Iron Infusion and Procrit--what to do??

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Phoebegal
Phoebegal Member Posts: 10

Ladies: Hoping that someone has had a similar experience that can shed some light on what choices I will make.

I am anemic (moderate) but enough to cause most of the symptoms of severe anemia. Breathing problems, fatigue (can't even walk across the room) etc. and it is affecting my quality of life to an extent that I am questioning whether I can go on.

I was on femara and Ibrance but that stopped working after a year (the Ibrance was the culprit for the anemia) I began to feel much better after being off the Ibrance. Then I tried faslodex which did not work at all. I am now on Afinitor and Exemestane and the fatigue grows worse by the day. My onc wants me to have iron infusions and Procrit. The side effects are frightening and I am not sure what to do. I will have to have iron infusions before my insurance will cover the Procrit (which will then be more effective). However, I have read that the Procrit increases tumor growth and decreases life expectancy. My former onc was vehemently against it for that reason. However, I left her because she would not address quality of life issues and could not recognize progression.

It is possible that iron infusions without Procrit might address the anemia symptoms but those side effects are frightening too. I plan to talk to my onc this week about the whole issue.

Has anyone had any similar experiences? Thanks.

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  • Groovywilma
    Groovywilma Member Posts: 450
    edited August 2016

    Hi there! My experience is different. I am anemic due to treatment, so I have been taking the Procrit injections for the last month and a half. We did not discuss iron infusions. Yes, the side effects sound bad, as far as possibility of increased tumor growth. We have to always weight the good versus the bad in our own personal situations. Let me know if you have any procrit questions. I'm injecting them myself. Still getting used to that! Good luck!



  • pwilmarth
    pwilmarth Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2016

    Procrit and Chemotherapy

    Procrit website

    Epoetin and Darbepoetin Treatment for Adults With Cancer

    It appears to be contraindicated in cancers of the bone marrow.

    PROCRIT® should not be used for treatment of anemia: •If you have cancer and you are receiving hormones, biologic products or radiation therapy unless also receiving chemotherapy at the same time.

    •If you have cancer and you will not be receiving chemotherapy that may cause anemia for at least 2 more months.

    •If you have a cancer that has a high chance of being cured.

    •In place of emergency treatment for anemia (red blood cell transfusions).

    I can understand your concerns, but Procrit is often given to dialysis patients for the same reason - to stimulate the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. Patients receive it without adverse effects for years.

    So this is a quality of life issue. Do you take the Procrit and receive the benefit of increased red blood cells and more energy?

    Or do you decline the Procrit with the understanding that you are not going to feel as well as you could because of the anemia.

    I don't have an easy answer for you. But it's a risk-vs-benefits situation and only you can decide what feels comfortable for you.

  • pwilmarth
    pwilmarth Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2016

    Published online 2014 Nov 11

    Erythropoietin and Cancer: The Unintended Consequences of Anemia Correction

    A plethora of scientific evidence demonstrates a growth-promoting, anti-apoptotic action of EPO and other ESAs on non-hematopoietic cells, both normal and malignant, and this is supported by numerous clinical observations showing adverse effects of EPO administration on the clinical management of tumor growth and progression. As anticipated just a few years ago, physicians who care for anemic cancer patients have been facing a dilemma, whether to treat the anemic patient with an ESA, thereby potentially increasing the risk of worsening the malignancy, or to withhold ESA treatment, with resultant patient fatigue, reduced physical activity, increased hypoxic stress, and reliance on transfusion therapy. Primary tumors are not yet EPOR typed (like breast cancers are assessed for ER/PR expression) though this idea should be considered. There has been much discussion of EPO use in cancer patients, and several professional and regulatory organizations and authorities have issued various guidances. Perhaps, the following "rule" used by several clinicians interviewed by one of the authors should be considered. If the cancer patient is being treated with curative intent, avoid the use of ESAs. If the treatment plan is more conservative or palliative, consider ESAs for anemia treatment, but proceed with great caution

  • Phoebegal
    Phoebegal Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2016

    pwilmarth: My onc wants to use the Procrit to treat the anemia (seems like that is not what should be done). I am also on hormone treatment as well as an oral chemo. That is my concern. Seems as though this contradicts what I have learned.

    I do not think that I will take the procrit, although the iron infusion is still on the table. Assuming of course, that the anemia is from the meds.

    It is really hard to know who to trust. My onc is also a hematologist. You would think that he would know this.

  • pwilmarth
    pwilmarth Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2016

    I'm guessing that he does know it, but is operating with the intent to offer improved quality of life for you. It's quite a statement when you say you "feel like you can't go on".

    There's a lot of references to stem cells and genetic testing and most of the concerns with EPO are related to specific mutations - one of them being the mechanism for the development of resistance to anti-HER2 treatment (Herceptin). It doesn't sound like the science has advanced enough for them to make predictions based on genetic subtypes, so the advice to proceed with caution is well-meant.

    Probably the best answer is a trial of transfusions to see if this improves your quality of life.

  • Phoebegal
    Phoebegal Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2016

    Thank you so much for your information and encouragement!!

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