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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2006

    What dose are you taking? I just ordered some cause I couldn't find it locally and I also couldn't figure out from the research report what dose they used.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited November 2006
    My tablets are 600 IU.
    It's not like regular vitamin E. It's dry. Solgar makes them.
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited November 2006
    It's hard to tell what units they used. At the Mayo web site they discuss conversions to IU, but it's a bit beyond me.

    They say that 1,000 IU per day is the max you should do. Vitamin E has some blood thinning qualities I think you wouldn't want to overdo.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2006

    I think that 0.1 micromol/L is equal to 100 mgs. But it could also be mcgs. I can't find a conversion table yet for it. I wish they'd speak in words like milligrams that we know. I'll keep looking. Thanks.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2006
    There is a lot of chatter out there on Vitamin E and breast cancer. One article suggested that Vitmain E plus tamoxifen reduced the endremetrial hyperplasia tamoxifen can cause.

    I'm not taking any other fancy vitamins or supplements. I think I can justify the cost of Vitamin E and hold with that. It was about $25 for the bottle. So I'm glad I looked around at it some more. The Succinate is what appears in the more official studies.

    None of it is very well substanciated. I got the 600IU because that's what they had, I don't think I'd go over 1000IU just on prinicple.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited December 2006
    They're still writing about the importance of taking vitamin D:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=54348

    And this about taking a greater then 900 mg of calcium daily.

    http://www.breastcancersource.com/breastcancersourceHCP/6096_25622___.aspx

    Women with specific genetic variants in the vitamin D receptor (VDR) could cut their risk of breast cancer if they eat enough calcium, study findings suggest.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2007
    Hair loss, I just finished listening to a Dr. discussing the vitamins and minerals that she recommends to her patients:

    Getting enough protein, she said this was important
    Omega 3
    B6
    B12
    folic acid
    zinc
    magnesium
    biotin

    If taking the above doesn't help within a few months' time, then it won't help. There could be other reasons for the loss.
  • Auntbiz
    Auntbiz Member Posts: 81
    edited February 2007
    Rose,
    I was taking between (still am) 800 to 1,000 IU of vitamin E and I had problems with the lining of my uterus still, My oncolgist suggested vit E for hot flashes. Not sure if it eally worked or not.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited May 2007
    I began reading this article on vitamin D never dreaming it was about a Dr. who is conducting research on women fully knowing it could harm those women by not giving them enough vitamin D for years. I'm in shock. She still has her license to practice? Why isn't this being shut down?

    http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/newsletter/2006-mar.shtml
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited May 2007
    High dose multi-vitamins linked to prostate cancer

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-05/jotn-mu051007.php

    We'll have to keep on eye on our dosages also.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited June 2007
    CHICAGO - High doses of folic acid do not prevent precancerous colon polyps in people prone to them and may actually increase the risk of developing the growths, a new study finds.

    It's the latest evidence that taking too many vitamins may be harmful. Last month, a study linked heavy vitamin use to fatal prostate cancer, and other research has shown beta-carotene pills can heighten smokers' risk of lung cancer.

    The results surprised scientists. Previous studies showed diets low in folic acid led to a higher risk of colon cancer.

    Now researchers speculate that some folic acid helps — as long as the colon is free of microscopic cancer cells. But once cancer starts, folic acid may feed its growth.

    Some scientists who reviewed the new findings said folic acid fortification, now required in some U.S. foods, should not be increased and that other nations considering fortification should be cautious.

    The new findings, appearing in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association, are based on data from 987 adults with a history of precancerous colon polyps. Those who took folic acid developed more growths, or adenomas, several years later than the people who took dummy pills.

    "You really should not take folic acid to prevent colorectal adenomas. It's ineffective for that purpose," said study co-author Bernard Cole of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center.

    Folic acid is an artificial version of folate, a B vitamin found in leafy vegetables, citrus fruit and beans. It prevents birth defects and is needed for the production of red blood cells.

    In the study, participants randomly were assigned to take either folic acid or a dummy pill. Researchers followed them for about six years.

    Participants got screening colonoscopies a few years into the study and 44.1 percent of the folic-acid takers had precancerous polyps. That compared to 42.4 percent of the dummy-pill group.

    The difference was not statistically significant, but the results of a second round of colonoscopies a few years later were more troubling. Among the folic-acid takers, 11.6 percent had advanced adenomas while 6.9 percent of the dummy-pill group did. And folic acid more than doubled the risk of having three or more precancerous polyps.

    For those who got the real vitamin, the daily dose was 1 milligram, more than double the recommended daily allowance for folic acid. All participants consumed even more folic acid than the researchers had in mind because the Food and Drug Administration began requiring enriched grains to be fortified with folic acid in 1998, several years after the study began.

    The FDA adopted the fortification policy to prevent birth defects, and some health advocates want even higher levels of folic acid in foods. But fortification may have unintended effects on people at risk of cancer, said Dr. Joel Mason, an expert on folate and cancer prevention at Tufts University in Boston who was not involved in the new study.

    "Right now it would not be appropriate to blindly go forth and further increase the levels of folic acid without better understanding the potential risks," Mason said. "And whether we continue folic acid fortification should be an open debate over the next few years."

    Mason said he believes folic acid someday may earn a role in cancer prevention, perhaps at smaller doses than given in the study.

    Cancer patients should discuss taking vitamins with their doctors, and anyone over 50 who takes vitamins should have a colorectal screening test, said Cornelia Ulrich of Seattle's Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, who co-wrote an accompanying editorial.

    "Older individuals often have abnormalities in the colon and folic acid may promote their growth," Ulrich said.

    Researchers did not see any real difference in rates of colon cancer, just in the precancerous colon growths.

    Some of the participants also took aspirin as part of the study. The aspirin seemed to protect the colon against the harms of folic acid.

    The study was not designed to look at prostate cancer, but more men who took folic acid developed prostate cancer than did the other men (7.3 percent vs. 2.8 percent).

    Grants from the National Institutes of Health funded the study. Some of the researchers reported financial ties to drug companies, such as consulting work and research support.

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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2007
    Evidence Mounts For Protective Effect Of Vitamin D And Calcium
    Postmenopausal women who take supplements of calcium and vitamin D may have a reduced risk of developing cancer, according to the results of a randomised controlled trial published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

    And in another study:

    "Findings from this study suggest that higher intakes of calcium and vitamin D may be associated with a lower risk of developing premenopausal breast cancer. The likely apparent protection in premenopausal women may be more pronounced for more aggressive breast tumours," write the authors

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78856.php
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited September 2007

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vitamin C can impede the growth of some types of tumors although not in the way some scientists had suspected, researchers reported on Monday.

    The new research, published in the journal Cancer Cell, supported the general notion that vitamin C and other so-called antioxidants can slow tumor growth, but pointed to a mechanism different from the one many experts had suspected.

    The researchers generated encouraging results when giving vitamin C to mice that had been implanted with human cancer cells -- either the blood cancer lymphoma or prostate cancer. Another antioxidant, N-acetylcysteine, also limited tumor growth in the mice, the researchers said.

    Antioxidants are nutrients that prevent some of the damage from unstable molecules known as free radicals, created when the body turns food into energy. Vitamin C, vitamin E and beta-carotene are among well-known antioxidants.

    Previous research had suggested that vitamin C may stifle tumor growth by preventing DNA damage from free radicals.

    But researchers led by Dr. Chi Dang, a professor of medicine and oncology at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, found that antioxidants appear to be working in a different way -- undermining a tumor's ability to grow under certain conditions.

    Figuring out how antioxidants impede tumors should help scientists figure out how they might be harnessed to fight cancer, Dang said. In addition to the cancer types involved in this study, others that might be vulnerable to vitamin C include colon cancer and cervical cancer, he said.

    Dang said more research is needed and cautioned against taking high doses of vitamin C based on these findings.

    "Certainly we would very much discourage people with untreated cancer to go out and take buckets full of vitamin C," Dang said in a telephone interview.

    Linus Pauling argued in the 1970s that vitamin C, also called ascorbic acid, could ward off cancer, but the notion has proved contentious.

    Pauling, who won the Nobel Prize in chemistry as well as the Nobel Peace Prize, died in 1994.

    "Pauling actually had some good evidence that under certain situations vitamin C can prevent tumor formation. It's just the mechanism was really not that clear then," Dang said.

    "Now that, I think, we provide relatively compelling evidence of how this works, maybe Pauling is partly right. We shouldn't dismiss him so quickly." Dang added.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited July 2012

    My husband had stage 4 colon cancer in 2009.  His surgeon at MGH told him to take a baby aspirin daily to prevent further polyps.

    NED so far ...knock on wood of course.

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