor exertion means a racing heart and labored breathing since my second AC back in October and I'm worn out so daily treatment send daunting. Poop!
Lyn
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my last chemo was supposed to be this Wednesday. However, my skin condition has gotten so bad in the past week (side effect from chemo) that it will be either cancelled completely or postponed. I was supposed to go last Friday for a mammo, ultrasound and appointment with my surgeon but that has been postponed because of my skin. I am not going to gross you out with it, but it covers my entire chest and breasts. I drive three hours each way today to see the dermatologist, the next again hopefully on friday for the scans and surgeon. If my scans are good, I will forgo the last chemo because I don't think I can make it through it. Energy is nonexistent most times.
The a/c has been tougher than the 12 weeks of perjeta, Taxol, herceptin, and even that wasn't a picnic. I'm sick of complaining and feeling crappy. Hopefully my skin will start looking more like . . . . Skin . . .soon and my scans will allow me to cancel my last chemo.
Congrats to everyone who is done, and everyone who is still hanging in. I wish energy for you, and optimism.
Nanci
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I'm so sorry to read about the skin issues, Nancy. That must be brutal. I don't blame you for stopping treatment early and hope your energy recovers quickly. AC was very challenging for me as well. I recall lying on the sofa freezing and not having the strength to sit up to grab the comforter.
I'd really hoped that the shortness of breath and racing heart would disappear once I switch to Taxol, but that hasn't been the case. Now I'm worried that the side effect will be permanent. I decided to do one final Taxol so at least I'll be able to put that chapter behind me. My Lymphedema is only grade 1. Yay! The idea of wearing a hot sleeve and glove in the Texas heat sounds horrible so I hope that I make good progress with therapy in the upcoming weeks before it's 95 humid degrees.
It's sad to watch our little group take such a battering, but we should be VERY proud of the determination we've shown during this difficult process!
Lyn
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And just like that, Taxol #12 is done. My onc moved my
normal Tuesday appointment to Monday in advance of the “snowmaggedin” that
never materialized in my neck of the woods. Glad they were able to accommodate &
I could stay on schedule however it was a bit anticlimactic – I was in a
strange center with nurses I didn’t know & who weren’t aware that it was my
last “active” chemo treatment (sounds like I’m having a personal pity party). I
had planned on cake & celebration with my normal team – will now be doing
that next Tuesday when I go back for the first 3 week dose of Herceptin alone.
Thankfully, I was able to get the bakery to store/freeze the cake for the week.Not sure how the others feel but to me, this “abrupt”
(though it’s been 5 months coming) end to active chemo feels weird. Part of me
is glad this leg of the journey is over but another part feels like I should be
doing more chemo to keep the cancer cooties at bay. Of course, when I said that
out loud to my onc, she looked at me like I had 3 heads and my husband just sat
there shaking his head. Guess I’ll get beyond this feeling as time passes. Next
up is radiology appointment (tomorrow) so I’ll know more about what that will look
like after that. Dreading the SE’s that will come with that – I’m one of those
fair skinned Italians – concerned about skin burning already. I hope I get a
good break in between – I’ve already booked a getaway to Maine with my husband
complete with a couple’s massage. Not giving that up for anything!!Lyn – how are you doing? Have you done your final Taxol?
Early on, my onc told me one of the SE’s for low hemoglobin is shortness of
breath & racing heart. I had it drilled into me every time my blood work
came back with lower than normal hemoglobin – mostly due to the thalassemia I have.
Might be something you want to check. How is Katie doing? Better I hope – just to
have one less thing to worry about at this point.Kate – how is radiation going for you?
Nanci – I do hope you’re feeling better. I started noticing
redness in my cheeks from time to time during the last couple of Taxol
treatments but nothing like you are experiencing. I hope you find relief soon and
can move ahead & get back on track.Connie – I hear you about losing it. I lost it a couple of
times – particularly during AC – I was so scared of catching something and
winding up in the hospital especially when the WBC was in the virtual toilet. I’ve
had enough of hospitals and appointments to last me a lifetime – the thought of
catching something and winding up in the ER scared the hell out of me – I broke
down every time I got the neutropenia talk.Hugs to all and here’s to more of us seeing the end of this
tunnel and moving forward.Julianne
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Ahh, Julianne, #12 over is such a big deal. I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever get there as low platelets caused me to miss another one. They are now totally discontinuing carboplatin so it will be taxol alone for the last 3. They're going to try for tomorrow if my darned blood cooperates.
One thing they never warned me about...until AFTER it happened....I was helping my husband move the fire pit so he could pressure wash the lanai and I heard and felt my back pop. The breast dept ordered X-rays and they say I need an MRI because of a possible compression fracture. However, I need to see a dr in the spine clinic and they have yet to call me for an appt. I hear that's the hardest dept to get an appt in and my patience has about reached it's limits. NOW they tell me that my body is so much weaker from the chemo that this isn't that unusual. If they'd only told me earlier, I wouldn't have even tried to move anything heav
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For cryin' out loud, Connie! You just can NOT get a break. I'm so very sorry. I was neutropenic after 3 of my 4 AC treatments, but no neutrophil or platelet issues with Taxol so I'll bet getting rid of the Carboplatin will do the trick. Keep us posted.
Yay, Julesbabe55!!! I totally get the anticlimactic thing as well as clinging to the chemo since it feels like you're actively chasing the cancer cooties. I did forego Taxol #12 at the other facility and my regular nurses clapped, threw confetti and gave me a t-shirt so that was nice. I couldn't believe it happened, but I managed to catch the loop of my IV on the wheel of the cart and ripped the darned needle right out of my chest during a potty break! All the times that fluids required a trip to the necessary room and I save that "faux paw" for my final treatment. I was fumbling for the little clamp & only later thought, "You dweeb, just pinch off the line until you find the gizmo." Doh! I used a Tide pen right away, but haven't been able to get the blood and poison stain out of my favorite no-iron, button down shirt so it must be deemed a sacrifice to the chemo gods. :-(
The trip to Maine and romantic massage sound perfect. Katie doesn't know she is sick at this point so I'm very grateful for that.
Thank you for mentioning the hemoglobin again. Mine has been consistently low (10-ish), but not far out of range so the doctor hasn't been overly concerned. She did get a test to determine if I would benefit from an iron supplement, but the results suggested that I would not. What kind of specialist do you see for your thalassemia? I'm wondering if I might be especially sensitive to marginally low hemoglobin? Since my echo came back not showing significant change from the baseline, I don't think this is a heart issue. Still, something is clearly going on when just waking briskly through my house, doing a load of dishes or taking a shower cranks my heart rate up to 100-115 bpm. I'm also concerned about the darned neuropathy becoming permanent, but remaining hopeful about that.
I had five blasted medical appointments last week and four next week so it feels like this stuff drags on and on. (I feel guilty saying that in front of you, Connie.) Next week is two lymphedema treatments, the initial consultation with the radiation oncologist who may be willing to do prone position & the shorter protocol plus my first diagnostic mammogram since all this "fun" started last May. I can't even consider that they might find something after all this nonsense. Picture a bald, "mature" woman with her fingers stuck in her ears, jabbering "I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't hear you!"
Lyn
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no chemo today either.....count just went from 53 to 56. Fingers are crossed that it will rise enough that I can have it Monday. MRI scheduled for Tues. but can't see dr til April 4th.
I don't think they have a bell or anything at Mayo so won't be any big hoopla when I finish....if I ever do....sig
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Darn, Connie!
Lyn
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Connie = So sorry you are delayed again.... My last treatment is this morning, assuming blood counts are all good.
Gail
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Gail, were you able to finish treatment?
Lyn
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