ISO IDC Left side Grade 1 ER+ PR+ Her2- <1cm survivors

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stage1lady
stage1lady Member Posts: 4

I am closing in on my window of decision about radiation and HT and I am looking for other like cases to this: Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-. To be specific my case thus far has been:

1st mammogram found small focal on left side. 7mm group of punctate and amorphous calcifications wherein measured tumor was 1.7MM, yes mm. Pathology showed ER (99%) and PR (100%) Positive and HER Negative. I had lumpectomy with 0/4 sentinel node 11/2016. I may be missing some important details in the cancer description. Classified as Stage T1A, grade 1.

I am undecided on treatment from this point forward. I am looking for like survivors to post on this thread. Please post your DX, date, treatment choices and current DX. Thank you in advance, I have been watching these threads and finally decided to post.

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2016

    Hi Stage1lady,

    We just wanted to pop by and say welcome to Breastcancer.org! We're sorry you have to be here, but we're really glad you found us and decided to post. You're sure to get some great responses soon -- our Community is full of very helpful, knowledgeable members who are all here to support you!

    We look forward to hearing more about you soon!

    --The Mods

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2016

    Well, I'm still alive so that makes me a survivor so far. I don't think you'll get too many posts from non-survivors....just saying.

    My tumour was bigger than yours. I did a double mast with no chemo or rads. Made it 7 years before it came back so that's a good run. Didnt go on Tamoxifen either. What else do you need to know?

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited December 2016

    Hello,

    I had 3 small tumors - the largest one was 9 mm I think. Because I had three and they were in different quadrants, I knew I was headed down the mastectomy road and I opted for BMX with reconstruction. I had the Oncotype test done and it came back at 17, so chemo was not recommended and neither was radiation but I am on Tamoxifen. I'm two years out now and doing great. Good luck with your decisions.

  • stage1lady
    stage1lady Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2016

    Who did you ask for an Oncotype test? I haven't seen an oncologist yet. The standard recommendation here is for 30 full breast RX treatments and I am trying to grasp the side effects vs benefit.

  • stage1lady
    stage1lady Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2016

    Thanks for your post. I just want to find a group or someone to connect with that had a similar size...and maybe size doesn't matter at all. I am pretty overwhelmed with all of the research and percentages I've seen. I am thankful that you had 7 years of remission.

  • MoeNap67
    MoeNap67 Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2016

    I was diagnosed 9/4/16 during my routine mammogram. I got the results via phone call from my primary care doctor on Labor Day weekend.

    They found a 2cm tumor (IDC-invasive ductal carcinoma) in my right breast. Breast cancer does not run in my family and I really think I got this from doing IVF treatments to have my children (14 years ago). I have no regrets and would do it all over again to have my kids. I had a lumpectomy and they also removed the sentinel lymph node. The node was negative. My ER and PR are positive but HER2 is negative. My oncotype score was on the cusp of intermediate. They offered the choice of doing chemotherapy and I had a blunt conversation with my oncologist asking if this was his body, would he do chemo? I would avoid putting that poison into my body whenever possible. But if my doctor said I had to do it, I would. I decided to do radiation and then tamoxifen for 10 years. I had radiation every day for 5 weeks (took Thanksgiving off). Started tamoxifen 12/28/16. I've had hot flashes, joint aches and fatigue. I'm fighting it by going to the gym and exercising and also found that doing acupuncture really helped with the joint aches. (I have none now). It's so important (but not easy) to do something good for yourself. I've also tried yoga (I'm not very flexible though). Hang in there. You have a lot of support from your doctors and forums like this. Best wishes to you!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2016

    My surgeon actually said to "save the big guns until next time" and I'm glad I did. I've had a recurrence experience like what most people get for their first diagnosis! I saved rads and hormonals as a back up and that's what I got as stage IV. Hopefully I can go many years before I have to move into IV chemos.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited December 2016

    Stage1Lady - breathe, you got this.

    Standard treatment with lumpectomy is rads which are very doable. Your high ER/PR positive and Her2 negative standard treatment would be depending on Pre/post menapausal status tamoxifen or an AI.

    I'm four years out Stage 1: left side lumpectomy, radiation with boosts, and AI with Zometa infusions every 6 mos. My team gave me a great prognosis. I had 8mm and 4mm tumors near each other near chest wall upper quadrant. MRI after lx said all gone. The chest wall margin was less than 5mm so rads were required even if I had chosen MX. I did have 7 nodes taken all clear, but LE is ongoing issue. I take AI had bone lost soZometa infusions. I eat well, walk, dance, exercise, lift weights, and enjoy life. My hubby lost his battle with cancer 2015...promised him I would live well and enjoy life!

    You can check out cancer math and look at the projected outcome with your data.

    You have a highly favorable outcome...breathe, keep your head down and keep moving forward. Join a thread going through rads with you...you can do this. Join a support group in your area. Apply for weekend with Casting for Recovery or Little Pink Houses...you so have this...

    Let us know how you proceed...

    (((Hugs)))

    Cind

  • Croderick
    Croderick Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2016

    hello,

    I totally understand your concern and I can tell only about me. Diagnosed Oct 2016, surgery 4 weeks later. Removal of 6 odes (0 cancer) and a lumpectomy. Current radiation 5. Days a week for 6weeks, but doing great.

  • Michelle_in_cornland
    Michelle_in_cornland Member Posts: 1,689
    edited December 2016

    Hi,

    Diagnosed on 8/8/16, lumpectomy by oncoplastic surgeon, radiation 20 days. No fatigue whatsoever, actually felt the opposite. I had so much energy that I developed insomnia (which I have taken care of.) I start Lupron shots with an AI in January. The reason for radiation even with a small area removed is because you want to stop any progression of cancer cells in the affected breast. The reason for anti-hormonals is to prevent hormones attaching to breast cells. I have a great surgeon, MO and RO all from really good institutions - USC, Washington University, Harvard, etc. I trust them to give me their best advice and I follow it.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited December 2016

    I did AI therapy and was happy I am 5 years NED. I had 2 tumors ILC and IDC er 95% less than 1% pr. Stage 1, no nodes, each tumor 1cm.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited December 2016

    i would recommend registering on the NCCN's website and reading the breast cancer treatment guidelines. With respect to lumpectomy, with invasive bc the standard of care includes radiation unless you are above age 70.Depending on your age, you might be given the choice of different radiation protocols. While I was offered brachytherapy with my lumpectomy, I chose whole breast radiation and did well.


    While controversial because we can never 100% identify who will or will not recur, with such favorable tumor characteristics, you should be looking at curative treatment. That is, not being over or under treated, but treated enough so that you will probably not have to revisit this disease. Keep in mind, when choosing treatment, you also want to reduce your chances of getting a new primary. That sai, you need to choose a team that will address all of these issues...


    And, I most humbly and respectfully disagree with Barbie's physician's recommendation. While my doctor would not initially over treat me, he was very clear in giving me a treatment with the intent that it would not be necessary down the road to require endless treatment due to a progression. With favorable prognostics, it is essential to have many good choices from a trusted physician. I am 7 years out from my initial diagnosis and doing well

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited December 2016

    I should include since I had 2 tumors and a suspicious area they recommended a mx which I did. No radiation was needed and I later had a DIEP reconstruction. Suspicious area was normal tissue afterall. I am happy with the mx and reconstruction.

  • Laurenann78
    Laurenann78 Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2016

    RMIlulu- why are you on Zometa infusions?? I'm just asking out of curiousity.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited January 2017

    Laurenann - Zometa infusions are due to bone loss from AI. Lost 10% spine hips...now holding...yeah.

    MO should schedule bone density to begin and another 1 yr into AI. Everyone is different, but important to monitor

    Happy New Years

    Cind

  • Variable
    Variable Member Posts: 77
    edited January 2017

    Stage1lady- I am relatively new here as well and struggle with treatment decisions and timing. I was diagnosed with left IDC Stage 2A, 2.6 cm, no nodes, Er +. I had a lumpectomy and fought the idea of radiation, but ultimately did it as I squeaked out of a recommendation for chemo with an Oncotype of score just within the intermediate range (19). Radiation was a tough decision for me due to the impact on my heart and lungs, and feeling like I was trading one potential problem for another. It was initially terrifying, but once I got a few sessions under my belt it became easier. I am now on to the decision of taking Tomoxifen. I should have started it a week ago, but again, the thought of harming other parts of my body makes it a hard pill to swallow. I know it is the recommended course, but I am very scared.

    Good luck with your decisions! You are not alone in your apprehension!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited January 2017

    Someone is recommending chemo on the basis of an oncodx score of 19?

    I think I read the post incorrectly, I am glad I did not need to consider radiation.

    Does anyone else feel like if these posts were read 100 years in the future the reader would not believe the barbaric choices for treatment.

  • Variable
    Variable Member Posts: 77
    edited January 2017

    Meow 13- Not for me. I was told he would not deny it if I wanted it for a few percentage points reduction in chance of recurrence, but did not feel the risks would be worth the benefit in my case.

  • IrishEyes39
    IrishEyes39 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2017

    Left IDC stage 1 -- 7mm. ER+ PR+ Her2- (first testing showed 2+ and I've never known what to think about that)

    When first diagnosed, I was diagnosed with multicentric DCIS, ruling out a lumpectomy. After my double mastectomy, they found 3cm DCIS, 1.7 cm DCIS, 7mm IDC, LCIS, and areas of various other abnormal but not malignant nonsense... all in the same breast. And nothing dodgy in the right. No chemo (low score but strong family history so it was offered), no rads. On Tamoxifen for 10 years, although I am starting to wonder at 1 year out how long I can deal with it.


  • stage1lady
    stage1lady Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2017

    Thank you all for your replies. I have been at peace with not choosing radiation as a current treatment option. I am on tamoxifen, about 1 month now. I have these phantom pains from surgery, which I assume is normal. I am changing my lifestyle too, like lowering other risk factors in addition to taking the meds. Losing weight, less stress, no to very low alcohol consumption, juicing and raw food 80% of my daily diet.

  • pinkskies2813
    pinkskies2813 Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2017

    Hello all, I am excited to find a low grade board!

    I am newly diagnosed and have been seeking out stories/opinions to help make my decision. Right now I am battling 50% 50% mastectomy vs lumpectomy. Uh and I have to make the decision within the next week! I am only 28 and have yet to have children. I was actually seeing about fertility when the cancer put that to a halt. So it is important to me to make the best decision to have the most out of the rest of my life, and also to have children the safest/quickest!

    my BS, and most cancer docs, are pushing me for a lumpectomy, although BS says she will do mastectomy, but I am (SO FAR) a perfect candidate for lumpectomy which also guarantees radiation.

    Now through an MRI, they found 2 additional possible spots on that same left breast. BS does not believe they are cancerous, as they are suspicious but do not look quite like the known cancer. Also I am young and have very dense breast (which makes cancer more difficult to determine on MRI/Scans). But she is ordering those to be clipped and biopsied due to my young age.

    I have one great aunt on my moms side who had cancer close to 60, other than that no family history and negative on the gene test. I just don't know what to choose, lumpectomy or mastectomy! I have been driving my poor husband crazy lol, he thinks I should just chop them off and start a new lol.

    I am tall and quite thin, thus I have always had small As. I have considered getting a boob job, my mother has one. I never went through with it because I do have anxiety of needles/blood and I wanted to have children first. However, things are different now. I am worried about radiation, as I am also fair skinned and never do well with long periods of sun exposure lol. Plus it is on the same side as my heart.

    I know there is so much unknown until the docs can test on the actual tumor (after surgery), however I love to hear from everyones past experiences, as it gives me much insight to what is to come. The ideal situation for me would be for me to take care of it now and have the lowest possible chance of reoccurrence (as I have a long way to go :) ). Ideally, for me, the best outcome would be no lymph node involvement, with no radiation and no chemo. Doc said this is a possibility (if tumor test go as planned) with a mastectomy. But this all seems so major! Im ready to make a decision and get to having that family! God bless you woman are awesome!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited February 2017

    Pinks - so there you go. Your doc says mastectomy means no chemo or rads - unless there is node involvement. You said ideally, no chemo, no rads - so sounds like you've already made your decision because there is just no way to know about nodes until surgery. Let us know when you move forward. It really does get easier once you commit and have a plan in place.

  • Wholenewworld
    Wholenewworld Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2017

    I am just over 1 year out from initial mammo/biopsy. I had 5mm IDC 95% ER+ 95% PR+ With no node involvement and did lumpectomy and rads with Tamoxifen. I went to a top hospital for 2nd opinion and surgery and all docs were telling me to get a lumpectomy. I went to a teaching hospital for rads and they said they recommend Rads for all pre menopausal women no matter how small area was. Post menopausal women with very small size (mm) may have the option not to do it. I did rads, which wasn't that bad, but now have mild breast/truncal LE. I just did my 1 year follow up mammo w/contrast which picked up calcifications in opposite side - another biopsy - negative. The contrast mammo picks up every tiny thing (like MRI) so lots of follow up. It's the "better safe than sorry" theory I guess. After a another year I will probably switch to reg mammo and ultrasound. T

    Would I have chosen a more aggressive treatment so no rads and no constant follow up? I don't know - its all a crapshoot. You can only base your decision on good doctors advice and your own feelings about how you want to go forward. I feel I am in good hands and will be ok no matter what comes up through the years.

    Wishing you well -

  • Cath78
    Cath78 Member Posts: 15
    edited March 2017

    Hi there

    I had 1cm tumor removed ..margins clear..1lymph node removed, no c cells seen. I am Her2+ e+p. I'm 38. I was told i have 80%of being clear so i ran out wanting non of the 'preventative ' treatment ahich was to be Chemo Herceptin radiation and tomox. I thought, how would i be treated if c was found in tissue and node and elsewhere.. the same ? I couldn't put my body through ALL that. I am doing all the alt.i can to prevent a favorable environment for anything to grow and can only hope for the best. Big double edged sward :-( Positive positive positivity

    Blessings to all.

  • tigerpanda
    tigerpanda Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2017

    I got lumpectomy done, oncatype score 19, ER+, PR+, Her2-, lymphnodes negative, tumour size 2.4cm, post menopause and waiting for mammoprint results to decide if I should do chemo or not. I am scared to get chemo done, my first MO recommended chemo because i fall in the intermediate group, went for 2nd opinion with another MO, he suggested I get mammoprint test done. would it be fair if I go by mammoprint results, low score then no chemo and high then chemo. Any thoughts from any one whose scores match mine?

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