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GAMomma
GAMomma Member Posts: 197

Hello everyone.. I am slightly overwhelmed with reading. I have.not officially heard my surgeon give the results,however I have them. I went to the hospital to get my son's crash and my rests were there. I asked.for a copy and they have it to me.

Let me back up a.little. I had my first sterotic biopsy November 23, a week later I was told I was fine. I already had my appointment with a surgeon,that I decided to keep anyway. Good thing. The doctor who did the first test only removed the outer layer,fatty tissue. He recommended a different place designed on breast cancer specifically. There were 3 areas for concern,all 3 were malignant.

So I have 1 anterior and 1 mid and 1 posterior. I am going.to assume a mastectomy will be my only choice. I have an appointment with the surgeon on the 9th. It's just been a shitty day in our family. Our kitty's biopsy came back malignant also. We are letting her be for now. If the mass grows back we will say good bye then.

I think because I did not hear the news from the doctor,I'm in denial.

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  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited December 2016

    Sorry to hear that you will most likely be joining us here. With 3 separate areas of malignancy, yes, a mastectomy is most likely. I wouldn’t jump ahead to worrying too much though until you’ve met with the doctor. Different types of “malignancy” are more or less serious so you need to know exactly what you will be dealing with to formulate a plan, and why borrow more trouble than may be warranted.

    Try to take it one day at a time, and just know that you are in the worst part of the process - knowing something is wrong but not knowing what exactly to do about it. Once you have a treatment plan and move forward with treatment it all gets much easier.

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited December 2016

    yes,I agree that little education is the hardest part. I've been googling,since I have the report and that's never good. I decided last night to just stop and wait. I can't undo what's already happened or happening.

    I guess I just have so much going through my head. Pain is a huge concern. I cannot take anything for pain,everything makes me throw up. I took toradol a few years ago for a herniated disk and literally 15 days later I had a huge ulcer,so no nsaids. I guess I'm afraid. I have young kids still,older kids also. A senior in high school with a lot going on. I'm babbling..

  • tennischick888
    tennischick888 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2016

    GAMomma...Hang in there...I know it's easier said than done. Use your cell phone to record your consult with your surgeon. I found that very helpful. I was able to pay attention and not worry about taking notes. I went home and was able to listen to the session and take notes then. Waiting time between doctor appointments, test results, etc is the worst part. Good luck.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma - you are correct. "dr google" is not your friend. It's very hard to wait. Try to get involved with your kiddos. They always keep us busy. Please do check back & let us know.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2017

    "I have 1 anterior and 1 mid and 1 posterior" -- does that refer to your margins? If so, you may just need another lumpectomy to try to get clear margins. A second lumpectomy is often needed because the extent of the DCIS is not known until the pathology results are in. So a mastectomy might not be needed. I hope you can speak with someone soon. The waiting and the unknown elements are the worst part of this! Keep yourself busy and get some exercise to keep your mood elevated. This early process is dreadfully slow, epsecially around the holidays. Hugs to you!

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    eh..not sure if it's a margin. I was reading from the result. It says the size of a posterior mass,the size and the er/pr percents. Then the same for the other 2. I had 3 desperate areas of the right breast biopsied.I have not had a lumpectomy yet,just a biopsy,well 2. But the first one was screwed up.

  • Kawigirl1260
    Kawigirl1260 Member Posts: 60
    edited January 2017

    Welcome, GAMomma. Sorry you've had to find your way here, but you've found a good place. The articles here are very informative. And the community support is excellent.

    When I was diagnosed last year, I, too, did a lot of research. I kept it to this website, the Mayo Clinic, and American Cancer Society websites. My BS agreed that those were good sites for education. You'll be able to breathe easier once you know more and have a plan. There are so many types of breast cancer and so many different aspects to it. Take things one day and one step at a time. Focus on your family for now and take good care of yourself. Best wishes for a good outcome.

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    ty.. yes I have just stuck to this site and read and read..I looked at pictures on American cancer society too.

    I see all words under everyone's name and it's mind boggling. I only.know a handful of what it means. Sadly within a few months it will be understandably.I feel confident that I'm where I need to be.

    Thank you for the welcome,even if it's under these circumstances.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2017

    I see -- it's 3 biopsy results. Ouch, second biopsy even. That's a lot of pokes! I hope you are getting some rest, and definitely don't spend too much time googling until you get a diagnosis. Things can move really slowly, so if you can take little breaks from thinking about this, it will help a lot. Even 5 minutes without thinking about it will be like a mini-vacation. I got a lot of help from the women on these boards. They provide moral support, practical tips, ideas for other treatment options, and a sounding board. There's nothing like a group of women from all over the world that GET IT. Best wishes to you through this process. I was diagnosed nearly 5 years ago, and life is sweet on the other side of this. You will get there too.

  • PNWBCHgirl
    PNWBCHgirl Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2017

    So sorry to hear this and yes definitely the mind goes on overload trying to figure everything out and educate yourself. Make sure you write your questions down and take someone with you to your appointment always nice to have a second set of years and a person to ask a question you may not of thought of.

    hopefully you will get more details sooner than later. When is your next appointment? hang in there and I know easier said than done. we are all here for you.


  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma, I also want to offer you support as you wait to meet your surgeon. I completely agree with Annette47 that the waiting and not knowing is the absolute worst; with your imagination and fear coupled with the powerlessness of doing nothing. Once you meet with your surgeon and begin to discuss specifics, you can formulate a plan of action together and feel more in charge of what is happening.

    I too had multi focal DCIS and that was why MX (mastectomy) was ultimately recommended for me. I am glad that you kept your appointment with the surgeon and that he provided you with good care, finding your cancer early. There are very smart ideas above from others who have made this journey, bringing someone with you, recording your meeting, staying away from googling etc. I will also encourage you to find the things that can help you relax (warm bath, music, yoga, reading, meditation, prayer etc) as this will be useful to you no matter what your treatment includes. I found myself using music not only in the waiting room or at home but also while I lay on the nuclear med table as they charted my sentinel nodes (long boring process).

    Good luck and let us know how you're doing!

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    let me ask.. I see many of you had several lumpectomy then a mastectomy.. any reason the mastectomy was not the first choice?

    I'm not reading too much. The first 48 hours were crazy for me.

    I have spent any free time nesting. I'm naturally a cleaner. I had my own cleaning business for a few yrs. So cleaning brings me peace. I cleaned carpets,wipes cabinets,took down all decorations. I'm a little sore now. The one area,the bigger problem is right up against my chest wall/ribs. It is right where my underside would be. It's been sports bra heaven lately.

    Thank you all for the warm welcome from the bottom of my heart.

    I wanted to give you a little background about me.

    I'm 42,live in Ga. I have 5 kids Mackenzie 21,Emily 17,Joshua 16, Sammy 9 and Nicholas 7.

    I currently work for a Pulmonologist..brand new job,began in November. I've been married to my current husband for 10 yrs,he is a fire fighter.

    I had gastric bypass in 2003 and lost 150 pounds,all of which I kept off. I still follow my small meals and eat wisely. I do have very bad ferritin levels,resulting in anemia. I receive iron infusions every few months. I also have hypothyroidism that has always been irregular. I have yet to find the right dosage to make me feel normal.

    I didn't know I there was a introduction page. If there is,sorry :)

  • Luna52
    Luna52 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2017

    hi gamomma,

    My IDC tumor was small so the original plan was lumpectomy and radiation. However the lumpectomy failed to achieve clear margins - no more IDC but some DCIS. So I moved on to Plan B., a mastectomy. No regrets.

    Best of luck, Luna

  • PNWBCHgirl
    PNWBCHgirl Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2017

    I had only one lumpectomy and I didnt mastectomy first because of well to be truthful I just wanted to keep me me as much as possible. But that plan soon went by the wayside and I ended up having to have both removed. In hindsight it actually ended up being the best course of treatment for me. I look back and think I should have just done it when it was offered in the first place. It would have saved me 3 surgeries

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    thank you the honesty. Talking about breasts for.many is so private. I'm such an open book. I mean literally when my daughter was confused on how to insert a tampon correctly I did it,so she could watch it. But I'm just that kind of person. So if I ever come off abrupt let me.say sorry now.

    I will definitely ask my surg on Monday. I have a 7mm anterior mass and 2 cm posterior mass that are malignant. The mass in the middle was not in my report. I know they are still small. But from what I'm reading my duct is full of cells.

    I want to avoid too many surgeries since being a mom is important to me. And when I say mom I am the cook breakfast,pack lunch,cook dinner with a dessert,keep the house clean,attend pto and send everyone to sleep with reading a story. Yes I'm serious. My mom was pretty crappy so I tend to over do it at times with my kids. Anyway.. I guess I was just wanting the reasons why. Thanks!!

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited January 2017

    I started with a lumpectomy because we didn't have pathology yet. I ended up in my BS office after finding a lump and then getting referred for a diagnostic mammo and us (I was 38 and had never had a mammo before). The radiologist told me there was "99% chance it was nothing" but begrudgingly gave me a referral when I pressed him. The BS felt the lump and immediately "didn't like it", so asked if he could try to draw out a bit of fluid (as I had a complex cystic mass). He was able to get some amber colored fluid (which he also didn't like) that he sent for cytology. My results came back positive for adenocarcinoma, but couldn't be more specific than that. so I initially had a lumpectomy (and sentinel node removal). The pathology from my lumpectomy said DCIS, grade 2 triple negative. Radiation recommended. It wasn't until my second pathology report came back recommending an MRI based on the architectural patterns of my DCIS (only a day before I was supposed to get my 'dots' for radiation) that I had the MRI that showed several other areas of concern. They had not gotten good margins anyway (.8 mm and .5 mm on two sides), so after more was found, sampled and proven to be more DCIS it was determined that I needed a mastectomy to get it all out. That is why I had one, and then the other. I was initially trying for breast conserving therapy as I was 38 and had no real diagnosis yet.

    Everyone is different. You make the decisions that work for you. You will find support and compatriots here.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2017

    I didn't get clean margins in either of two lumpectomies, so a mastectomy was recommended. Benefit of a single mastectomy was avoiding radiation, and benefits of bilateral mastectomy were avoiding both radiation and aromatase inhibitors.

  • PNWBCHgirl
    PNWBCHgirl Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma I totally get the mom thing , I was the same kind of mom and sounds like probably for same reason. I wanted to be Super Mom to my kids.

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    hey everyone.. short update.I went to my.doctor on Wed,instead of Monday. I will have a mastectomy of the right breast on Jan 17. He is proposing a mastectomy of both breast but needs to ask for approval through the chest conference at the hospital. I will also have my lympnodes removed. I do not have clear margins at all. Iwill know a week.or so post op if I need chemo and or radiation.


    So here are my questions.. pain level? I can't take pain meds. So it will be Tylenol only. How bad will it be?

    Clothing? Would button up stuff be best? Anything else I need to help recovery? Food,drinks,ice packs,bra? I do not know anyone who had this done. My MIL did but she lives 300 miles and lives..differently.. she played in a bed for 15 days in the same clothes,not moving. Her recovery was rough.

    Will I need dressing gauze and tape? Please try to think of everything.

    Wednesday I go for pre op and may need blood before surg. I am generally really anemic,so I need to squeeze that in maybe too.😮

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2017

    I don’t know the answers to most of your questions, but I would suggest you post on the “Surgery” forum of this site as there should be plenty of advice available there. It’s the same surgery no matter the diagnosis ...

    FWIW, my mom had a mastectomy and is allergic to opiods so didn’t take anything strong after hers and was okay.

  • Kiks1
    Kiks1 Member Posts: 254
    edited January 2017

    I had a bilateral mastectomy last year and it was not bad at all. My 16 year old helped cooked and looked after me through the first 2 weeks. We did eat simply,but healthy, as I did not expect her to cook complicated meals. I remembered I couldn't lift my arms much so I needed help to get even a drink of water. I was told that I could shower after a couple of days but I really just washed up and sponge bathe until the drains were out ( about 2 weeks for me).My DH and daughter helped with the process. The hospital provided all the gauze, bandages, saline etc that I needed to clean my incisions. My daughter helped me do that as well as empty the drains. As far as pain, I had the hospital remove all painkillers from my system as soon as I was coherent. They were giving me a migraine. I only took tylenol the first 2 days, more because I thought it would hurt if I didn't. Truth is, I did not feel much pain and I do not have a high tolerance for pain.

    I lived in comfy joggers and flannel shirts ( worn inside out so that I could slip my drains into the pockets). I did manage to go for short walks and shopping (it was Christmas). I needed to prop my pillows up to sleep but I was sleeping well. I read that many, also, got a wedge pillow to help with sleeping.

    In retrospect, I was rushing to be 'normal' again and my frustrations during the healing process stemmed from my anxieties. I was worried over not regaining full range of motion especially after I developed some cording. I might also have started exercising too soon. So, if I have any words of wisdom, it would be to take it easy and do not over exert, at least, for the first couple of weeks. I did start physical therapy about a month after and I did regain full range of motion within 3 months. In addition, I was anxious over all the numbness, tightness, and tingling in the chest area. It is all fine now a year later. I do believe that it is important that you ask your surgeon or MO to recommend a good PT as soon as they give you the green light to start rehabilitation.

    Here's wishing you an uneventful and smooth recovery.

  • Luna52
    Luna52 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma - the advice to check out the Surgery forum is excellent. You will find lots of good information there.

    I had a bilateral mastectomy in September. My recovery experience was very similar to what Kiks posted. I never experienced what I would call pain..more like discomfort and soreness. I was tightly bandaged and my chest was mostly numb. Definitely needed my husband's help for those first weeks, particularly before the drains were out. Once the drains are out and the bandages off and you can shower again, you will feel more normal BUT don't overdo it. No lifting, house-cleaning, etc. It might feel fine while you are doing it, but you will pay the price the next day.

    I, too, went to PT and highly recommend it.

    Best of luck to you, Luna


  • PNWBCHgirl
    PNWBCHgirl Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2017

    your pre-op will give you some advice.

    But I'll try to answer some. Button down front or zip the best. They probably won't want you lifting arms.

    Home from hospital I wore a zipped hoodie sweatshirt to cover up my binder.

    At home first few days I had a comfy and soft button up night shirt

    I wore exercise pants when I went out instead of my jeans , you will be swollen.

    They may send you home in binder or bandages. I was in binder every hospital/ DR different.

    Ask about bra and special cami for drains makes life easier and once you can shower have a lanyard handy to clip your drains to,

    Ice helped ( my Dr recommended) especially (if you can't take pain medicine

    Gauze , tape, antibiotic ointment etc should be on hand.

    Lots of soft pillows to keep under your arms with lymph node removal you may be sore

    Plenty of fluids and food you like

    Reading material etc.....


    Hope this helps

  • PNWBCHgirl
    PNWBCHgirl Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2017

    your pre-op will give you some advice.

    But I'll try to answer some. Button down front or zip the best. They probably won't want you lifting arms.

    Home from hospital I wore a zipped hoodie sweatshirt to cover up my binder.

    At home first few days I had a comfy and soft button up night shirt

    I wore exercise pants when I went out instead of my jeans , you will be swollen.

    They may send you home in binder or bandages. I was in binder every hospital/ DR different.

    Ask about bra and special cami for drains makes life easier and once you can shower have a lanyard handy to clip your drains to,

    Ice helped ( my Dr recommended) especially (if you can't take pain medicine

    Gauze , tape, antibiotic ointment etc should be on hand.

    Lots of soft pillows to keep under your arms with lymph node removal you may be sore

    Plenty of fluids and food you like

    Reading material etc.....


    Hope this helps

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma, a quick note which may or may not be pertinent to you. I can only sleep on my stomach :/ which was not possible after my mx. I got good sleep meds from my bs so that I could actually get to sleep on my back. I used lots of pillows to discourage me from rolling over in my sleep as well. If you think that sleeping will be an issue (you need good sleep for good healing), don't hesitate to ask for sleep meds.

    I agree with Kiks and Luna, I had soreness and a bit of discomfort, but not intense pain. I only took pain meds for a day or so, and then only at night for a few more. Having something easy and comforting to eat is helpful (I always had several soup options on hand after a surgery) and my partner washed my hair at the kitchen sink for me (he actually enjoyed that part) until I could shower. I had some oversized sweaters that I wore, hanging my drain at the waist of my (old baggy) jeans. I could actually go to work that way (which was a great 'get back to normal' thing for me).

    Maybe having some movies picked out so that you and the kids can binge watch some things together while you're newly healing? A bit of planning ahead so that you can relax and heal for a few days will go a long way to making sure you heal as quickly as possible.

    Hugs to you!

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    good evening.. just a quick update.

    Tuesday I'm having a double mastectomy. Back and forth with my surgeon and oncologist it is the best choice.

    It's happening so fast I barely have time to think,let alone "feel" the feelings. I'm ready though. I shopped,cleaned,prepared as much as I can,for now

    I know Tuesday Will be a whole new ball game of emotions and struggles. I will be sure to check in an update.

  • Luna52
    Luna52 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma - good luck on Tuesday.

    I know it is a shock and happening fast but I think you will be happier with a double mastectomy than single in the long run. You will know that surgery is behind you. No more mammograms! And easier to have a totally new chest, I think.

    I'm just over 4 months post-bmx.

    Please update us.


  • GrammaSue
    GrammaSue Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2017

    Hi GAMomma. I believe we will be traveling this road together. I go for my biopsy tomorrow. The news from the mammogram and the ultrasound report, plus a call from my own doctor was not encouraging at all. Like you, I have yet to see a surgeon although my doctor told me in his phone call to me on Friday evening that his office would be making an appointment for me on Monday (tomorrow). .There are so many here who have been down this path before and I have already found some very kind people here. My head is still reeling from the whole experience and my acceptance of my diagnosis is really fragile. It seems that is common among many. I'm trying to emotionally find my way through this. Good luck to you and please update us with your journey. 

  • GAMomma
    GAMomma Member Posts: 197
    edited January 2017

    Hi Sue... I hope all of your tests come back clean.

    I have updated a bit since my first post. I have seen the surgeon a few times a d have DCIS grade 3, I'm having a double mastectomy on Tuesday.

    I have been reading so much..it's a great forum and I hope you find peace here also.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2017

    GAMomma - good luck with your surgery. I had no problems with my BMX.

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