Physical Therapy after BMX

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Physical Therapy after BMX

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  • Mckaylaleigh
    Mckaylaleigh Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2016

    How many of you had PT after? I asked my surgeon about it because it seemed a lot of women here do and she looked at me like I was crazy. She said she never refers anyone to PT after BMX. Thoughts?

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited March 2016

    I was referred. I think it's pretty pointless for me. Taking care of my 3-year-old is better therapy than the exercises and strengthening they have assigned me. Really only the stretches are the only thing I have found slightly helpful. Plus the recommendation to use vitamin e oil and massage my incisions. I have another PT appointment on Monday, but I don't think I am going to schedule additional ones.

  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited March 2016

    Yes, referred to a LANA-certified PT before and after BMX. I'm in very good shape but it was great having PT. She gave me specific exercises to do, safety tips for exercising after surgery, and massage when I was recovering and getting expander fills (which really helped with the pain associated with the expander fills). She was fantastic.

    Also, my surgeon was a fantastic, very experienced breast surgeon but I would not want her to be telling me how to exercise post-BMX. One week after my surgery she asked me to raise my arms as high as I could, which was exactly what my PT told me NOT to do for 10-14 days after surgery. I told her I was not supposed to do that yet in order to reduce my risk of Lymphedema and she said, "Only fat people get Lymphedema."

  • muska
    muska Member Posts: 1,195
    edited March 2016

    Well, maybe your surgeon provides the instructions and exercise list herself? Did she or her nurse talk to you about the exercises you will have to do to restore your range of motion, how soon after mastectomy you can start doing them, etc.?

    I found two or three sessions I had with an experienced PT the most useful thing in the entire post-surgery process. The first session was to assess my status and show the exercises I should be doing (I received printouts with notes just for me), the second one a month later - to evaluate my progress and recommend more 'advanced' exercises, and the third and final one 'graduated' me to the real world, i.e. gym.

    Before rads I was warned by my surgeon I would need to work with PT on my range of motion again. I took preemptive action and continued doing all the same exercises on my own through rads, there was no need to do anything after rads.

    Editing to add that this may be age dependent. I was 54 when I had surgery, someone in her 30s may need less guidance and help.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    My surgeon didn't, though he wasn't opposed. My MO gave me the preliminary stretching instructions. Between chemo and radiation I requested a PT referral and started doing preventive work as well as ROM. Radiation caused rotator cuff impingement, so PT has been really important. My PT specializes in cancer and has been helpful about lymphedema prevention and detection as well.

  • Mckaylaleigh
    Mckaylaleigh Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2016

    Thanks ladies. I guess I would rather have an appointment or two for some guidance, especially on what I should or shouldn't be doing. So far I haven't had anything other than my surgical consult with my surgeon (no other appointments AT ALL) so if I didn't learn all I know from here, I would be going into this pretty blind.

    Kelly


  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited March 2016

    i had PT bc the ALND impacted my ability to raise my arm. A few sessions later and i was good to go. My PT also included myofascial release, it hurt so bad but when i would hear a pop i could raise my arm further.

  • BlueHeron
    BlueHeron Member Posts: 154
    edited March 2016

    I'm seeing a therapist who specializes in breast cancer patients and lymphedema. She has been HUGELY helpful. I started 4 weeks post-op, was still having lots of discomfort and pulling especially from the drain site, as well as swelling under the armpit. She has done all sorts of scar massage and release, making my rib cage mobility WAY better and less painful. My arm range of motion is almost full. And she has showed me manual lymph drainage to clear the swelling, and other things to prevent lymphedema. I am enormously grateful for her.

  • okbecca
    okbecca Member Posts: 106
    edited March 2016

    My surgeon is referring me for PT after my mastectomy next week. I also have talked to the people at a local women's gym. They said they've done this for a lot of people.

  • Asante314
    Asante314 Member Posts: 54
    edited March 2016

    At my initial visits with both the PS and BS they both said, "oh and we have physical therapists here." Not sure if this ws suppossed to be a selling point, as I went to each of them for a second opinion for my BMX.

    At that time I didn't even understand why. I asked my BS at my pre-op about PT, and she said I wold start after the drains were out. However my BS and PS are from different hospitals, (but PS visits BS facility once monthly so they can work together, old training buddies). BS is closer, but not sure which makes more sense, as I would be going to PS for fills at some point. And still not sure if it is something they mention, or something I definitely need to follow through. Guess I will put it on my list of questions when I am in the hospital. My surgery is 3-14, but my first appt w BS is 4-5. PS deals with everything except the pathology was the explanation.

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited March 2016

    Mckayla....Actually I asked the same question I had a Occupational Therapist (OT) who came to the house to show me some exercises...

    Good Luck

    Sheila

  • JCS28
    JCS28 Member Posts: 153
    edited March 2016

    My surgeon sent me for up to 6 sessions of PT. I only needed 3 but can have more later if I need them. I'm in pretty good shape and am naturally very flexible, so my range of motion came back easily. But my surgeon is VERY conservative, so he didn't want me lifting more than 5 pounds for nearly 2 months. And he was very strict about which stretches I could do. The PT was great in helping me learn other things I could do and how to do them safely. Also, the PT was helpful in understanding lymphedema and she will be my contact if I ever think I have it. I'm very glad I went.

  • RX34
    RX34 Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2016

    I got the same reaction from my surgeon. I got the exercise handout when I was discharged and that was it. I started them a couple days post surgery and kept at them for four weeks or so and was able to regain my full range of motion

  • Almosthere
    Almosthere Member Posts: 197
    edited March 2016

    The general consensus is to not lift your arms above you shoulder until your drains are out, then start your exercises 4 times a day. If you do not have full ROM by close to 5-6 week post op you need physio. If you get cording you will need physio. I developed cording and started physio once my drains were out. I am covered for one assessment and 6 treatments post surgery, meaning it is direct billed to Alberta Health Care and I pay nothing. I thought why not goand get help?

  • LisaAlissa
    LisaAlissa Member Posts: 1,092
    edited March 2016

    Lymph channels only have the first couple of weeks post surgery to heal back together where cut. So you don't want a lot of movement (arms over shoulder height, etc.) until after that time. As bstein points out, that's often the time period while you still have drains.

    You can read more about post-surgery exercise limitations to avoid/reduce your chances oh Lymphedema on the Lymphedema board.

    HTH,

    LisaAlissa

  • katykids
    katykids Member Posts: 132
    edited March 2016

    Mine did not refer me for PT despite numerous complaints that I was not regaining my ROM with the exercises she gave me post surgery. Although, she told me to wait 6 weeks before starting them. My internist finally gave me a script and after the exchange I was eventually diagnosed with two frozen shoulders, a rotator cuff tear, and a bunch of other weird things. In a couple of weeks, I will be getting shots in my shoulders to break up the scar tissue, I hope. And continue with PT, now out of pocket because I have hit my max. with insurance. About 4 months of PT.

    I think it's better to be cautious. This was result I never expected as I was very active before all of this.

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