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  • MelancholyInNC
    MelancholyInNC Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2016

    Hello Everyone,

    Thanks for all the welcome greetings. I went for my post-op appointment on Wednesday and received my surgical pathology report. My stage changed from clinical 2 to pathology 1. On the mammogram and ultrasound, the tumor was estimated at 2.1cm. On the surgical pathology report it stated that the tumor was multi-focal. This means that there was actually 3 tumors that started from the 1 tumor. In staging, they use the largest tumor size(1.2cm) and not all the sizes combined. Also, the grade of the tumor changed from grade 1 on the biopsy to grade 2 on the surgical pathology. Has anyone else had this same diagnosis of multi-focal or grade changing? I just wonder if the 4 biopsy samples changed the tumor in any way? I don't know. However, the good news is: All 4 surgical margins were clear and the two axillary lymph nodes were clear. This means that as of right now, no more surgeries. I have an appointment in two weeks with my Medical Oncologist. We should have my OncotypeDX score by then to determine if Chemotherapy will benefit me. Then onto 6 weeks of Radiation. I am very thankful that I am receiving favorable results but Cancer still sucks! I am going back to work on Monday. So, I took almost two weeks off after surgery. I'm doing really good physically.


  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited April 2016

    Oh Peggy...what wonderful pics! Goodness...your wedding pic...so young and yes...same smile at 49 years. Glad this is the last "first without him" but know the space your DH left is not to be filled...just a space to live with and can imagine how hard that is and how as time goes by- can be more and more hard to deal with....HUGS!!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Melancholy, YEAH for the clear margins!! I don't know for sure, but I think that biopsies are just tiny snippets and don't necessarily give a complete picture. Your Lx and resulting path report have the bigger picture. Sounds like you have a good team. Fingers crossed for a very low Oncotype score!

    HappyHammer, the void is rather big but seems to mostly healed. Last thing left to do is the Celebration of Life for DH Memorial Day weekend. I'm hoping that there will be much more laughter than tears. Just having both DS and DILs will make it worthwhile - they are never here together. And all of DH's brothers and wives. It will be special.

    Have a great weekend, dear friends!

    HUGS!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Sandy and all my Jewish friends here, my very Catholic cousin posted this on Facebook yesterday and I thought you might get a kick out of it. I love this type of stuff anyway.

    Rube Goldberg Passover

    HUGS!

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited April 2016

    Peggy, you two are adorable! I'm so sorry you lost the love of your life.

  • tbalding
    tbalding Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2016

    Peggy, I'm staying at the Detroit Marriott at the Renaissance Center in Detroit. So not sure how close I am to you? Arriving Monday evening and leaving Wednesday after lunch. I'll be riding with others so I'm limited to the hotel & conference events. My heart goes out to you for this anniversary without your DH.

    Bradford, sorry about positive nodes

    Heathnet, I too went in for lumpectomy for DCIS & pathology also showed another small tumor, 3mm, that is IDC. When bs told me about invasive area, scared the crap out of me, especially because she didn't check sentinel nodes because it was only DCIS. Wasn't prepared for that. Had to pull out tissues before it was over. The IDC area bs got good margins, but DCIS area she didn't. So since she has to go back in for DCIS area, I'm having her check nodes even though IDC area very small, non aggressive, slow growing & chances of spreading are small. I don't want anymore nasty surprises later. I want to know now, then I can figure out how to deal with it. So hang in there, I am. It helps hearing everyone else's experiences. <3

    I'm going back to excercise class today because it will make me feel better & I will get positive energy from my friends in class. Going to wear high impact sports bra & not do any jumping.

    Have a great day! Hugs to all

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    TBalding, Probably won't be able to get together with you - dang. Have a good conference. Very glad you are having nodes checked. It just makes sense!

    HUGS!

  • brithael
    brithael Member Posts: 224
    edited April 2016

    Peggy - I loved the Rube Goldberg! I'm not Jewish, but I know enough about Passover to get the jokes. Very funny!

    Congrats on having an easier time on your anniversary than you might have expected. You were a beautiful bride and deserved all 50 years, sorry it wasn't to be. I, too, married young - 19! Such a baby! However, we'll be celebrating #48 this year.

    Two more rads (boosts) for me and just in time as I am one crispy critter.

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    Under my arm, breast and on my upper chest are the worst areas, but since it's been five days since those guys have been toasted, they should start healing. Looking forward to next week when I'll have five (!!!) whole days of not going to the hospital! I will be having my oncologist meeting on the 2nd to start with hormonal therapy, and another LE therapy appt. later in the week, but not everyday!

    My hair is about 1/4" long average now - so places shorter, some longer. It is like watching grass grow - very slow. Ready to get some stamina back too!

    To all of those just starting this journey - hang in there. You will have ups and downs, but you always have support here, and more than likely, someone will have gone through exactly what you're going through.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Brithael, Thanks for the kind words. It's very hard to get your mind around the fact that you've been married for over 2/3 of your life doesn't it? Like you were single for 5 minutes. I love your KitchenAid rads cartoon. Really great. Sorry you're so toasted. I was lucky, a teeny bit of redness which actually looks like a tan (and I tan easily). No issues at all. Nice that you're getting hair. Hopefully it will start speeding up and resemble how weeds grow rather than grass!

    HUGS!

  • Katzpjays
    Katzpjays Member Posts: 237
    edited April 2016

    What a great job on the enhancement, Peggy. Makes the photo even more precious

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Katzpjays, I'm in awe of #2 son's Photoshop skills. I can open the program. Period. It just defies me. I guess I do not think "graphics" well at all. Thanks!

    HUGS!

  • Kokomo26
    Kokomo26 Member Posts: 64
    edited August 2016

    Hello everyone...just read through 4 pages....so many posts....hard to keep up...

    Sloan, have a fabulous vacation in France!

    Froggie, your good wishes are appreciated. Best of luck with your rads glitch.

    Jill, will you be having rads at North York or Sunnybrook?

    SherylB3733, welcome!

    Grazy, good luck with your rads sim....you will do well.

    Tbalding, wishing your second surgery goes smoothly.

    Peggy, beautiful photos....wonderful memories.

    Brandford, sorry to hear about the positive nodes.

    Heathet, hope you are feeling better today. Sorry to hear about the nodes.

    Brithael, cute rads cartoon!

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited April 2016

    Update on DHs bone scan--it appears that there is no metastasis, as far as I can tell. He just got the results on MyChart, but hasn't talked with the doctor yet. I'm pretty sure the doctor would have called him if it had shown something bad. So, that's one hurdle behind us. I'll be glad when we can meet with the robotics surgeon and RO. I'm trying my best to slog through a book and some research papers about radical prostatectomy vs. radiation & hormone suppression. I won't go into it all here, but it is very confusing and we want to get it right the first time. Prostate cancer appears to be like breast cancer--it's different for every man. Prostate cancer is usually rather slow growing, as compared to breast cancer, but that's small consolation when you know your husband's cancer is a poorly differentiated and highly aggressive one.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Poodles, Good news for a change! About time. I hadn't thought about prostate cancer being as individualized as BC. That makes the decision making very challenging. One thing at a time. Take heart with the good report and breathe for a few minutes. Keep us posted. You both are in my thoughts.

    HUGS!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited April 2016

    Hi Dorothy, rads will be at Sunnybrook...just the thought of driving (I'm in Thornhill) and parking there everyday for 4-5 weeks makes me annoyed!! Are you doing rads yet?? Where??

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited April 2016

    Yay poodles! Love the pictures all. So many posts, enjoy reading them all!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited April 2016

    Poodles, great news. I have seen several research articles on prostrate cancer that seems as confusing as the breast cancer articles.

  • Katzpjays
    Katzpjays Member Posts: 237
    edited April 2016

    Moondust- I will try to make it over to Peggy's side ofthe mountain if the San Joaquin Valley group finds their way to WA!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited April 2016

    Peggy, LOVED that Rube Goldberg Seder! So sorry that your DH isn’t able to celebrate #50 with you--but you can cherish the memories of those 49 you had together. Very few couples get that far. Let the memories conquer the tears. Ironic that you’re leaving Pontiac, as I used to perform there and probably will again. (I’d better book some gigs in Spokane, I guess. My singing partner can’t afford it, but the FAR-West folk conference is in Bellevue this fall and maybe I can fly into or out of Spokane at one end of the trip--Southwest flies there).

    Suzanne, yay on hitting the boosts homestretch. (That KitchenAid is so apropos--although the machine at my center looked more like a Cuisinart or Kenwood mixer). I had never been able to tan--how ironic is it that the only tan I’ve ever gotten is on a little patch of boob, hidden beneath my bra, that only my docs and husband will see??!!

    Poodles, my housekeeper’s husband had the same prostate cancer as yours. He opted for daily radiation and hormone-suppression. It was a rough patch, as he is also a diabetic with heart issues, but he turned the corner last year and is not only NED but has his energy back (and is even second-guessing having retired as a chef). Cancer is a shape-shifter with multiple personality disorder, isn’t it? But “no mets” is a GREAT development. Can still keep the beast contained (or as another BCO sister put it “quash the mutant uprising”).

    Tbalding, saying a little prayer that the second surgery’s the charm and the Oncotype is low!

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited April 2016

    Brand new here.... Decided on lumpectomy/radiation/Tamoxifin for my DCIS with my surgeon just yesterday. It's the multi focal, cribiform with necrosis, DCIS. Does the lumpectomy vs. Mastectomy sound like we're on the right path?

    From what I am reading here the surgeon won't really know what we are dealing with until after the post lumpectomy pathology? Am I understanding correctly? So if something else is found we just tackle it one step at a time?

    I'm 52... Healthy but overweight. Hoping to take a road trip 8 days after surgery... Am I being overly optimistic?

    I sure appreciate reading your posts! Thank you for keeping me sane tonight!!



  • chipsy83
    chipsy83 Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2016

    Thanks everyone for the congrats on not smoking. It was hard but when my surgeon told me I might have cancer i walked out of her office with a prescription for Chantix. It took me a little bit. But I told her I would quit before my lumpectomy. I quit on Wednesday and on the following Monday had surgery. It has been an amazing experience. For us to do that together but alone was a bonding experience I had never imagined having. We held each other tp a higher standard each day and aimed to please each other and ourselves. #winning

    Sloan, France. Thats amazing. Safe travels ad enjoy your time.

    Peggy - i am not electronic friendly. I tried to go update that information for you guys but they dont have my diagnosis on there. And since my tumor was the benign phyllodes, thats not a choice either. My surgeon said that because she took so much tissue out I might always have the pain sensations. Ike I can physically touch my nipple and its numb. But anytime an article of clothing brushes it or my arm i get sharp pains. Like i said very weird feeling.

    614- you are amazing at getting back to everyone. I am going to have to write everything down to stay in the loop. Lol

    However, my insurance came back and approved my bilateral mastectomy to prevent any recurrence or any other breast cancer. My drs apt is May 3rd.

    Has anyone done the breast reconstruction using tummy fat in here? That interests me.

    I have had a bunch of stress these past couple months. But this morning I went to a Sat morning meeting for work. (I work for walmart home office) my 5yr old came with me and at 930am we got to see Florida Georgia Line perform. My 5yr olds favorite band. It was the greatest joy to see his face light up!

    Hope everyone has a good weekend and the positive thoughts stay with everyone.

  • chipsy83
    chipsy83 Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2016

    tsoebbin- You found a great page to get info. Welcome. Sorry you had to. But, these ladies are warm and inviting. My only advice for the lumpectomy is to make sure you have a sports bra with you for your trip. Mine has been sore in certain areas for a few weeks but I had 11cm of tissue removed. And i was back to work in 4 days. Check back often they post quickly in here! :) Good Luck!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited April 2016

    tsoebbin, only you know what you are capable of 8 days after surgery. As long as you’re not doing the driving and have a proper cushion between your arm & armpit, and between the shoulder belt & your chest, you should be OK. Make sure someone else carries your bags. I didn’t take a road trip (driving only 90 mi. each way to & from Rockford) until 2 weeks post-op; the first truly long (4 hrs each way) road trip I took to & from Iowa City was a month post-op.

    As to lumpectomy vs. mastectomy for DCIS, that would depend on the size and location of the tumors (especially tumor size relative to breast size). You are correct in assuming that you won’t have the full pathological picture until after surgery: final tumor size, grade, node and margin status. You say you’re ER+. What about PR? (HER2 isn’t usually tested in pure DCIS). It would also depend on how comfortable you are with irrevocably losing a breast, vs. how much you’d worry about recurrence and revisit your original diagnosis trauma with every followup mammo. Mastectomy lessens but doesn’t eliminate the chance of recurrence, but overall survival rates (how long one lives, regardless of eventual cause of death) are exactly the same.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Katspjays, I had better start researching a venue for our get together. I'm thinking a winery but I'm clueless as to what's available where in Spokane. Wineries seem to be perfect for BCO'ers. Possibly at my house? I don't know. But I can't wait!!!

    Sandy, Glad you liked the Rube Goldberg. I thought it fit well with your abridged Seder :) Southwest certainly does fly out of Spokane - thank heavens. It's a nice small friendly airport. I'd love to have you stop by. Lordy, will I EVER get moved? Less than 2 months.

    HUGS!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Chipsy, true that not every Dx is listed. You can list surgery, date, size, and path report info if you like. Keep up the good work on not smoking. This group is so supportive it is hard to imagine not having it. Certainly kept me sane during some very rough spots with DH especially. When do you anticipate your BMx?

    HUGS!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Tsoebbin, Welcome! We're so glad you found us. By now you know we are welcoming, supportive, comforting, informative and a bit zany. It's hard to tell you if your road trip is going to be comfortable for you. As with anything to do with BC, it's an individual experience. Some of us were good to go the next day (or felt like it), others did better after a couple weeks' healing. A lumpectomy is an excellent choice. I assume that's what your surgeon recommended and they know best. Also, it is called "breast-conserving" surgery because you do get to keep your breast. That is preferable. Even though of us who first had a lumpectomy and then had to go on to get a mastectomy (because of the BC or genetics), don't regret having gone conservative. The outcomes are the same. Recovery from an Lx is much faster than from a Mx.

    Please help us help you by filling out your profile with your definite treatments (surgery, e.g.) and probably ones and make it PUBLIC. As you probably can tell by now, this lounge moves fast and we don't remember each person's particulars. Having it at the bottom of each post reminds us and helps gals with similar situations to answer your questions. We also would love to know where you are - we are everywhere, probably even near you!

    HUGS!

  • tbalding
    tbalding Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2016

    Hi tsoebbin, I chose lumpectomy + radiation over mastectomy because mx was more invasive & longer recovery time & that chance for reoccurrence is same either way. I had 2.4cm removed, my incision was about 1-1/2". No pain only sore 8 days after surgery. I'm on small side, B cup, so with sports bra, I don't notice it much unless I bump it. I went back to work 5 days after surgery. If you're having lx, then I would plan for the trip (with conditions Sandy mentioned) and see how you feel after surgery whether you up to it. Everyone is different. It is true that you don't know exactly what you are facing until pathology, but you just have to take it a step at a time. You've come to the right place, I have learned a lot (& still learning) from everyone here. Hope this helps

  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited April 2016

    Hi all! Happy Passover to those that celebrate. 101 things to do with matzo.

    I cried when I first found out I had positive nodes. Then I decided to attack my cancer with all that I could. It made me fight harder and enjoy life more. None of us have any guarantees how long we'll live but I won't be wasting any more days. And neither should you.

    I got married at 20 too. That marriage only lasted 5.5 years. My second one lasted 20 years. I miss having someone to share life with and try new restaurants or go on vacation with. Now I have to share a bottle of wine with myself lol.

    We are starting The Derby Festival here. It's a two week celebration for the fastest two minutes in sports. A very big deal here.

    I once got my mother a plate that said " Wishing you good health, wealth and the time to enjoy them." I wish you all the same.



  • Katzpjays
    Katzpjays Member Posts: 237
    edited April 2016

    Peggy-I can research some places for us. I have a former employee who spends lots of time there. He's a big wine lover too. I'm sure he can recommend a few places

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited April 2016

    Jan, I can imagine how crazy it is before the Derby! Like you, I find the hardest things are not having DH to share the little things with (the big ones are easier to manage for me), no one to travel with or the restaurants. But we learn to cope, don't we?

    Katzpjays, Thanks! I would think my son might have an idea or two (or not since he's not a wine drinker). Have your friend recommend places. Where we go here in Michigan is the most relaxing place EVER! Very serene. Sand Hill Crane Winery I think of it as small but I don't know since I've not gone to any other winery. At any rate, I'll have fun checking them out! I love love love how BCO provides a spider web of connections everywhere. Awesome!

    HUGS!

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