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Irish65
Irish65 Member Posts: 18

I am finishing up rads this Friday and go back to see MO on 6/29 when he will prescribe me either Tamoxifen or Lupron + an AI (don't know which one if any he prefers). I am on the edge of menopause at 50 yo and not crazy about the risks of Endometrial Cancer and clots with Tamoxifen so I may opt for the Lupron and AI (which MO is in favor of). I've read a lot of posts about side effects, esp the joint pain, being better or worse depending on the brand of generic that is taken. I'd love to know your experience with this to see if there one brand that seems to be better overall or if it is a person by person type of thing.

Also, if there is anyone out there who has done the Lupron route this close to menopause, I'd love to know how long they kept you on the Lupron - my concern is how will they know when I am actually in menopause and don't need it any longer? I don't want to take the Lupron for 5 years if I only really need it for 2 years for example.

Thanks!

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2016

    Hi Irish and welcome to Breastcancer.org!

    We just wanted to pop by to let you know you've joined an incredible Community here and you're sure to get some advice and answers from our members soon.

    Please keep us all posted on what you decide!

    --The Mods

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2016

    I started out with Watson (now called Actavis), few side effects in the first month. Then my pharmacy switched to Mylan and within a couple days I was getting constant hot flashes and leg cramps. I found a pharmacy that was willing to order the Actavis so that's what I've been taking for the past 3-4 months. I still get hot flashes and leg cramps, but a little less than before. So I don't really know if the generic brand makes a difference. Some say that side effects peak at 6 weeks, I think that happened with me. I might try Teva next time just to compare.

    As far as blood clots, I've been taking a baby aspirin to prevent. I really wanted to take an AI but I have osteoporosis so I couldn't start with that. Have you already had a bone density test? Sorry I don't have any info about Lupron. I'm sure someone here will give you some information on that. Take care!

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited June 2016

    Hullo, Irish - I've been on generic Femara for almost 20 months. In that time I've had almost no side effects, certainly no joint pain or trigger thumb, etc. My pharmacy has variously provided generics produced by Breckenridge, Sun (I think?) and Teva and I've noticed no difference between them. FWIW, CVS seems to favor Teva, so if you do well with that generic you might have good luck requesting it at CVS.

    Good luck as you move on to the next phase of treatment. I hope the AIs (or Tamox) work out well for you.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited June 2016

    The CVS in my neighborhood stocks Accord, and the Walgreen’s sells Sun. My husband (a cardiologist) says his patients report the fewest side effects and best results across the board with Teva generics. Someone earlier posted lists of inactive ingredients (dyes, talc, fillers, etc) for Femara, and the generics from Sun, Accord & Teva--Femara had the fewest (and fewest reported SEs here), followed by Teva, Accord and Sun. My indie pharmacy said they’d order Teva for me, but the first couple of months could get only Roxane (at $9/mo)--which barely bothered me. I looked up its inactive ingredients, and it has even fewer than Femara (which I bought for an arm and a leg from CanadaDrugs.com). Unfortunately, my pharmacy isn’t always able to get Roxane. It’s all moot pricewise, since my Part D carrier insists I first try “step therapy,” i.e., “failing” generic anastrazole before they’ll pay for any letrozole, whether branded or generic. The Teva is costing me $27/mo (Roxane went up to $17), so it’s pretty doable out-of-pocket, and it doesn’t count towards kicking me into the dreaded “donut hole” of no coverage at all for anything.

  • Merymete
    Merymete Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2016

    Hi Irish65, I'm 54 and have Lupron injections and Femara. My doc checked my FSH levels, which were not quite low enough to be considered post-menopausal. (I can't take tamoxifen due to drug interactions.) The plan is to keep me on Lupron injections for one year, then stop them and re-check levels. I'm assuming I'll pause the Femara on the off-chance that I'm still not fully postmenopausal, looking forward to that.


    My only SE on Femara are the hot flashes. Joints are great, no mood swings.


    Good luck to you

  • Irish65
    Irish65 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2016

    Thanks to all for the info! Side effects from a drug that can prevent a recurrence are one thing but side effects from fillers are unacceptable to me!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited June 2016

    Another consideration (and according to my shrink, a dirty little secret of drug companies) is that unlike what doctors, drugstores, insurers and generics mfrs. tell you--i.e., “generics are pharmacologically identical to brand-name drugs”--by law a generic must contain at least 75% of the active ingredient of the original patented brand-name drug. That's right--the generic letrozole or anastrozole you're taking may have only 3/4 the amount of the active ingredient in Femara or Arimidex even though the dose stated on the generic’s label is identical to that on the brand-name’s label.....and that's perfectly legal! (And there’s no way to determine that except by independent lab assay). That's probably why my husband finds his patients do better on Teva generics than on other generics, across the board, regardless of what type of drug (AI, antihypertensive, statin, antibiotic, painkiller, whatever). That and the fewer inactive ingredients that can trigger allergies or sensitivities.


  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited June 2016

    I'd forgotten about that, Sandy. It's pretty horrifying, isn't it? I've been on generic femara since day 1 and have done well with it but it makes me wonder if I might have had pCR if I'd been getting the real thing... On the other hand, if I'd had pCR I wouldn't be in the Neuvax trial, so maybe I should just let that go...

    Still, I might raise the question with my MO next month. Thanks for the heads up.

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited June 2016

    Is anyone familiar with the activas brand of Tamoxifen? That's what my CVS uses. It says formerly Watson if that is familiar.I will be getting my script in a couple weeks and want to figure out where to get it filled. Thanks

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited June 2016

    I just started Tamox today. gulp. Mylan is the labler. If the SEs are a bit much (I already have joint issues big time) am I hosed with Tamox or are there other lablers available to try? I thought Tamox was Tamox now I'm a bit confused.

  • downdog
    downdog Member Posts: 1,432
    edited June 2016

    Arista, tamoxifen is the generic name of the drug. AstraZeneca's patent on Novaldex expired in the early 2000s, opening up the generic market. Teva, Mylan, and Watson seem to be the most common manufacturers in the US. The FDA requires generic manufacturers to demonstrate that their drug has the same bioequivalence - delivers the same amount of the active ingredient in the same time frame as the brand name drug. There is no requirement for the fillers to be identical, so variations in the non-medicinal ingredients exist and this is what is attributed to the differing SEs that some women experience amongst differing brands. From the threads I've read on this forum about brands and the frequency and magnitude SEs, Teva users were more likely to experience fewer SEs. We all respond differently and with differing levels of sensitivities, so you may be fine with Mylan. If not, it is worth exploring another brand to see if it affects you to a lesser degree. Maybe you'll be lucky and experience negligible SEs. Joint issues are more commonly experienced with AIs than tamoxifen; muscle cramps and achiness are a more frequent SE with tamoxifen.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited June 2016

    Thanks downdog!

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