Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Teka, thanks for the birthday wishes. I assure you it was a great birthday. Everyday when I wake up ( and especially on my birthday ) and my chest is moving in and out I jump out of bed knowing I have another fantastic day to try and make someone ( even if it is only feral cats that day ) happy and peaceful with sort of gift. Food, some joy, a smile or two, a bit of conversation --- and something that is so important -- just listening to someone while trying to understand what they are truly saying. Life is such a gift.

    Chevy, I loved the David Doring video. I especially am fond of pan flute music. Mr. Doring's was extra nice I thought with the beautiful setting --- in the middle of some rocks on a mountainside in the mountains, then beautiful flowers. It just seems the perfect setting for pan flute music. I have a favorite pan flutist. Zamfir. He designs and builds his own pan flutes and has even added a couple of extra notes to his though that is not something I would notice since I don't read music or know anything much about it except what sounds pleasing to me. Anyway -- after listening to Zamfir I really have to 'study' my surroundings a bit because I feel like I've been away somewhere after I listen to his music.

    Dara, yes, yes, yes --- Chevy and Cammi are total cut-ups here. Usually keep us in stitches here. Some people have talent and if we can ever get Cammi sobered up enough to get back here, ah. Well we can hope.

    Nice semi-fall day here. Not starting out too warm thank goodness. Hope it stays nice. I dusted my car yester ( but my there was so much dust on it ) rather than do a washing. Trying to hold off since I have a little extra work to do till Sunday night.

    Sandra I am thinking about you and Mike with my fingers crossed so hard their cramping. Sending love and care to you both.


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited September 2016

    AhHah! Yes.... getting the Cam-miester sobered up is aNOTHER thing... She has this sort of "job" where she pretends she is running this plumbing ..... uh..... company. So I think, from what I understand, that she takes "calls" on her old-time corded telephone.... you know.... like we used to have.... And I think then she sends her guys out on calls.... so she says....

    Actually, she is one of my favoritest people in the world.!!! Never met her OR Jackie, but there is just something about people, that just wiggle into your heart, and stay there, forever.

    Yes, I can tease her, but she can really give it back.... Would someone please tell her we are talking to her, so she had better wake up? She'll probably sleep now, until maybe Monday morning!

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2016
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    The mighty hunter --- standing tall and proud !!!! Yeah.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2016

    Such lovely eyes!

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited September 2016

    It's been a tough fight, but it appears Mike is in remission from Acute Myeloid Leukemia. No one expected him to respond like this, especially since his recovery from the harsh chemo was derailed by three infections, two blood clots, and paralytic ileus, a serious complication. His blood counts were in the toilet for weeks, but once he started getting better, they rose quickly. A bone marrow biopsy showed the percentage of leukemia in his body was 0%. His doctor kept saying, "This is GREAT!!" After 10 days of outpatient testing, 44 days as an inpatient, and 5 more days of outpatient treatment at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Mike got a short 5 day break. (They wanted his lab tests to show higher levels and for him to get a bit stronger before he begins more chemo on Monday.) We were allowed to come home to San Antonio as long as he got daily treatment at our hospital here. (He gets daily IV antibiotics, potassium and magnesium. It's been nice to sleep in our own bed, but we have to go to the hospital every morning (including Sat. & Sun.) at 7:30 a.m. and we don't finish until mid-day. Mike is very weak. He cannot stand by himself but once I get him to standing, he can usually manage with a rollater for a little bit. Most of the time I have him in a wheelchair. He can't get up and down from the toilet, can't get in or out of the bed, etc. It's been a stressful and worrisome few days since Mike has fallen several times. Scares me to death. He's down to 145 lbs now from his usual 220-230. BUT, he's still alive and the doc says he might stay in remission for months.

    I'm physically and mentally exhausted but now is not the time to rest yet. We drive back tomorrow afternoon.

    Mike's bone marrow donor, his sister Lisa, lost her husband Brian this week. He had brain cancer, diagnosed 3 months ago...he was only 45. Not fair.


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited September 2016

    Thinking of you Sandra.... Don't know how I would find the strength to go on.... either one of you.... So glad that at least you both have something to hang on to! A little bit of good news is ALWAYS welcome! Sorry about his Sisters' Husband... No.... it isn't fair... No-one can explain why these things happen....

    I just know that we never give up hope! Like you..... God bless both of you!

  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited September 2016

    Sandra, So glad to hear you get good news. It has been such a long road for both of you. Praying for you both.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited December 2016

    Sandra, would be a blessing if some help caring for Mike at home.

    Sorry for Lisa with the passing of Brian.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    You will find when you look back upon your life, that the moments when you have really lived are the moments when you have done things in the spirit of love.

    Henry Drummond

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Sandra, I took am so pleased at your news -- even knowing that it has been such an uphill climb every minute of every day. I've always said it is amazing what you can do when you have no choice and that really makes me think of you. We all here I feel look up to you, but part of that is our desire to try and help you hold on and hold up. I hope you have some time along the way here for yourself -- to re-charge a bit --- even if it is just a good cry.

    Sad to hear about your and Mike's brother-in-law Brian. Some life lessons are so painful and not fair. Prayers for Lisa and your whole family.

    Jackie

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited September 2016

    Sandra....so glad for the remission. I can only imagine how hard all this has been on both of you. Sending hugs and continued prayers for recovery for Mike and strength for you, dear.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2016

    Sandra - Thanks for sharing the positive news. Sending you strength.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2016

    Sandra, terrific news about Mike—he will get stronger. Meanwhile, best healing wishes for him getting through the next round of chemo—you know what they say about having to break a few eggs to make an omelet…

    So sorry for his BIL Brian (may his memory be for a blessing), and prayers for Lisa’s comfort and consolation, as well as patience and strength for you (and for some much-needed help in caregiving).

  • Luvmaui
    Luvmaui Member Posts: 86
    edited September 2016

    We've been in San Antonio since Wed attending a conference and thinking of you every day, Sandra and Mike. So happy for the progress Mike has made.........now he needs to gain some strength and weight and you need some rest!

    We don't experience many thunderstorms in our neck of the woods so it's been rather exciting to watch a wild one this afternoon with more on the way. Oregon also doesn't have this much humidity........86 degrees and 90% humidity? We walked to the Alamo, a block from the Hyatt on the Riverwalk, and I hardly made it back! Tomorrow we plan to drive to the Hill Country and Austin so hoping it's a bit cooler. Tues we''re flying home and the weather girl on TV just reported it should cool down and clear up here on Tues.....Just my luck, lol.


  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2016

    Luvmaui, what you said about T-storms in the PNW underscores the misconceptions so much of the country has about that region. I spent 7 years in Seattle, on the “wet side of the mountains,” and the rain we had almost daily from Oct-May ran the gamut from mist to drizzle. At my bridal shower in Brooklyn, one gift I got was a big clear plastic “bubble” umbrella. I hardly ever used it. After we moved here to Chicago in summer ’78, it seemed as if there were at least one heavy-duty storm every few days; the first time I heard “tornado watch” on the radio I wondered why nobody was dashing for cover. And on my first trip up to Madison to visit my sister (w/o benefit of GPS or road map, just general directions) we were tooling along I-90 just w. of Rockford when we heard “tornado spotted near Beloit, WI.” We figured we were still in IL and thought nothing of it, till we saw a sign announcing the “S. Beloit” exit. Turned my gaze to the NW just in time to see the funnel retreat back into the dark cloud from which it came.

    I lived through three small quakes in Seattle (plus another when I went back for an alumni reunion) and shrugged them off. But now 38 years after moving to Chicago, I still occasionally get nightmares about being on a high floor in a glass-walled luxury condo and seeing twisters on the horizon, with no time to get to the basement.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils" rhetoric. Cause, you know, I'm flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and even Michelle Obama is flawed. But the difference between all of them and me--and probably you, is that they have all given their flawed lives to public service. And now, they are all working together in their inevitably flawed ways, to save all of us, and the whole world from a sociopathic narcissist. And every day, Hillary puts a hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest on her flawed and aging and sometimes unsmiling self and stands up in front of people who have been incited by her opponent to shoot her, and she says calm and rational and intelligent (and sometimes flawed) things about how to make a difference. In my book that makes her a fucking rock star. And in the words of another flawed and resilient rock star. There is a crack in everything. That's where the light gets in.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Listen to your life. See it for the fathomless mystery that it is. In the boredom and pain of it no less than in the excitement and gladness: touch, taste, smell your way to the holy and hidden heart of it, because in the last analysis all moments are key moments, and life itself is grace.



    Frederick Buechner

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    The peace of one individual is small.The peace of many people together is big.When we see ourselves as separate from our community and from nature, then violence and strife arise.It is only when we understand our part in an overall unity that there is the possibility of peace on a large scale. -Deng Ming Dao

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Cooler this week and that is so welcome for so much of what we will be having to do. Storms seemed to have moved out and that is good. I can get busy with a lot of projects that are just un-pleasant to do in hot, humid weather.

    Extra work yesterday but only a couple of hours so not bad. Still getting the over-abundance of my cousin's garden with tomatoes. Our yard, despite having lost some trees the past few yrs. remains way too shady for a garden. Glad to still have tomatoes that are fresh and home grown.

    Still laboring under the need to get a walking program and regular exercise going again. It is starting into 'have too' territory. My clothes while still fitting are doing so a whole lot differently then they were two or three months ago so I can't put it off any long. Figuring the cooler weather will allow me to get out and get walking which is one of the best all round exercises for older young people to do. I have one of those stretchy bands as well --- and that works great when you are sitting watching t.v.

    Anyway, off and running for the day. See you all later.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited September 2016

    What a treat to check in and read a post from Cammie!!!!! I've missed your wit and humor and your conversation about Joey. Please check in more often. You, too, Chevy. The two of you are a comedy team and give us some much-needed laughter.

    Sandra, great news about Mike. What a battle he has fought and is fighting. And how grueling it has all been for you. Hugs to you both.

    I am VERY ready to head south even if it means a period of sweat dripping down my nose. It was in the 40's when we got up this morning. I pulled some sweat pants over my exercise shorts and a sweat shirt over my tee shirt when I dressed to go to the gym. Afterwards we had breakfast at Great Northern, one of our breakfast places, and ran some errands.

    Shortly after we got back to the camper, it started raining. Outside it is gray and dreary. So it's a good day to be inside and warm and cozy.

    Our cargo trailer is parked outside. Yesterday we took care of winterizing the boat and outboard and getting it securely covered with a tarp that should shed the snow. I'm hoping we will be packed up and departing by the weekend.

    Greetings and good wishes to everyone.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited September 2016

    It's a lovely cool, sunny day in east central Illinois today. There is a nice breeze and it's near to perfect! I bowled this morning and then had to make a grocery run so I missed quite a bit of the day but I'm enjoying it now.

    Carole, travel safely back to the south! We won't be heading south until January 1st.

    Jackie, my yard is alot like your yard....to shady to grow much of anything. One of my friends gave me a lovely purple aster plant for my birthday. I have watered it faithfully and have tried it in all different spots in the yard but it is nearly dead. My neighbor tells me that I don't have enough sun anywhere in the yard to sustain an aster so.......

    I'm off to enjoy the outdoors for a bit. I hope everyone is having a great day.


  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited September 2016

    I turned off my A/C yesterday morning, and at bedtime figured all I’d need was the ceiling fan. Woke up a couple hours later and turned that off, too. When it becomes necessary to turn the heat back on, I’ll need both the ceiling fan and an open window. But till then, I’ll enjoy the good sleeping weather!

    Squirrels didn’t touch my tomatoes, which are now refusing in the slightest to ripen on the vine (not even the tiniest “blush” at the bottom). Have a windowsill full of ones now at peak ripeness. Might have to buy a couple for the interim between using them up and picking those on the vine. Picked some Concord grapes, which this year are very sweet—and the skins are barely tannic. Gotta fight the birds & squirrels for those.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    You cannot fail at being yourself.A cat doesn't try to be a tiger, and you shouldn't try to be something you aren't.You are a process, not a product.Your job is to discover what you are and to create that creature. You still won't be perfect, but success isn't about perfection--it is about authenticity.You are a success if you are being your real, authentic self.


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    Bernie Siegel
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Morning, though it is somewhat dreary out. I don't think rain was in the forecast so I'll hope only clouds. It is remaining fairly cool and our a/c hasn't been on now for at least 3 days. Not sure we will need it any more this yr. but we could have a surprise. We do keep a fan on for a little bit off and on to just circulate the air while the doors are closed. Dh is too chilly to open the doors too early ---- so the fans have to do the work

    I think the majority of nuts are out of the trees now so we can start parking on the driveway again. Dh talked about putting up a carport -- and we could but that would be another "roof" to clean stuff off of when we have leaves, small limbs ( hopefully not too big a ones ) and nuts coming down through the year. So, we will see. Always lots to think about when you think of changing something.

    I may go get some allergy meds ( OTC ) later. The Spring and Fall are always a bit challenging since my sinuses drain a lot more then.

    Hope you are all going to have a fantastic day.


  • DaraB
    DaraB Member Posts: 945
    edited September 2016

    I'm envious of the cool temps you have Jackie. We're still pretty warm here, around 100, and hot dry winds have been fueling the fires here in CA. It's not unusual, but I'm so very ready for cooler temps. It's heartbreaking when we see all the fires all over the state. My DSIL is a firefighter, and even if he's not out on a fire, he gets forced with overtime to cover for those who are out on the lines. with the heather here, allergies are rampant. I started taking mine again this morning. You had me drooling yesterday talking about those homegrown tomatoes. We don't have the room for a garden here so I really miss the flavors of real tomatoes!

    Hope you all have a good day also.

    Sandra, hope your DH continues to gain strength. Take care.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    The less I take the difficulties of my life as personal affront,
    and the more I use them as an opportunity to learn and grow...
    the easier I sleep at night.
    - Mary Anne Radmacher

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited September 2016

    Hi everyone,

    My cousin just emailed to tell me her husband is terminal- do they still use that word? He has amyloidosis. He has been sick for almost a year now, and has gone steadily downhill, regardless of any treatments. But they have never hinted that he might not recover from this. They just went to the Mayo Clinic and after a general check-up, the Dr asked how he has felt since he stopped chemo. Marshall said pretty much the same, and that's when the Dr said there is nothing else to do. He also mentioned that Marshall has melanoma as well as the amyloidosis. My cousin has asked me to ask if any of you have ever known anyone with this, and most of all wants to know if anyone has any ideas of other methods of healing this, besides conventional medicine.

    I am working on trying to find grants and scholarships for my grandson. His parents can't afford to pay for college, and I can't help. It is extremely frustrating. I have had a lot of trouble getting on the sites, and now that I am on, I click on the apply button, and nothing happens.

    I have also had to call back the cleaning service I had for the wedding. My house is not getting cleaned well by my daughter- she does a top cleaning, which includes vacuuming and mopping the floors, cleaning the countertops in the kitchen and bathrooms, and swiping the toilets. In her defense, she does work full time, but I did a better job when I was working and raising 5 kids.

    I "picked-up" today before they came. It was a great awakening to me. The three grandchildren that have rooms here- the one that lives here and the other two that are here every afternoon have no idea what "clean your room" means. I know that my DD has no organization skills- it is part of her learning disabilities, but I guess their dad isn't interested in helping them learn how either. Cleaning up to them means take it off the floor and put it on top of any furniture, or shove it into the closet or a corner. Doug's problem is mainly not bringing his dishes, cups and wrappers out of his room.

    The worst of it is that every where I tried to put something away was a total mess. I cleaned out the pantry, and Victoria, Kayden, and Alexandria's clothes, but everywhere I look, I find things that need to be cleaned, like under the sink, or a drawer in the kitchen. I guess with all the traveling, I just haven't noticed. Guess I won't be complaining about being bored for awhil

    Anne

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    I believe that the first test of a truly great person is his or her humility. I do not mean by humility, doubt of his or her own powers.But really great people have a curious feeling that the greatness is not in them, but through them. And they see something divine in every other person.
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2016

    Anne, I am sorry to hear that your cousin's Dh is terminal. I think the word is still used. I am un-aware of anything else that can be done but it never hurts to look at and research ( quickly ) anything that might present. We never know when the time will come for new discoveries. I do not see it as a high possibility here as you probably don't either, but I don't believe in giving up hope because we never know which soul will be the one who comes by a miracle.

    I hope you are able to figure out some way to help your grandson. Since I don't get along most of the time well at all with computers I can feel the frustration big time. Do you think it is not working because maybe they are out of funds right now?

    Frustrating too that things can't get cleaned up. At least the kids rooms, but it takes a lot of energy to "keep" on checking and having the kids do their rooms. I've certainly that feat that kids have of hanging things on the floor in the corner on in the middle of an un-made beg. The young ones don't make it easy. Sounds like a case of having to clean before the cleaning lady comes. Hope it all gets better and you don't have to fret over it so much.

    Woke up to rain beginning shortly after I got up. Looks calm now. I have something of a sore throat. Been fighting my sinuses and it simply could be that as I feel just fine. So, keeping my fingers crossed.

    Hope you all have a good and if possible non-rainy day though we are getting those cooler temps. so I can't complain. It is easy to be outside as of late.


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