First gear: (gentle) exercise during or after treatment

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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited January 2016

    I use a theraband to help address rotator cuff impingement caused by surgery and radiation. It's very helpful, and after using it for awhile I have enough pectoral strength (and confidence) to open medium-tight jar lids again.

  • Hazel_Nut
    Hazel_Nut Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2016

    Hi MsBrompton, about the therabands...yes, I was given one during a group PT. It's good. I used it for a little bit and still do for warming up. I got the yellow one...which I think is the least amount of resistance.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2016

    I joined the local Y's Turning Point program today and, while it's much different from the heavy weightlifting I was doing before my first surgery, it's GREAT. Twice a week fitness classes, once weekly yoga (bringing my total to 5+ days a week of yoga), and--more importantly--connecting with other local warriors! I met three women today, all of whom have been cancer-free for over five years.

    It was totally refreshing.

    If I wear my hot-pink shirt (which they gave me), I'm apparently allowed to use the whole gym whenever I want, too.

    Komen gets on my nerves in a lot of ways, but a grant from Komen makes this possible for 170 women in my area, so maybe they're not all bad. . . .

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited February 2016

    I am doing the Cupid's Undie Run in a bit over 2 weeks. Nothing (much) to do with running as just one mile. Hoping for a balmy day. Will let all of you know how it goes. But an important statement about being confident about one's body (post breast cancer, over 60). I intend to party as well. The right ratio of exercise to party, 1:10.

    Congrats to everyone regaining their strength and, by extension, Mojo. - Claire

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2016

    Claire, "The right ratio of exercise to party, 1:10."

    Hell yes.

  • MsBrompton
    MsBrompton Member Posts: 357
    edited February 2016

    Turning Point sounds GREAT! Only in USA?

  • DeeRatz
    DeeRatz Member Posts: 350
    edited February 2016

    I'm still plugging away at the gym. Getting a bit stronger. I can't believe how slow progress is though. I feel like I am getting nowhere. Haven't lost the weight I gained during chemo. I have been exercising and eating well. I don't know if it is due to the Tamoxifen or what. I am having my exchange surgery next week so my exercising will have to be put on hold for a bit.

    I did receive a nice compliment from a guy at the gym yesterday. He told me how good I was looking, and looking at me he would never have known what I have gone thru in the last 7 months. That I looked healthy and he could tell I was getting stronger. That was such a huge compliment, especially when I have been struggling. Soon this will all be behind me

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2016

    MsBrompton, I think it's a US thing. It's perhaps a small consolation for our health care costs! :P

    Dee, that's great! I'm still doing mostly yoga and walking. More power to you if you're lifting already. I lost at least 15-20 lbs of muscle mass during chemo.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited February 2016

    In case this is motivating, here are studies showing that Zumba is pretty effective. These are easily searchable online and return abstracts or full-text articles:


    Aerobic exercise plus mindfulness/meditation

    • MAP training: combining meditation and aerobic exercise reduces depression and rumination while enhancing synchronized brain activity


    Effects of Zumba

    • An 8-week exercise intervention based on Zumba® improves aerobic fitness and psychological well-being in healthy women
    • The effects of Zumba training on cardiovascular and neuromuscular function in female college students
    • Benefits of Zumba Fitness® among sedentary adults with components of the metabolic syndrome: a pilot study


    Non-US Zumba studies

    • Cardiovascular effects, body composition, quality of life and pain after a Zumba® fitness program in Italian overweight women
    • The effectiveness of an 8-week Zumba programme for weight reduction in a group of Maltese overweight and obese women


    Zumba compared to other forms of exercise

    • Salsa dance and Zumba fitness: Acute responses during community-based classes
    • Do soccer and Zumba exercise improve fitness and indicators of health among female hospital employees? A 12-week RCT
    • Exercise intensity during Zumba fitness and Tae-bo aerobics
    • Heart rate, accelerometer measurements, experience and rating of perceived exertion in Zumba, interval running, spinning, and pyramid running
    • Zumba Fitness workouts: are they an appropriate alternative to running or cycling?


    Zumba delivery systems compared

    • Energy expenditure and physiological responses to 60 minute Zumba aerobic sessions (group class versus home) in healthy adult females
    • Physiological load associated with a Zumba® fitness workout: a comparison pilot study between classes and a DVD
  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited March 2016

    OK, athletic women, good job getting motivated and starting this thread!

    It's almost kitesurfing season and I desperately want to kite this year (missed last year completely). So I'm finally feeling ready to go baby jumping back into exercise (more than just shuffling around the block). Starting slow Yoga at the Y on Monday. Surgeon says two more weeks before I can start swimming again.

    Of course, I somehow managed to get tendinitis in my left wrist this week by doing...nothing? Thinking this whole getting back in shape might be a slow process.

    : )



  • MsBrompton
    MsBrompton Member Posts: 357
    edited March 2016

    Hi Peabrain. Agree, it's a slow process and you need to throw away any previous benchmarks. But soooo important for the soul to set achievable goals and go for them. I had a major setback last week with an episode of sepsis, but today walked 5 miles (in 2 hours!) with husband who is just glad I'm not horizontal in hospital!!

  • superius
    superius Member Posts: 340
    edited March 2016

    I finally found a new route for walking near our new office -- there's an enclosed community (like with streets that go like a circle). So I just park my car at work, the round trip is exactly 2 miles. So I can just do that before I heading into the office. Not too bad, 40 minutes.

  • DeeRatz
    DeeRatz Member Posts: 350
    edited March 2016

    Today is the day! I had my first workout at the gym post exchange surgery. I have been doing cardio but haven't lifted any weights. First back and bicep workout is done. It is such a nice feeling to know that I will NOT have any more setbacks. No more surgeries or treatments. I can commit to the healthy lifestyle I was living pre cancer. There is nothing holding me back. FxxK you cancer. Take that!

    It is an amazing feeling. I feel like I just got let out of jail.

  • MsBrompton
    MsBrompton Member Posts: 357
    edited March 2016

    Yeay, DeeRatz! I can't wait to be off Herceptin and able to gym as much as I like.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    MsBrompton, me too.

    I'm going three times a week to some sort of exercise class, though. I'll say this: on days I exercise, my worldview is about 90% better than on days I don't.

    Yay, DeeRatz! Keep us posted!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    I LIFTED TODAY.

    Nothing major. And it wasn't true lifting, because it was with machines, but I made my muscles pull and push things. I probably won't be able to move tomorrow (lol), but it's worth it.

    I will be strong again, dammit!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016
  • MsBrompton
    MsBrompton Member Posts: 357
    edited March 2016

    Tis true, on the days I exercise the world seems brighter, less oppressive.

    Today I JOGGED. Not far, not fast, and I stopped at the supermarket and walked back with a loaf of bread.

    Ha! My first proper exercise since septicaemia.

  • DeeRatz
    DeeRatz Member Posts: 350
    edited March 2016

    Kate-Yay!!! It feels so good to feel the muscles do some work. Don't care if it was machines. Good for you!

    MsBrompton-happy for you. You got out there and moved. I know it's not as easy as it sounds.

    I did a leg workout today. Not anywhere near the weights that I used to use or as long of a workout as I used to do. But I did it! Baby steps with baby weights.

    I agree, exercise is the thing that keeps me sane. My stress reliever and helps me clear my head. I think that was one of the hardest things for me during and post treatment that made me sad. I wasn't able to do the thing that made me feel good.

  • superius
    superius Member Posts: 340
    edited March 2016

    just finished 2 miles walk & kinda surprised i wasn't coughing my head off along the way. But of course now I'm situated at my desk, I started coughing!

  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited March 2016

    Hey, Kate. Can you move today?

    I am not doing anything impressive enough to announce but am happy to be confidently walking around again. This weekend we go to the Grand Canyon and I'm looking forward to the bunny hikes

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    Walking is great!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016
  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited April 2016

    I used to like walking and did it twice daily but now find that my arm pits get to feeling so terrible that I need to raise my arms and that is no fun.

    Anyone else have similar experience with underarm feeling of being swollen (I do not have lymphedema) and just generally uncomfortable when walking any distance? I had I lymph node r arm and 2 lymph nodes L arm removed, plus surgeon cut a major nerve in L chest leaving much semi numb including armpit.

  • superius
    superius Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2016

    I still have a weird feeling on my non-BC side under my arm sometimes (I had a PICC for ~6 weeks) now at 6months post chemo. & yes. sometimes that strange swollen feeling but I don't feel it)

  • MsBrompton
    MsBrompton Member Posts: 357
    edited April 2016

    No nothing swells up under my armpits but I do have to take off my wedding ring when walking as my fingers swell. Never had to do that before BC.


  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited April 2016

    I am finally able to hike again! Four miles today on the moderate trail in Sedona. I'm whupped but feeling pretty proud of myself.

    And I could not get my ring off afterwards. Weird

  • superius
    superius Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2016

    I need to find way to take my walk when it's raining. we southern Californians are not good at that... it rained today & going to be rain tomorrow & thru the weekend... Maybe I will bring an umbrella!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited April 2016

    Superius, I live in the great, gray midwest, and I'm not good at walking in the rain, either. I blame the fact that I wear glasses, and I honestly think that's my problem: the raindrops hit my glasses and annoy me. But I like this idea of doing it anyway: it's supposed to snow here tonight (!), but I'm committing to walking this weekend!

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited April 2016

    I am popping back in to cheer everyone on!  I will admit that I could use some super-serious rain gear as opposed to just getting wet. My internist and I agree that we don't like SKIING in the rain. I did one monumentally miserable cycling event about six weeks ago. No harm done, and I am claiming the boast.

    What I wanted to mention is that you can get stronger and be as strong as before diagnosis. I am feeling quite accomplished to report that I chugged up a hill that I had previously walked last weekend. Wasn't even winded at the top. I hadn't done this hill in a while, and felt quite pleased with myself. So didn't have to walk any hills in the Emerald City Bicycle Ride and got to ride the new Route 520 floating bridge.

    Cycling gives me clear thinking (which I need for the work I do, much of it data analysis). I can also say that it's important for my mood too. Even the end of day walks I do during weekdays do this. I can walk out the door in a major funk in the rain, and 5 minutes into the walk, all is well with the world.

    One tip I have is that the best high-performance fabric for staying warm when chilly and damp is CASHMERE. Get mine on eBay, and use as a layer on top. It passed the Chilly Hilly rainy, windy, and generally miserable cycling event test. Because if my core is warm and dry, I'm fine.

    Happy Friday! It's warm and sunny here in Seattle, so a ride later. Plus a ride in the tulips tomorrow with a friend. This is my idea of paradise, as long as we get there prior to the invasion of tour buses. I know most of the route as have cycled it many times before.

    So happy weekend! Use those legs to see something special and you won't even notice that you walked miles. Plus had an adventure.

    That's what I call "living". - Claire

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