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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2017

    Wildtulip- you are getting a shot for the AIs now? Tell me more, inquiring minds want to know?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Jazzy, The shot is Zolodex, which shuts down the ovaries. I get it because I was pre-menopausal at Dx and I have to get the monthly shot in order to be on an AI instead of Tamox. Studies have shown that the combined hormone treatment (shot/AI) bring better long term results than Tamox for pre menopausal women. I'm on my 3rd AI now, so hoping I tolerate this one! How about you? How are you feeling?

    TGIF!!!

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited January 2017

    Hi Smaarty, you just need a little glass of wine and a bell by your side and you're all set

    Here's to getting those drains out !!

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2017

    JWow! Okay, I posted on her page... We have to keep track of her...

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited January 2017

    Been busy this morning getting back to my normal routine. Relaxing for now and will finish the daily housework with vacuuming my stairs. They need to be cleaned badly!

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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2017

    Wildtulip- oh okay, yes I know about that shot from other sisters.

    I had my feet worked on yesterday by my magical massage therapist and feeling good today!

    Mommy- you sound like you are feeling better from the recent procedure. Try not to overdue with housework

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited January 2017

    I stopped after the stairs. Felt good to be busy.

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited January 2017

    Hello friends!

    Feline, that video of the comedian is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.

    Ms. S, you do look flat and fabulous. You look slimmer too!

    Mommy, wow, you bounced back quickly! Good for you.

    Kirby boy is so cute!! Perfect size lap dog . Can't do that with Mitzy. She tried before

    Jwoo, that poor young mom. I think most of us here can relate to the anxiety. So far, everyone has very good advice for her. Will keep an eye on her.

    Jazzy, I don't think I let anyone massage my feet. I too ticklish.

    MamaJ, you always have a way of diffusing things.

    Hugs back to you WildT.

    Sensi, I laugh at your goofy pic. I can't believe you were a nanny at one time. I bet the kid(s) had fun.

    Shepk, how was vet visit with your babies?

    Sleep fairy is tapping her foot. Better go to bed. Nite nite. Morning Feline!

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited January 2017

    Kath I had to apply to DH for an explaination of twhat your Po doll said. Of course he got it straightaway.


    M0mmy I agree with the person who recommended you should go easy on the housework, but surely your stairs needed to be cleaned WELL


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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited January 2017

    They did

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited January 2017

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  • PoppyJQ
    PoppyJQ Member Posts: 109
    edited January 2017

    Magical massage therapist - Jazzy that really sounds amazing. Loverly may be too ticklish for the footsy massage so I'll take hers! Going to visit family today. SIL has a massage place she likes, will see if we can find time for it.

    Smaarty - Looking great, keep healing! Is that internet fabric shopping youre doing?

    Mommy - Vaccuming stairs done, now rest on the couch in jammies will ya

    Anyone use one of the meal delivery services? Like Freshly, Home Chef etc. If so which would you recommend? I received a couple of weeks with Green Chef free and like it but its over $90 a week because its all organic. Love it but but cant afford that right now. Even though I shouldnt have a long recovery with this next surgery it would be nice to have for a little bit.

    Have to decide, try to get back to sleep for a couple hours or go make coffee and start the day early...






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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Loverly, I'm with you..I don't like people touching my feet. How's your dad?

    Chevy, I have to admit..your story a couple of days ago about your car made me laugh out loud!

    Shep, How are you feeling?

    Poppy, Which surgery is next for you and when is it?

    My cold is a little better today, but I so wish I could just stay home tonight a rest. There is a birthday party for a friend of mine tonight and I'm bringing the cake. It's at a bar and the band does not start till 9:30, so it will be a late night. I slept in till 7 and will try to nap this afternoon. It will be fun to dance, and I'll definitely sleep in tomorrow!


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  • PoppyJQ
    PoppyJQ Member Posts: 109
    edited January 2017

    Wildt - Cake at the bar, you guys know how to celebrate! 9:30 is late but once youre there and "shakin it" that cold will disappear for a while. Oophorectomy and removing tubes on Feb 9th. Its laparoscopic and outpatient so not a biggie. It will be my 3rd surgery in 6 months so Ive been told that I might be a little more tired.

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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2017

    Poppy- my massage therapist does a combo of massage and foot reflexology, with ice and heat treatments too. I will tell you, he has a magic combo for my feet. I hope you can get a massage where you are going! He worked on my back too, that felt good as well!

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  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited January 2017

    Not doing much today except a load of dishes. Will do my laundry tomorrow

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  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited January 2017

    yeah, got my first shower this morning with DD. Doesn't look too bad. Probably a little concave but I don't think there's anyway around that. I will be glad when the drains come out. Hopefully on Tuesday, they're not discharging much. Very little pinging and zapping going on either. So I'm good. Finally managed to go #2. That always seems to be a problem with each successive sx. But I know what to take if I start having problems. Poppy, yes you'll probably be more tired and watch out for going to the bathroom. I always find it strange that no matter what part of the body is worked on, it's always connected to our bu?%#t.,, 😜

    Poppy, will DH be able to help you? It will feel like a mild sx but you need to remember to stay down for a couple weeks. That's usually my biggest problem. I'll feel good and go back to doing normal things. Not this time.

    Ok, I'm hungry, need to figure out something for lunch. Where's Susan? Hellllllloooooo!


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  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,437
    edited January 2017

    Smaarty, our digestive tracts are linked to our sympathetic nervous systems. That's why we have that "fight or flight" response when we're in danger or utterly stressed out. When faced with danger, our ancient ancestors would usually "drop a load," so to speak so they wouldn't be burdened with a troublesome full colon while trying to run away or attack something.

    Don't ask me how this relates to sx...I'm not a gastroenterology doc. Anesthesia slows the entire system down because we are essentially "put to sleep," and it takes a while for the gi tract to wake up. I'm posting this for the benefit of the new people here.

    As for me, everything makes me poop (diarrhea is more like it), so I have the opposite problem. I'd love a few days off the pot, frankly speaking.

    Zometa infusion slated for Monday, so I'll be back on the pot again, sigh. Imodium is my best friend these days ♡♡😉.


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  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited January 2017

    I haven't checked in in a couple of weeks, I think, not even sure when. I've been struggling with an issue that I finally just had to be done with.

    I've often told people, especially young women who thought they could change a guy, you have to choose your battles carefully, because you can't fight all of them at once. And in the end, you have to choose the hill you're prepared to die on. Little did I know how prophetic that would be for me.

    Some of you may remember the time my DH was hospitalized with liver problems. He was adamant that he had not been drinking to excess, maybe a glass of wine now and then. I made the decision to trust him, and he seemed to understand that with his liver condition, alcohol was a no-no.

    This summer I was dxed with lung mets, and in November with bone mets to my spine. By this time it had become clear that DH was drinking, secretly. After 30 years of marriage, you know. So when I sat him down to tell him about the bone mets (he wasn't at the doc with me) I told him the deal was that I would take treatment for the cancer as long as he stayed away from the booze. As soon as I found out he was drinking, I would stop treatment. This is the hill I choose to die on. If he doesn't stop drinking, it will kill him. I had little quality of life before cancer with all the things that couldn't be fixed. I can't support or take care of myself and really with the chronic fatigue, I have no motivation to.

    Two nights ago, after chemo, I opened the trunk of the car and found a box of wine. I grabbed it, took it to the den, and tossed it on the couch. He played innocent; didn't know it was there, or how long it had been there. Doesn't matter. I've seen him, especially on weekends, stumbling around here.

    I talked to my MO a couple of weeks ago that something like this might happen, though I didn't tell him about the alcohol, just that DH wasn't taking care of his health and I might stop. Of course he strongly urged me to reconsider, as the most important part of my treatment is always going to be my attitude. But this treatment has been brutal, to be frank. And I won't keep doing it if all it's doing is prolonging days of misery. All things considered, I think I have a great attitude. I mostly smile and joke with my caregivers, nurses, etc. I laugh a lot. But I can't keep up the charade at home, and that's where I'm stuck for now. I don't drive because I'm on strong opioids, and DH and cousin make sure one of them is always here because I fell once.

    Thank you for listening to the rant. I had to get it out

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  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited April 2017

    Rosevalley is finally at peace and in time fond memories will comfort the Family!

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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2017

    Oh Mags- I have no words here to say outside of I am so sorry that this is all so difficult. That being said, we all have to decide how much we can put up with on all fronts.

    We will be here to listen always friend. Wishing you better days and peace with all decisions


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  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited April 2017

    Mags,

    DH will do whatever............his choice!

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2017

    Mags, Hugs. I'm sorry it's not going well for you. You can think of yourself first and do what you think is best. Wishes for peace with your decisions.

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  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,437
    edited January 2017

    Mags, you have made a tremendously courageous decision and we will support you 100% of the way.

    At some point, all of us st 4 gals will have to decide when enuf is enuf. Eribulin is no picnic especially when you have other health issues to deal with. I see why you made your decision...if dh is too sick because of his liver, who is going to help care for you? The stress is too great. You need to concentrate on yourself now and get your affairs in order so you can relax and enjoy however much time you have left.

    This could be a very positive, freeing time for you, and you may even feel better without the toxins of chemo ransacking your body and zapping your energy further.

    Keeping you in prayer...


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  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited January 2017

    Mags, so sorry to hear this is happening to you. ((((HUGS)))) and prayers are sent your way.

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2017

    Mags.... Okay, I know, and understand. Just to tell you, that your life is more important than anyone elses! It doesn't matter what anyone else does...

    Your Husband can do what he wants... My Dad went through these endless periods of drinking, hiding it, telling Mom that water glass was filled with water, and not Vodka, and blah-blah. She stayed with him! She loved him and depended on him, thinking he was her life.... and he was.

    ONE time, she found "all" his bottles... She put them in a box, crawled under the house and hid them! He just bought more! She found them in his shed, in the flower pots, and he hid them everywhere.... He was an alcoholic all MY life! Thank God they moved to California before I got married.

    Your life is God's gift! You don't need all the stress the habits of your husband give you....It's just that they won't quit.... (for more than a week)...

    We are then their "enablers" ! My Mom said "I would rather have him part of the time than not at all"..... Your diagnosis is YOUR diagnosis.... He has no part of that... Your life depends on YOU to fight for it.... And not be bothered by what anyone else is doing.

    You can stay, or you can leave... Mom had that choice... she chose to stay... No matter how many "other" women, how much he drank, how much it affected OUR lives, or hers, she chose to stay, even through HER mastectomy.... He was hers, period.

    But to give up your life, to be a part of his problems isn't what I want for you.... If you choose to let his life control yours, it will hurt you, because you are giving up.... You have had a damn rough time of it... Some people are there to help you, and others just don't care.... So it's up to you.... to pray for guidance, and listen to other people who care and want you to stay in it, for the long haul.

    Now you just listen to me.... MamaJ.... and remember that YOU are in charge of your life.... not anyone else.... Stress will eat at you faster than any cancer can spread.... Maybe your treatments CAN be changed.... but your life is OUR gift! You take care of it.... for yourself!

    Be strong little Mags... If you think you just can't do it anymore, then that should not be determined by anyone else.... If you have reached the end of your rope, it shouldn't be because HE sees you there, and won't help.....

    He is who he is.... And you are just like my Mom.... always covering up for him....... If he chooses to be a D**k head, and won't take care of himself, that has nothing to do with you.... He can't make you give up too! Don't let him pull you down with him.....

    Come on girl! We are all here to give you strength....!

    One time, I thought I just couldn't take it anymore! Everything was done.... I was just "over" it... We all reach the end of our rope sometimes... But I knelt down beside a bed, and just sobbed! I cried until I couldn't cry anymore.... I just didn't know what to do any more..... I prayed and prayed for help.... And slowly, I somehow went to this church, that I had never been to before. I just sat there and cried....! But one time, this lady "helper" talked to me, and held my hands, and prayed with me... She told me I didn't have to fight this alone....

    So with the help of the church, my friends, Daughter's, and choosing a different path, I came out of it... We ALL came out of it.... And this had nothing to do with cancer.

    Life is yours Mags.... just choose the right path, without having to carry someone else's burden... Okay?

    Now I'm going to finish my coffee.... xoxo

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2017

    Mags.... This is what that "Church" opened their services with.... A beautiful video....

    Thinking of you..



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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Mags, love and hugs to you.

    Chevy, When I need tough love, you'll be my go to gal. :)

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2017

    Sometimes, that's all that's left...........

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  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited January 2017

    Thank you for your support, Owlettes. This is why you are my tribe. Go tribe Owlette

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