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  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    Back again and should available off and on the rest of the day. Sorry for the delays in answering.

    5. No, the event itself was not celebratory.

    6. No, not about one person.

    7. Yes, 19th century event.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Hmmmm. Trying to think of "narrowing-down" questions....

    8. First or second half of the century?

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    8. First half of 19th century.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Sorry, got distracted by early nineteenth-century American history. And stalling a bit in the hopes that someone else will get a chance to figure this out, 'cause you (plural) really don't want to know what I've got up my sleeve next.

    I may come back for elaboration on your answer "the event itself was not celebratory".

    9. Did it involve a significant shift in the population of the United States? (either through literal geographic relocation or through expansion of U.Sl jurisdiction)


  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    9. The event itself did not involve a major shift in population or jurisdiction.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited February 2016

    10. Did this event take place in one of the pacific time zone states?

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Oh, phew. I'm not the only one.

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    10. Partially in Pacific time zone states.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited February 2016

    11..Pearl Harbor.....

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    Hi ducky!!


    11 No, not Pearl Harbor

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Thinking very hard here. Also enjoying this a great deal. What can I say, some of us are funny this way.

    My understanding of the answers to the questions so far is

    ....a man-made event (interpreted loosely) so it's not something like Krakatoa or the San Francisco earthquake/fire.

    Took place in the first half of the nineteenth century, so not, say, Lee's surrender at Appomattox. (Also not a conflict between two groups.)

    Does not involve a change in jurisdiction, so not the Louisiana Purchase, or any territory becoming a state in what was then the United States.

    Did not involve the movement of a large number of people, so not the Gold Rush or the Trail of Tears or the Underground Railroad.

    (shyly) Did I get that right?

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Oh, and hi, ducky!

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    queenmom, thanks for the great summary. Sorry for not responding right away--now it's my turn that my updates where not appearing!!

    Yup! That's a good overview of what the "event" is not. HINT: That is not to say that the actual event did not indirectly lead to an item or two from your list following this event.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited February 2016

    12. Did this event involve the mining of natural resources??

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    (snorts of laughter) For background's sake: I grew up in San Francisco.

    12b. More specifically, did the event take place at some random dude's sawmill in Nowheresville,Alta California Province, Mexico?

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    12 and 12b!! LOL. No, not the gold rush or any mining!!!

    Heading to bed now, but will be back Sunday afternoon.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited February 2016

    Hahaha. Was not thinking of gold rush.

    13. Did it involve Mexico? Good night.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited February 2016

    Request for clarification, if you're feeling generous: Coming back to the first question/answer: this event took place partially in the United States. Did you mean that in its post-1960 sense or were you referring to the political entity extant at the time the event took place?

    The official question:

    14. Did it involve non-oceanic water travel by a discrete group of people?

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    Happy Valentine's Day!!! Hope it is a good day for everyone!!!

    13. Did not involve Mexico.

    Queenmom, you are asking a very important question and one that I initially had to think about before answering because it is so much a part of the "event." I was answering the first question based on the date of the event not post 1960s United States!!! You've been putting a lot of thought into this, I can see. Which brings us to the answer for your question.

    14. Yes, it involved non-oceanic water travel by a discrete group of people.!! I think you know the answer!!

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited February 2016

    15. Lewis and Clark's Expedition

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited February 2016

    Wow! ML you are amazing.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited February 2016

    If I am correct, I feel like that be-otch girl that comes in at the last minute and steals someone else's hard work....if I'm correct, it's Queen's win.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited February 2016

    FF, You think that I'm correct I guess but if that is the case it was all of Queen's hard work that got me there. She is the amazing one!!!

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    Yes, ML the Lewis and Clark Expedition. There's a decent summary of the expedition in Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_and_Clark_Expedition

    I have read numerous books about Lewis and Clark, from Stephen Ambrose's "Undaunted Courage" to a fictionalized but favorite book by James Alexander Thom "From Sea to Shining Sea" and "Sign-Talker" also by Thom but from the point of view of one of the native Americans who was on the journey.

    I am fascinated by the fortitude, courage, and the mind blowing thought of traveling over mountain ranges before there were maps. I personally spent three weeks, by car, and started out in Illinois, the scene of the original encampment before the journey, through St. Louis and along the Missouri River through Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, South and North Dakotas, Montana, then over the mountains in Idaho, into Oregon and then traveled along the Colombia River to Fort Clatsop near Astoria Oregon then back along the Yellowstone River. Very memorable trip and I had the luxury of car travel and wasn't towing boats up rivers, and climbing over mountains!!! An amazing group of men and women!!!

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    Silly, the last post would not save the full address for the Wikipedia article and then the link did not work. I think I have it fixed now.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited February 2016

    "Did it involve non-oceanic water travel by a discrete group of people?", Ceanna you were correct Queen knew the answer, what else could it be?

    QUEEN you won it! You are a smarty!!

    Ceanna, That sounds like an awesome trip!

    I do have a simple tricky one for everyone - it's a THING.

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited February 2016

    ML, and Queenmom, I'll let you work it out who 'wins.' I must admit to having a terrible time asking your questions. Every question had a qualified answer because at the time of the Expedition, Lewis started out in the US in Washington DC, but the actual first encampment was in the Indiana Territory (which actually is now in Illinois), the moved through the Louisiana Territory just as it was being bought from France (yet being disputed by Spain) by the US, then into unclaimed land and ended up in an area along the Pacific coast claimed partially by the British who had by 1805 travelled up the Columbia River. The Expedition itself did not involve mass movement of people, only a couple of dozen, but certainly led to territory becoming states, mass influx of people, etc. I also could not call it a conflict, but there was an encounter which led to the deaths of two native Americans on the return trip. The intent of the journey was to explore, and greet the native tribes.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited February 2016

    I don't think that she will mind that I run one but she honestly did have that win.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited February 2016

    Yup, she is the Queen. I can see her working as a lawyer the way she "corners" people with her questions

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited February 2016

    Good job, ML. Lewis and Clark Expedition was not even on my list.

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