Anyone.Starting Chemo in October 2016?
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Alla, great to hear that your first chemo treatment went so smoothly. May that set the stage for future infusions!
Fightingthefight, good news that the UTI springs razed quickly. A few times a year, I'll get little twinges of pain, but drinking cranberry juice fogger a fee days chases then away. Luckily, I haven't had a full on UTI for many years, but with our bodies cooing with the cancer and chemo, it's no surprise that our immune systems hiccup in one way or another.
Ella22, welcome to our little club that no one wants to join. Let us know when you get your treatment plan pinned down.
Melindawv, my port surgeon mentioned that he's had a number of times where chemo has started the day after the device is inserted. The pain medication should help with both soreness and encourage sleepiness.
Speaking of ports, I'm surprised at how sore my neck still is after Monday's surgery. It feels like the surgeon did a Linda Blair "Exorcist" head spin on me while I was out. It hurts on both sides although worse on the implantation / left side. You may recall that he initially planned to put the port on the right, but couldn't access the vein (?) so I had a "bonus" incision and minor bruising there. Anyone else?
Lyn
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well I'm still at work and feeling normal. But I do have neulesta gadget attached to my arm and it doesn't go off until tonight at 8:30 this is what I think will have the worst side effect. hoping for the best.
4girlsmom: I'm also ER+PR+,HER2+ and my protocol is this. AC once every 2 weeks 4 times. with nuelesta. this is 2 months. after this I will be on Taxol once every week for 12 weeks with Prejeta and herceptin once every 3 weeks. total of 5 months then I will decide on my surgery then after surgery recovery I will continue with prejeta and herceptin I think I'm spelling it right. for the duration of one year total. I never went for a second opinion I was very happy with the place I'm at and even though HER2 is agressive it responds well to this meds. I went for it.
Melindawv, Don't worry about starting treatment the day after getting the port I was told that you can get the port in morning and start using it later that day. It wont hurt I know I say this but everyone is different. they put numbing cream on the spot and it really does not hurt it actually feels better then getting blood taken out of your arm.. My port was super tender still and a bit swollen when they insirted the IV and I was still ok.
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ey ladies, day two I'm still holding my own. I feel a little sideways today. Struggling a little with stomach cramps and nausea.. mostly fatigue. I've also had a lingering headache that Tylenol hadn't helped at all. Guess it's par for the course, right? I don't have much of an appetite but I find that forcing a little something does help settle things a bit. I've been doing my best with liquids. I've managed about 3 bottled waters and a Gatorade today so far. I'm not a big drinker on abnormal day, the struggle is real y'all! Also, I have a few splotchy warm areas on my skin, mostly on my face and neck. I think I may try some Benadryl and see ignore it helps. Seems like a lot of complaints but I honestly feel pretty lucky thus far.
Ohh I got my hair cut today! I had a mini meltdown in the salon but the lady who did my hair was amazing!
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Al12 - Cool article on the wheat grass. Do you think it's considered an 'antioxidant' ?
JR74 The new hair cut is so cute! have fun with it. I want to cut mine too -on my 'list'.I am just 8 hrs post chemo and doing fine. The infusion went perfectly and lots of staff to help, educate and equip you with everything you may (will) need at home. The 2 anti-nausiants were awesome! (relaxing) and then a steroid version. Now, I'm feeling a little punky... like how it feels with you eat something that doesn't digest, you know? A little nausea, a little indigestion, a little headache, a lilttle hot (need fresh air) -ALL MANAGABLE.
Surprised I'm sleepy - so signing off til morning.
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Natster, aren't you starting chemo on Monday. Can you tell us more about the trial? Will they be giving you an additional drug (or placebo) or tweaking the timing of the typical drugs or what?
JR74, I think the new bob is really cute. Sorry about the tummy issues. :-(
Geneskirt, I hope your tummy settled and that you got some rest.
Lyn
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thanks for the kind words. My hair has never been this short! I actually went in planning to get some version of a "pixie" cut, but this is what I left with. The girl just couldn't bring herself to go that short lol. I think the convenience of this haircut would be awesome.. but I'm still not looking forward to hair loss. I've come to terms with it though. I finally had to give in and take a compazine. I'm feeling a wee bit sleepy so hopefully it does the trick with the nausea and helps with sleep as well. My mo doesn't want to prescribe anything for sleep unless she's has to because it can be habit forming. She recommended Benadryl.. I'm sorry I forgot I'm repeating myself! Good night ladies, here she to waking up side effect free, or as close as we can get! Xoxo
Ps. Please call me Jenn, or Jennifer
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Jennifer, your short hair looks great!!! hang in there your doing Amazing!! wishing you that it's manageable through out the week. I too felt flushed and my face was red. that was the drugs going through your system. I asked for some xanax before I left after getting chemo. they gave me a low dosage just so I can go to sleep after all the steroids. They didn't have an issue of prescribing this to me. Hopefully you will get some better rest today.
geneskirt Hi yeh I it has antioxidant properties but so does lots of food we eat. I'm not taking in much or using it in powder form. So far I really don't know if it's actually doing anything but I am not feeling any of the side effects hitting me bad. I am only on day 2 after chemo of AC and Nuelesta that was injected in my arm last night at 8:30. I had a gadget attached to my arm. I heard so many bad things about this drug that supposed to make your bones hurt and that is why I started taking claritin the day before and everyday so far. I will take claritin today again but thats it until my next appointment but I am going to continue on B6 vitamins every day. Maybe these things are helping me. I survived work and felt flushed at the end of day. I felt a bit off but nothing major. A little cramping but not even as bad if I had my period. I was able to eat fine through out the day and I did drink lots and lots of water with lemon and ginger pieces in it. I peed a lot so thats good. I'm taking the nausea medicine as they prescribed every 8 hours till Sunday but I don't feel nauseous. It's only 7am right now things can change for the worst later today or it can hit me tomorrow I really don't know what to expect anymore. Happy to hear your not having it bad either.
It seems we are all on different chemo combos so I guess we are all experiencing different side effects. So far from reading everyone is fairly well considering our situation. Wishing everyone a good day!!
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Chemo Thursday all went well. Nothing to report so far, neulasta shot yesterday. Been taking claritin since chemo day for that. Got two types of anti-nauseau infusions before TAC on chemo day. Drinking tons of water. Small meals, hungry all the time, probably the steroids? Roids will wear off today so waiting to see but hopeful. Have arsenal of meds just in case. Hang in there everyone!
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JR74 That's a smart stylist who tranistioned your hair cut to a bob before a pixie x.
Neulasta injection later today.
Girls, I think our hair caregivers are an important part of out 'team'. Yesterday at chemo I was encouraged to check out the wig salon right at the hospital breast cancer centre. Nurse said I could start 'shedding' as early as one week after my type of treatment (FEC-D) and expect hair loss this first month. I've been gathering the cutest crocheted toques and beanies and having been washing them like i'm expecting a baby lol. Haven't figured out the hair cut/ hair shave days yet.
Nausea is better this morning(18 hrs post on FEC-D).
FOR THE 1st time CHEMO-COMING GIRLS: I realized too late that should have eaten a more simple and smaller portion for my first meal after infusion. I think I felt so good on anti-nauseants (felt relaxed like I'd had 2 glasses of wine) that I had a bowl on creamy potato soup and bread. Not recommended -I burped for hours! (sorry- TMI lol). On my next infusion day I will stick to a nice fruit smoothie or clear soup, or maybe applesauce w/dry toast kind of meal).
TIP for those with the self-injection syringe type. I assigned the job to my husband to inject it!. The demo nurse taught him;) I felt it would help him feel involved and well informed as my 'chemo-coach' (he's reading the Nelasta user manual now!).
Traditionally, he tends to downplay health news when he's sharing with relatives and neighbors etc (like childbirth was 'a piece of cake for her' and 'the cancer isn't 'that bad', WTF? ?. I think it's his way of processing 'my wife is going to live' -poor dear. I feel people need to understand that chemo today is now medical home-care, closely monitored and QUITE serious. Actually, 25 years ago one would be admitted to hospital and have restricted visitors and limited visiting hours, etc.
For the girls without partners, the same goes for your key support person/girlfriend/sister... hope they get to be your medical partner as well.
P.S. I gave a funny little gift to my hubby at the chemo centre (and will each time) I really want him to know how much I love, need and appreciate him in his new duties along this scary journey we're sharing.HOME VISITORS
It's important to me that visitor's- call ahead
- don't visit when they are sick
- sanitize their hands at the front door
- use the 'guest bathroom' only (I'm not using that bathroom)
- No tears
- NO telling me stories comparing how their co-worker/ friend had it SO much worse than I do and THEY almost died....UHHH! I'm sure they mean well, but the reality is it's not their own story, you know? Having said that, I am moved to tears of inspiration when someone shares with me their own personal story. We become kindred and I know they 'get it'. LIKE ALL OF US HERE xxxx
We are all learning to reduce our risk of infection (myself, DH and my kids includedand togeher, be a positive and smart team of #CancerKillers
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Hello Ladies!
I am so far behind in reading all the posts and the positive energy coming from each of you. So inspiring!! My first treatment on Tuesday went well - scariest part was watching the nurse inject the red "A" into the IV. I did get a reaction to the "C" with my sinuses feeling like they were filling up and getting a bit of a headache - nurses said to be expected particularly as I am prone to sinus aches & pains when the seasons change. After treatment, felt well enough to have pizza & salad with my DH & SIL - definitely the steroids kicking in. Went back on Thursday for my Neulasta shot - my onc not crazy about the auto injector as they have had issues where the device falls off the arm so I'll be going back to the treatment center for the shots. Have been doing the Claritin routine (day before, day of & 3 days after) which seems to be working - I've been able to go for walks each day for 30 min with my DH - less than I normally walk but baby steps. Had a little bit of nausea Wednesday into Thursday & took the Compazine - seems to have subsided for now so stopped the meds & we'll see how it goes. Leaving later today to get my hair cut shorter - nurse said I should expect hair to start falling out in about 2 weeks. Felt a bit tired yesterday so took a nap mid-day in between meetings for work. Since I'm working from home during treatment, it's a nice plus to be able to do that. I am forever grateful for the flexibility I have with my job as I know some of us don't have that luxury.
Will read through all the posts and catch up on what I've missed. Fight the fight!!
#CancerKillers
Julianne
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this is the nuelesta gadget I came home with after I had chemo done. this flashed green every couple of seconds and then 27 hours later injected the medicine inside my arm for 45 minutes. the nurse explained that it's new and it can malfunction and if that happened then I would have to go back to the hospital in the morning but thank god it worked.
hey everyone I'm just checking in. I'm 48 hours into it after chemo of AC and nuelesta injection. I was feeling fine this morning, I actually went for a bike ride with my family and I made it through. Was able to look and function normal while my brother came for a visit with his family. My only issue so far is that my skin is tender to the touch at my neck, shoulder and face. Also my scalp is tender it's a very strange feeling. I don't fell the nausea and have an appetite probably because of the steroids.
Julianne, it sounds we are on the same chemo treatment of AC and nuelesta first or are you doing taxol at same time? did they tell you when you would feel the effects of the nuelesta. I keep waiting but so far nothing but skin being sensitive and I'm not sure if that is from that.
I am trying to drink a lot of water but I was never good at it before this and I just feel like I'm forcing my self. I know this is way too much information but I had my husband give me a massage with lemongrass essential oil and it helped a bit with the sore skin/muscles and then I was able to have a bowl movement finally. I think between the bike ride and the message did the trick. the doc mentioned that it's important to stay active. I hope I'm not pushing it and I will end up paying for it tomorrow.
Alla
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VLH - When I got my port put in, the surgeon said I had weird anatomy and some vein kept wanting to go into my arm. So I think he found it a bit tricky and I think I have an extra incision (same side as the port) because of it.
geneskirt - I'm glad your first infusion went well and I hope your side effects continue to be minimal.
Al12 - I do suggest you have some Imodium on hand though, if you don't already. Personally, I found that after not being able to go for a bit, I was suddenly going more than I wanted. Also drinking plenty of water does seem to help flush things out, but it can be hard to get down at times. And I say this as someone who was very big on drinking water (and nothing else) and would go through tons of it a day before starting treatment. For me, flavored packets that you can pour into water, or powdered mix for making iced tea/lemonade have been crucial in helping me get enough water each day now. Btw, thanks for posting a pic of your neulasta injector. I was curious what those looked like.
For me, it wasn't until about 4-5 days after the chemo that many of the main side effects I've experienced kicked in. I didn't do small, frequent meals and my stomach got rather upset. The best way I can describe it is feeling like someone was slowing blowing up a balloon inside my stomach. I eventually forced myself to throw up on purpose to get some relief and have tried to take more care since then.
So far, my side effects have been not as bad as I expected (on the ones I was worrying about in advance, like nausea, fatigue and bone pain), while at the same time being worse than expected (on things I hadn't been expecting at all, like dry mouth, dry eyes and skin irritation when using regular toilet paper). I'm finding ways to manage and things seem to be leveling off and getting a little bit better each day.
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Al12, I'm glad the Neulasta pod worked as designed.
Sandyrella, it's good to hear that your first treatment went well. :-)
Geneskirt, thanks for the tip on eating light. Some women have mentioned that potatoes, bread and other "white"foods were most appealing and digested well. Maybe cheese or onion in the soup was the problem? I'm thinking perhaps chicken noodle soup the first meal?
Julesbabe55, good to hear that nausea has been minimal.
Fightingthefight, interesting about the anatomy quirk. I got a patient portal report from the hospital of a post-insertion chest x-Ray. It said pneumothorax in the clinical history, but did that mean that my lung collapsed during the procedure or that they were ruling out a collapse? I know that's a risk of the surgery. Guess I'll request a copy of the operative report Monday to see what it says.
Lyn
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Alla, interesting stuff about the Neulasta gadget. I decided to post a photo of the Neulasta syringe they sent home with us. It was pretty straight forward. It went into my belly.
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Good evening! Seems like we're all chugging along. On one hand I feel better than I thought I would and on another I feel worse? It's a little strange. I had to get some eye drops, my eyes were so dry I could hardly open them! The drops help a lot! My tummy feels bloated like I need to take the senna but I'm scared that as soon as I do that the diarrhea may kick in. I'm a mess. But over all still feeling lucky! I wish I could reply to each one of you but I just can't seem to focus long enough, sorry! Xoxo, Jenn
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FightingTheFight , Thanks for the tip about day 4 to 5. I wonder if that's because we don't talk the anti-nausiants then? I will be busily back to work by then so I will need to plan carefully. There's alot to manage, huh?
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JR74, I'm seeing the bloating theme through us girls. Sucks. I'm using a heated throw right now... but I swing between being a little hot & stuffy feeling to needing some heat therapy. Alot of mixed up body messages here too.
Good luck with the eye drops -I've read that it can help quickly. xx -
Hello, this is my first visit here, and I'm sure it will be first of many.. I have my ECHO set for next Tuesday, my port placement next Friday. My standing 6 month dental visit is already set for the 18th, so I'm requesting chemo to start on Thursday the 20th. It will be 18 sessions every 3 weeks, followed by 6 weeks of radiation. All of a sudden, I am afraid of those drugs, but also afraid that they won't work fast enough. Nowhere else would I say this. Thank you for listening!
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Welcome b2alicia, though I'm sorry for the circumstance that's caused you to join us.
After my chemo education class, when they showed me the infusion room I'd be using, the nurse asked me if i had any dental appts scheduled. And, if so, recommended I avoid them b/c of how chemo could affect things. And seeing how sensitive my mouth became after chemo, I see why. So I'd just double check with someone on your care team and get their opinion.
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Thank you, Fighting, for your reply. This topic came up in my last visit with the P. A., since I had looked up that very thing online. The P.A. said it was a good idea to get the dentist/hygienist visit over with before the chemo starts... If I needed a filling or anything, that would delay the beginning of the chemo. But a simple cleaning should be fine. You are right, though... no dental work once chemo begins.
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Hi All,
Sad to be here...needless to say...
I start taxotere tomorrow in combination with xeloda. Any one else doing that combo?
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Welcome to our group, Teachermom2. I don't recall anyone else taking Xeloda, but think we have some ladies with Taxotere in their treatment plan. Please let us know how it goes tomorrow.
Lyn
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VLH thanks. It's is a reaccurance for me...mets to the bones and small spot on liver ;( once wants to be aggressive bc I had two hormonal stop working. Ugh.
I am also giving cold capping a try
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geneskirt wow they let you do the shot your self.
The gadget worked but they did mention that it does malfunction due to that is fairly new. That Nuelesta kicked my ass last night/morning. It was not like pain where I would cry but it was still pain. I think that taking claritin and B6 probably made it better. I'm not taking any chances with out it. I was fine during the day yesterday I did not have nausea at all I was a bit tired and flu like symptoms nothing major but as soon as the evening progressed my skin started to hurt. from the waist up if you touched me it hurt. my neck hurt and my skull felt like it was being squeezed. I slept ok but I woke around 4 with the same pain laying in any position hurt, my ribs hurt. I took tylanol and drank a lot more water. Seems that drinking water really helps. tylanol kicked in and I was fine. Today I feel ok not as drugged up as yesterday but def need a break here and there to sit or lie down. My body still feels sore but not like last night.
any one else have any effects with Nuelesta?
I wonder if this is how I will feel on my next cycle again or will it be worse. My next AC + Nuelesta is Oct 20th. 3 more to go.
Alla
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hello all,
I have been lurking the boards for a while now, but I haven't really posted yet. For some reason reaching out to others makes this all seem more real and much scarier. So I am going to start chemo on October 19. Neoadjuvant Taxotere, carbo, perjeta and Herceptin. I know AC with Herceptin is a possibility, but I had concerns about the heart toxicity and being that my doctors are west coast they prefer the UCLA protocol. Although I found out in the beginning of September, I have a little delayed start because I decided to do a cycle of fertility preservation prior to starting chemo. I had my chemo teaching on Friday and I am starting to feel extremely overwhelmed. I have managed to stay pretty positive during all of this, but all of the decision making is exhausting. Chemo first or surgery first? this chemo or that chemo? egg freezing first or not? Wig, cold caps or bald? If a wig, should I try to preserve my own hair? Should I ice my hands and feet during treatment? Should I take vitamin b to prevent neuropathy? Is all this delay just letting the cancer grow out of control? And on and on and on. I Can't help worrying that I am making the wrong decisions. I was never good at decisions. Anyways, thanks for "listening" to me rant.
Oh and one more thing- if I have to see one more pink ribbon, hear the term survivor, or one more mention of Pinktober, I think I am going to lose it.
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It's going to be ok. What ever you decide will be the right decision.
Take it one day or one moment at a time and it wont be as scary.
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Hi Lidabit, I just started posting too. I have the same "cocktail" that you do, and I have no idea how they decide who gets what. Or for how long. You have an added struggle about deciding what to do regarding fertility. Tough decision.
I think I will get my hair cut in a short crew cut before chemo starts, and get a wig at that time. Also I'm determined not to lose feeling in my hands and feet, so you and I can agree to ice them together!
I firmly believe that sharing a struggle can sometimes make it easier to bear. I'll keep in touch.
Betty
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AI12 - thanks.
B2alicia- thanks for the support. I tried to cut my hair yesterday and I just couldn't do it. I guess I could try again after it starts. We will get through it. I know it.
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Lidabit, it IS overwhelming! No one with cancer is "lucky," but I admit that I have sometimes envied those who saw a clear path from the beginning and didn't struggle with every decision along the way so I understand your anxiety.
Teachermom2, I'm so sorry about the recurrence. :-( I hope the cold capping lets you retain your hair.
Alla, knowing that the Tylenol and plenty of water helps with the Neulasta pain may help you head it off early next cycle.
Lyn
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My first chemo is tomorrow in Jacksonville FL. I planned on using the cold caps. However, due to Hurricane Matthew, the nurse who was to prepare them and show me how to use them, called and said there was no dry ice to be found. I'd talked to her this morning and she was sure she could find it. I have had my doubts ever since the storm hit so this isn't exactly a shock but it sure does bum me out.
I really shouldn't complain. We survived the hurricane with no damage to our home or family and just 2 blocks away, there was some major damage so we were very fortunate.
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