Body image concerns 5 years post bmx - feeling vulnerable
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Rhody, just a thought. Have you tried showering together yet? I always find that is a big help in feeling close. We're naked together, it's warm, we can touch. He can see all my cancer scars, my chest and my leg. We can face them together. We can start whatever we want to in the shower, or not. He can feel that he's helping me. If you haven't tried that yet, why not give it a whirl?
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Still haven't started the Prozac yet but I might this weekend. I really appreciate all the tips from you ladies. Amy, good idea about the shower, I will have to think about that. Although we haven't taken a shower together in years! He is doing a much better job of caressing my back, etc. We'll get there, I know. I think that the reality of life has sunken in now that we are outside the daily fight for survival that came with surgery and then chemo. Maybe if I start the Prozac I will feel better, I do know that I am in the throes of depression these days. Trying to use natural remedies but ready to go "chemical."
Hugs to all of us!
Martha
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It's a tough one Martha, no question about it. Being dx with a life-threatening disease is a huge shock, and having to sacrifice a beloved body part to stop it can't help but make a person sad. It's probably harder because you both remember the way you were before the dx. In a way, it might be easier for me because I'd already had my leg surgery and breast surgery years before I met by current BF. I could tell him, "I sure hope you're OK with it, because that's the way I am."
BTW, my favorite natural remedy is good wine. It always makes me feel good inside. But it only makes me look younger when he drinks it. Hope these help.
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Amy, I love your wine remedy! I find it works best when we both drink it!
I did start the Prozac about a month ago and it has really helped my frame of mind. It doesn't change my situation but it helps my psyche. I have so much to be grateful for, I need to stop the pitty party because it's not fair to him.
Martha
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Thanks to all who commented on this thread! Some very helpful and insightful suggestions!
These days I am feeling good, with body issues not at all prominent. The other night, I was wearing a very small cami, no forms, and I wondered if my husband noticed the difference from when I am "flat" and when I have forms. I think this is part of the thing.
I can be two totally different ways: very flat, or a curvy figure. I feel self conscious about going from one state to the next. this is probably why I do not like the idea of changing rooms, hot tubs etc. Most people do not know anything ever happened to my boobs, or they have an idea that something happened, years ago, not sure what, not important now....
So there is a huge difference in my appearance in some situations and that is probably the biggest issue.
It is interesting how our emotions can change and move to new areas, recede and come back, like the ocean. I think it is probably normal. It is super to have this forum for a "check in" - to see how others are doing, to discuss changes and emotions. Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated!
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I feel for those of you who are having, or whose partners are having, difficulty with your appearance. It sounds lonely.
I've had several intimate partners with pretty significant surgical scars. It's always been talked about. Now I'm on the other side and while I do think breasts have more cultural meaning than kidneys or hips, I feel pretty comfortable and my partner does, too. I don't know what a locker room will be like, but since the first thing I'm likely to do that involves public changing is a Zumba class for women with health issues, I'm probably not going to be the only one changing who has interesting scars.
When I was first diagnosed, several co-workers with whom I had only superficial relationships pulled me into their offices and showed me their scars. This was really helpful. I'd seen several friends' and family members' lumpectomy scars, but my colleagues had had mastectomies.
I figure if anyone ever asks what happened, I'll say, "dueling scars."
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another thought is a bath with candles and romantic music if you have a tub big enough for two. Sometimes my hubby and I do that (we have a big bath tub) and it doesn't always lead to sex, but it does lead to feeling closer. I also have him rub my legs and feet. In addition to helping me post chemo, for some reason it gets him amorous, and because I lay on my stomach (if you can lay on your stomach, I only had a lumpectomy) the scars aren't as prominent. Not to be too kinky, but oiling up his chest and then having him rub his chest all over my back is also a winner! I get lubrication in an area where I can't reach, and we get body closeness.
Candles hide a lot of scars and skin issues!
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dueling scars! Love it, ksusan! -
I am glad I found this discussion. I am 1 year post double mastectomy on Friday. I had planned on implants, but my body rejected the extenders and after a month of fevers, numerous antibiotics and another hospital stay, they were removed. However, the extra skin remained, and I am scheduled for that to be removed on Sept 2nd.
Due to other life circumstances, I didn't get the chance to mourn the loss of my breasts until recently, and am very sad about how I look and feel. My husband is extremely supportive and says it doesn't bother him, that he would rather have me alive, than have breasts. From his point of view, it hasn't affected our physical intimacy, but it affects me. I loved my breasts for bringing both of us pleasure and for feeding my babies. I was so busy being happy they were gone, I never considered the aftermath of emotions
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JoAnnK, It is so much to cope with. I think you are going to feel better about yourself when you get your skin revisions.
I still have tough times, 5 years out, and having a chest that still hurts makes things only worse. Post mastectomy pain.
I do wish you the best with your surgery...and we are always here for you.
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Thank you all for sharing your thoughts here. I just recently had a UMX and after much inner turmoil, ended up having reconstruction with a DIEP flap. For a long time, I didn't think the flap reconstruction would be possible (long story), but was dead set against having an implant. Ultimately, I wasn't sure how I would feel long-term without reconstruction, especially being just 40, and since the flap reconstruction turned out to be an option, I went with it.
Now I get way ahead of myself and wonder what I will do if I have a recurrence or develop cancer in my other breast, and I am pretty sure I won't do reconstruction again. I don't regret my decision, but the way I see it, it is a once in a lifetime thing. I have a scar from hip to hip and a ridiculous, Harry Potter zig-zag scar all way across my reconstructed breast, and sometimes I'm filled with a really weird feeling boarding on self-loathing that I did all of this self-mutilation just for a feelingless lump of tissue on my chest?! Even with recon, I'm not sure how I'll feel about getting into a swimsuit or being intimate. As someone else said, I don't think there is a way to escape all the body image issues that come with a mastectomy.
My best to all of you.
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39 and hip, Thanks for your honest sharing. I did not reconstruct so I really appreciated seeing the "other side of the fence" where we all think life is better. I think we all do that, think "if only" and think life could feel better. But cancer is a game changer no matter what route we end up taking.
My best to you!
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Dear 39andhip:
I am fifteen years out from having my right breast removed and I still feel the shame and jealousy (yes, jealousy) of seeing another woman with two breasts. I recently found this blog and what a godsend it is! I wish I had the opportunity to know of it years ago.
It is only recently, the last year or so , that I have been considering reconstruction ---all the years I have been wearing a form. I did have two attempts at a recon back then but they failed miserably and had terrible infections both times. I was advised by family members to leave it alone and be grateful for my life, which I am. So, I saw a surgeon recently, I think she is very accomplished and recons are her forte but after seeing and reading some of the postings here, I am deciding against having it now. Your post especially made a great deal of sense to me---why should I mutilate the rest of my body in the hopes of having a mound of flesh that once was? You are a very brave and courageous woman to have had all you had done.
I must admit that I also fear the possibility of infection again ---mine was systemic and I was almost a gonner during the last one. Why I would even consider this surgery now really has baffled some of my family and friends. My husband, dear soul, has not once ever turned away from me and been totally supportive. He, actually, is the only one that is on board with me if I should get the recon done. Everyone else thinks I should leave well enough alone. Perhaps they are right.
Thank you for giving me a perspective on how and why I would consider doing more harm to myself than (maybe) good. God bless and take care.
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Although I had a consultation with a breast reconstruction surgeon, I opted for no reconstruction. After the ordeal of surgery, chemo and radiation, the idea of more surgery seems overwhelming. Talking with friends who had reconstruction and developed signficant issues also contributed to my decision. However, my surgeon says you don't lose the option, so if you change your mind, that's fine. She also said that reconstruction is not an especially easy process, so she would rather a woman wait until she's sure she wants reconstruction then to do it because society expects you to.
Personally, I'm fine with no breasts. In many ways, it's more comfortable, especially if you had large breasts. I never wear a bra around the house, and often do not wear prostheses when leaving home. But everyone has to decide where their comfort level is, and that's a really personal decision.
I am going to try shower scrunchies in my bathing suit...if they float out...so be it. As for the gym dressing room, I was never particularly comfortable stripping down in front of strangers when I had a good body and two perfectly fine breasts, so I guess that's nothing new for me.
Breast cancer is an unfortunate reality in many women's life, and I'm always surprised how many women reveal their situations once they know mine. We're a bigger sisterhood than we know.
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It's been a year since the skin revisions. After the surgery, I had another issue with infection caused from the surgery. The healing took longer than I expected, and while the plastic surgeon did a great job on one side, the breast that had had radiation did not heal as neatly. For the most part, I ignore the fact that I am flat-chested, and am not as emotionally torn as I was last year. Time is the great healer. At least I am healthy and alive.
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Hi! I had my 2nd mastectomy in 2014 and a lot of things, especially self image went down the tubes. No sexual arousal from the "missing breasts" is also a bummer.
It's reassuring to just read all these posts on the subject. I can be mistakenly hard on myself..".I shouldn't feel this way" or "I should just be grateful to be alive." But facing reality is good for the soul. Thanks for letting me say things out-loud. I feel truthful!
My husband is wonderful and he still caresses the missing breasts...go figure! But his motions are such a huge reminder of what I can no longer feel. I, too, identify "shame" with how I look. ANd I do feel weird even thinking of wearing my old Lands End swimsuit. I bought it special in 09 when I was reduced to the 1 breast warrior.
Other parts of healing, dealing with 2 recurrences, side effects of Arimedex, and wondering out loud why I'm even on the drug if I have no more breasts to donate!
Do any of you question your therapy? I can't have another breast recurrence and my nodes have all been clean, so why am I being drained of hormones which I need for heart health, lubricated joints and brain function? I'm intimidated talking to my onc, just seeing him causes a spike in anxiety. Hate the exam. Once when I was seeing my GP for a yearly check-up, I was asked if a med-student could join in. I felt so humiliated just to have that requested. I said a hearty, "NO" and then cried because I didn't want to be the freak show for the day! (My BP ran high that visit!) Anyway, thanks for listening. I've never shared these secrets. Confession is good for the soul. Good-night! I haven't been on for several years so my DX needs updating. 07,09,14.
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Some of you gals are so refreshingly honest. I caught the word"jealousy". I thougt only I had problems with envy!
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Hey Arby, Your thoughts are all on target and wonderful. How great it is to find a place where we can be ourselves. I also feel sick every time I see the doctor. In your case, you had two reoccurances so it seems to me you should take the meds. While a mastectomy removes our breasts, there can even be breast tissue in out back, or under our arm. Ask your doctor.
Yes, I hear you, I have trouble with the student doctors too. But try to begin to wrap your head around the fact that they are students, and you can show them breasts don't define you. You got knocked down and got up again, be proud of that, even if you still miss your breasts, you can be proud of your struggle and win over cancer!
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Hi
So Monday the 14th I had my BMX , today was the day I could shower and hubby helped me. He then noticed I wouldn't look in the mirror . Every time I pass a mirror ( completely dressed) I can see the loss and want to cry. On Monday , my post op appt, I don't even want to undress for the banadages and drain removal .... I chose no recon but never realized the emotional wreck I would be. Don't get me wrong I'm glad to be alive to be a mother to my 4 kids but feel like I'm going thru the motions. Does it ever get easier? -
nulyte.... I chose reconstruction but wanted to comment. The first time after BMX when I was allowed to unwrap for the first time and see what wasn't there any longer was one of the most traumatic things ever. I thought I knew what it would look like but my husband unwrapping me and me looking down to see Nothing but dark purpley scars filled w that surgery glue and that caved in look.... I immediately broke down and bawled my husband holding me and crying with me. He got in the shower w me and bathed me while I sobbed. I'll never forget that ever
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Nulyte,
I had UMX on August 24th and like u, chose no reconstruction. I couldn't look for over a week after I had surgery...my
Husband helped me in the shower for a week or so...he held me while I wept (even before looking, I felt devastated) ...then went I did take a peek a week or so after, I cried some more. I cried every time I got undressed to shower for a few weeks.
It is still emotional. But it isn't as bad...so it does get better! I am hopefully for myself thst it will keep getting better and hope the same for u.
Even the other day, my friend said to be patient with myself because it is so new.
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Lily55 - thanks for sharing about not taking baths - I have not taken a bath since my UMX 5 years ago! Only showers - used to that look. I've not talked about this with anyone - so it was nice to hear someone else say it. Thank you!
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I feel the need to share this, I had DIEP reconstruction 2 months after surgery I got the all clear to swim again. Well I went to the pool and in the shower beside me this woman was upset that I was using her hook to hang my bag. I quickly apologised and moved my bag she took one look at my scars and gasp. This 250+ lady had the gaul to gasp at my scars. You know what I would rather look the way I do than to weigh 250.
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I had my BMX on 11/15. I was allowed to shower 2 days later. My partner helped me unwrap. I looked immediately and said, "I look like a f**king bada$$!" She agreed! Seriously, I think women with BMX and no recon look like superheroes!
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I had my BMX in July. No recon. I've felt good about how I look, lumps, bumps and all, from day 1. I would like to have the extra tissue removed, aka dog ears, but I'm feeling stronger and more confident each day.
Who knows how I'll feel tomorrow, next week, or next year... But today I'm feeling great. Happy and confident!
I've lost 47 pounds and hope to lose more. I am fat and flat!
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