Is anyone forgoing regular Drs appointments?

Theresanne
Theresanne Member Posts: 90
edited October 2016 in Alternative Medicine

I am so tired of the agonizing anxiety related to these drs appointments...does anyone forego these in lieu if holistic treatments/or healthstyle changes

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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    those waiting rooms are so toxic with multiple microbs too

  • sandcastle
    sandcastle Member Posts: 587
    edited October 2016

    It, is such a stressor!! Waiting and then Pondering what will happen bringing everything Back that one went through....I do my BEST to have a healthy lifestyle...it seems like this never ends...The BEST thing is CALM....meditation, yoga and such.....Liz

  • Theresanne
    Theresanne Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2016

    I feel fine, but actually do not want to go to my appt. scheduled for tomorrow.....I think I am in need of an antidepressant...I have agonizing anxiety...which is the worst thing for this beast!

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited October 2016

    Hi guys. You don't have your stats posted so I'm not sure what goes on at your appointments but...being stage one my appointment lasted all of 5 minutes with an examination of my foobs and axillary region. Sort of a waste of time in my opinion!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2016

    I like seeing my doc. He does a very thorough physicsl exam, chest wall, lymph nodes, liver, listens to lung and heart, discusses test results etc.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2016

    No, because that would not be wise.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2016

    My MO works well with my ND, PCP, RO, and PT. My insurance covers the tests and imaging she orders. I'm not at a point where I can imagine trying to forget about cancer--with a BMX no recon, I'm most reassured by having multiple providers with different perspectives evaluating me, including hands-on exams every few months.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2016

    My regular every 5 months check up is coming again week after next and I'm incredibly anxious about it. As usual. I agree with everything posted here...at least my MO works with my ND and my NP/GP. But as we all know, just feeling fine doesn't mean much with bc. I quail every time my MO comes in the room because I know she's going to share blood work results, and I'm usually hyperventilating by then. I don't like taking Xanax, but I do on those check ups. I already meditate daily, yogas weekly, etc. but yes, I wish there was a better way to be monitored than these agonizing visits. Somehow I've got to reconcile that I'll have them for the rest of my life.Haven't gotten there yet.

    Claire

  • Theresanne
    Theresanne Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2016

    Sorry.....I was diagnosed withILC St 2a, grade 2, 0/7 nodes, er/pr+, her2 -. i had BMX with TAC chemo. No radiation, drs thought overkill ( at the time zi went with what the Drs said..had 5 opinions...but, I still dont know if its the right thing). I am 4 years out, and my anxiety has worsened. I was scheduled for an appt a few months ago...my six month, but had to cancel..my dog died that day...so I cannot get into see my Dr till January...I had the option of a PA, didnt want that. ..which is fine...I feel fine. I have my primary physicians appt in two days. I handled most of my appts till lately ok...but, the anxiety gets worse. three women I know locally had recurrences which sent me over the edge....oh, and I take a Femara along with a ton of changes in lifestyle since chemo ended...but I still get crazy scared...

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited October 2016

    I just love my oncologist and he is very good. He was my second opinion doc. I am 7 years out and its never a burden to go...I get checked out, have an exam and I'm then out of there. I think it would be very difficult if I didn't have a good rapport with my doc.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited October 2016

    Theresanne,

    Sorry you are feeling so much stress (and sorry your dog died recently)! I love my oncologist (she even notices when I get a haircut, when my husband doesn't), but I skipped my May appt., too. Not really because I was worried about anything, but because I was pissed that I can't get a ultrasound without a mammogram first (have dense breasts, and wanted just an ultrasound because I don't trust mammograms to see anything). Also, because I'm lazy. I haven't been to see my naturopath in a year and a half either!

    I understand the recurrence anxiety, which can be hard to keep at bay. Sounds like you have a lot of things going for you, though, and you are doing some good things to keep cancer at bay. Write them down and look at them everyday, or say them whenever you catch yourself feeling anxious. Maybe you could also ask your primary for a referral to a psychologist? I think cognitive behavioral therapy can be very helpful.

  • Theresanne
    Theresanne Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2016

    Thanks Fallleaves...you are very kind...yes, I think I need some psycholgical help. I ruin precious time with incredible daily anxiety...lots of fear

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited October 2016

    BIG hugs to you, Theresanne!

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited October 2016

    Last year I went for my yearly follow up with my BS. She had me take my top off, put my hands on my hips and she looked at my chest. That's it. No manual exam. I know that having had a bmx greatly reduced my chance of local recurrence, but jeez, shouldn't she have at least felt around a little. You get all stressed out for the exam and it turns out to be no exam at all. Next year she is sending me for an MRI, which will come with a big helping of anxiety, I'm sure.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    well it's on line now the two kinds of contageous cancer, both venerial diseases, one with dogs and the other hamsters, but I'm sure we all think about this and have always............another thought with so many hospitals closing down, privatization didn't work or was it that the pharmas and invasive procedures didn't work and now so much can be learned on line and done at home

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited October 2016

    Personally, I'm a helluva lot more worried about the possible consequences of letting things slide than I am of what the docs will find or do at each visit. It is what it is. But I'm pretty vocal about my preferences (within std-of-care parameters), priorities and comorbidities—and since I'm both a doctor's wife and a lawyer (not to mention a lifelong card-carrying hypochondriac), my care team respects my wishes.

    As to those sexually-transmitted viral "communicable cancers," if you refrain from getting amorous with dogs or hamsters (and practice safe sex with humans) you should be fine. As to germs in waiting rooms, hand sanitizers are your friend (and coughing or sneezing into your elbow are your fellow patients' friends).

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    it's the dogs getting amorous is the problem, it's their vd, if they get cancer from sex can transmit it to us as it's a contagous kind??

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    it's the dogs getting amorous is the problem, it's their vd, if they get cancer from sex can transmit it to us as it's a contagous kind??

  • motheroffoursons
    motheroffoursons Member Posts: 333
    edited October 2016

    Even if someone is sick enough to have sex with their pets, they still annot catch cancer. They are just perverts.   Cancer is a disease of your own cells and does not jump from animals to people.  Lots of things can cause cancer in some people.  It is "caused" and not "caught".

    That having being said, there are viruses such as the HPV virus that is a STD in people.  It does not "cause cancer" but down the road people who are HPV  positive (a lot of us)  have a slightly higher chance of developing mutations that can initiate cancer.  I just read that 80% of sexually active adults are infected with HPV at some point in their lives, but few develop cancer, and some develop it after many, many years.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    when the dog gets the cancer vd whose to say it's then not transferable'

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    not from having sex with the dog, but perhaps, say by sleeping with it

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited October 2016

    You cannot catch HPV any way except through sexual (oral, anal, or genital) intercourse with another human being. Your dog, by definition, cannot have HPV because that's “human" papilloma virus. It can only have the canine variety, which cannot infect or affect humans. Unless by “sleeping with" your dog you mean something more intimate than cuddling up in bed (and even if you do), you're still safe.

    “Contagious" sexually transmitted diseases cannot be spread by mere physical contact or “droplet" (airborne) infection. Your dog is valuable to your well-being, especially when you are ill, so don't worry—feel free to be a good “mama" to it.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    I have no pets. if cancer is contagous in some instances perhaps in those instances it can be passed through close contact

  • sandcastle
    sandcastle Member Posts: 587
    edited October 2016

    I, am down to going once a year...but I think that will Change....my BS spends a lot of time with me in talk and examine...but I always have the jitters when it comes that time to go....Liz

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited October 2016

    Momine, how is your chest wall being checked?

    I adore my oncologist in WA and we have an amazing rapport, but I freak out to stroke-out level EACH and EVERY time I know I am going--which is now annually. She is kind, gentle, sweet, informative, non-alarmist, soothing ....but the fear "it could happen again," for me, never goes away. Same with my gyn-nurse-provider...amazing woman but I still reach stroke-level stress. My onco rx valium for me so I can take it before a doc appointment, but I have not done that yet.

    I will be having a dental implant and I may take it then!!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited October 2016

    No, Abigail—not all “contagious” diseases are spread in the same way. There are all kinds of contagion—e.g., contact (door handles, shaking hands), droplet (airborne), blood-to-broken skin (needle stick) and sexual transmission. HPV and CPV are sexually-transmitted viruses. “Close contact”—even CPV if two dogs snuggle together without mating--does NOT spread them!!!!!!!!!!!

    You can catch toxoplasmosis from cat feces, tick-borne diseases from animals that have diseased ticks that bite you, and rabies from the bite of a rabid animal—but you cannot "catch cancer,” not even the virus that predisposes to developing it, from an animal!!!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2016

    Here's CDC's fact sheet on zoonotic diseases, which may be helpful.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2016

    instead of deet perhaps a few essential oils in a carrier oil base, say geranium for the c arrier and laverndar, peppermint, rosemary for the others in a spray bottle

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2016

    Wallycat, the doc puts his hands on me basically. He carefully feels, millimeter by millimeter, for any thickening, bumps, lumps or other changes. I do the same myself regularly, but a different set of hands can't hurt. Anything suspicious gets ultrasounded or biopsied (FNA). THis is my surgeon, who is my lead doc. He only does breast cancer, so he has experience with what to feel and look for. He also feels up my liver for anything untoward, coupled with blood tests. We also do an annual chest x-ray and liver ultrasound

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited October 2016

    WOW. Thorough. My doc does the whole lungs, palpate liver/belly, and feeling scar tissue, chest area but no xrays, labs or ultrasounds...yet.

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