Stage 4 Fitness 2016

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nancyh
nancyh Member Posts: 2,644

Starting a new thread for 2016 where we can share progress and encourage each other to be healthy and active in spite of dealing with the ups and downs of having metastatic breast cancer.

Best wishes to everyone for a healthy and happy year!

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2016

    We can't wait to see the inspiration here -- thanks Nancyh for starting this thread!

    Happy and healthy 2016 to all!

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2016

    Great idea Nancy

    Been struggling with low reds from weekly gemzar. Still out walking but too weak for road bike.

    Decided " can't wait" on the reds (they may just stay low since on weekly chemo) so ordered indoor trainer for my roadbike. Can spin inside and not worry about crash or cars. Add to the walking. Onc started me on iron supplement as iron was low. Maybe that will help.

    Toasting to another year of mets. Sounds crazy but I'm glad to be alive. Exercise is one key to help us manage SE I think. Stay strong people. 👊🏻👊🏻

    Best to all.

    Diana.

  • Teakie88
    Teakie88 Member Posts: 226
    edited January 2016

    Hi everyone! I have read through these posts on occasion but don't believe i have ever posted here. I have been doing exercising since before my original diagnosis, which included nine miles/day clear across town and back. Now my exercise regimen has toned down a little to six miles a day (2 miles in morning, noon, and evening). It does a great job of keeping my weight where I need it to be and lets me "sort through" anything that is on my mind at the time. I personally think exercise plays a bigger factor in managing this disease than anyone really knows so here's to a healthy and happy 2016 to all! Ann

  • nancyh
    nancyh Member Posts: 2,644
    edited January 2016

    Diana - good idea for the indoor trainer for your bike. I'll bet that will work great.

    Teakie/Ann - wow, you are quite a walker! That's awesome. I totally agree with you that exercise is one of the best things we can do for ourselves.

    Exercise has been nearly impossible for me lately and I really miss not being able to get out. The few times I have gone for a walk in the past few weeks, I end up feeling worse for several days. I need to find something gentle that will still get the blood pumping a bit.

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2016

    Nancy

    What about those small cycle gadgets where you can sit down and just spin your legs a little. I thought about something like that. I know how frustrating it is to not be able to "go" when you want. Or give yourself permission to rest. And bring time down. On a really bad day I don't go, on a kinda bad day I might only do 10-15 minutes. Pace yourself. I've been doing that and take pressure off me and only do what I can do. It's hard. Remember your body is not only dealing with cancer but SE of Tx over a very long time of Tx Nancy. Even just stretching counts.

    Ann. Wow. That's a lot of walking. Good for you. 👍


  • steelrose
    steelrose Member Posts: 3,798
    edited January 2016

    Nice to see the 2016 thread up and running:) Thank you, Nancy! I'm plugging along with my walking and exercise dvd's. I truly admire those of you currently on chemo who are pushing through and exercising. I slowed down quite a bit on chemo, but I'm now on Ibrance/Aromasin so no excuses.

    Keep moving everyone! It helps our minds as much as our bodies.

  • BionicBunny
    BionicBunny Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2016

    Nancyh-yes, thank you for updating this thread. It's one of my favorites. I hope you will soon feel stronger so you can get out and walk without any nasty aftereffects.

    My New Year's resolution is to work on my walking (boy, am I impressed with your walking efforts, Ann. That's great!) I decided I need to set goals month by month, and keep reassessing how I'm doing. January's goal is to do 30 minutes of intentional walking every day. Today it was walking around our driveway. Some days I'm with you SteelRose, walking with a video.

    Most days I've been going to the gym to walk and ride the spin bikes. My insurance company is offering a substantial reimbursement on the gym membership fees if I use the gym often enough (I think it's about 3 times a week.). It's good motivation for me to visit the gym.

    Diana-hope you're soon on your road bike on the trainer. I've been riding the park trails on my mountain bike but hope to get the road bike on the trainer before long too.

    Yep, what SteelRose says, Keep moving. It's good for us.

  • Kjones13
    Kjones13 Member Posts: 1,520
    edited January 2016

    thanks nancyh for starting a new thread! I'm excited and apprehensive at the same time. Like you, Nancyh, I would try to exercise but instead of giving me more energy it sucked it out of me. Took several days to recover. I finally gave up and said it's not worth it. I need to preserve my energy for family. But you all have stuck to it. You gave me the motivation to start asking for Ritalin. And after 6 months or more of going round and round with drs...I finally let them have it! I took my first dose this morning!!!!! And I worked all day like a mad woman cleaning (the inside of the dishwasher? Who knew?)! It was great! I did have to take several little breaks. And I guess time will tell if this drug is going to help or will I still need several days to recover. I hope you all continue to do well and keep kicking ass

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2016

    My fitness goal this year is to complete a marathon open water swim and screw anyone who says it will be unsafe with brain mets. Hopefully I won't have brain mets by then and I'll especially request a support person who has medical training. I did a smaller swim in October, and I'm sure the mets were present then...

  • jcfree
    jcfree Member Posts: 105
    edited January 2016

    I have been using an XL glider daily over the past year for exercise plus stretching exercises. I got an exercycle for Christmas and have been using it daily since I got it, I love it! I am on it from 40 minutes to an hour depending on my fatigue level. What I want to start is using dumbbells for my arms and doing some other exercises at home as well. Exercising at home works out best for me, I can do it when I want and not worry about the weather especially since living in NE Ohio, the winters here are usually bad.

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2016

    Bump. Here is 2016. ⛸🚴🏻🏊💃⛷⛹🏻

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited January 2016

    Great idea to start a 2016 thread! I love reading about what people are doing.

    The latest with me is that I have worked my way up to running 14 miles a week. I run three days a week (4 miles, 4 miles and 6 miles). I had planned to do a race in the fall but realized that it is quite a logistical challenge with a baby - waking him up super early, his feeding time would be during the race, running with him, etc. If I can figure out a way to do a race and leave him at home, maybe I will do one. Otherwise, I am okay just running on my own for now. What a difference a year makes. My bone mets were very advanced when I was diagnosed a year ago - they have been healing steadily since then but are still kicking around everywhere. I appreciate being able to run right now. It really helps manage my stress levels, not to mention my bone pain and stiffness. I have missed some runs the last few weeks due to work and child care issues. I notice an increase in my bone pain and stiffness when I miss more than one run.

    I read that exercise - for those who can safely engage in it - actually helps arrest the cancer's process in the bones. Good to know!

  • artistatheart
    artistatheart Member Posts: 2,176
    edited January 2016

    I work in any movement I can. Walking around the mall when it is too cold or snowy here. Walking up stairs, parking further from the store. I just bought some snow shoes which may be pretty challenging at first as my legs are sorely out of shape. But plan to go out the first sunny day off that I have. Haven't rode my bike in 6 months.....the biggest reason I love Spring! Just keep on moving anyway I can. Keep it up girls!

  • spicypetunia
    spicypetunia Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2016

    glad to see the new year's thread! :) THANK YOU for posting here ---- it's so helpful!!

    anyone tried the charity miles app? basically, corporations donate cents for miles we walk/bike/run/skip, etc. haven't used it yet, but heard great things. think I'll set it up tonight and report back. :)charity miles faq's

    slacking w/ walking & it shows - joints/stress level/waistline & energy! trying for min. 2 days/wk of total 5 mi. way down from last year, but better than nothing. I'm still a pilates nut & in great shape muscle/balance/toning-wise (stamina's another story). pilates is especially helpful since brain zapping, hello proprioception & coordination. found a jump-board class, so can finally get cardio again - we'll see. been nearly a year since I've been on tennis court -- I miss it. fingers crossed this year I'm back out there! thank you for this thread!!!

    nancyh - if it sounds possible, pilates can be extremely gentle & is often used for rehab.... I even found a few pilates-based physical therapy places that insurance covers. pilates pink ribbon prgm has instructor locator - but searches for pt & pilates + city name may be better.

    kjones - eeeaaasssy does it there, speedy. ;) should I feel guilty I've never cleaned the inside of the dishwasher? I LOVE how ritalin helps, but overdo it (dose or activities) & I do pay for it - usually totally worth it tho!! a doc helps w/ creative dosing (this is KEY - hunt 'till you find someone super knowledgeable - palliative docs often best). it doesn't keep me up nights, makes getting going in the morning so much less traumatic, & feels like I put in fresh batteries physically & cognitively. :) I'm careful w/ activity level/meds so I don't feel lousy - took a bit to find best dose/frequency, but now it's pretty smooth. for those w/ SE issues - many formulations & everyone's different, so if at first you don't succeed, try a different one! ritalin has made a HUGE improvement in my QOL. congrats kjones - hope it's as helpful to you!

  • brandall
    brandall Member Posts: 687
    edited January 2016

    I'm back…on the wagon that is. I started couch to 5k again. I told myself I couldn't watch my soap opera unless I was on the treadmill, and I'm about to start week 3. I'm going on a cruise with my mom (for my 40th birthday - woohoo!) on Saturday and we are bringing exercise clothes and doing a lot of active excursions, like snorkeling, kayaking and zip lining. I think we are going to rent bikes on one of the islands too and maybe some stand up paddle boarding. I might need a vacation from my vacation!

  • fujiimama
    fujiimama Member Posts: 800
    edited February 2016

    hello, I missed you. I had a rough start to the new year. Bronchitis, turned to pneumonia hours after happy dances of being kicked off Xeloda and Tykerb. Hate oral chemotherapy. I love my infusion girls and dearly missed them. My latest exercise plan involved raising our bed 5" for a 5' 1'' it a big of a challenge.

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2016

    Ok if I Join your thread? I'm headed into my third year of this! Can't find a permanent group cuz I'm bad at posting. Maybe I will just start here. My DD, 21 has me doing her step class. OH NO! Just on Herceptin/Perjeta so hopefully all will be ok!

    Good luck to us all and God Bless!

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited February 2016

    Nancy, maybe some gentle yoga or tai chi? Those small cycle gadgets Diana mentioned also sound like a good idea. You can put them on top of a table for an upper body workout. I'm thinking of getting a Wonder Core Smart as I need something for when I'm too lazy or tired to go out or to the gym. Maybe something also for you? Anybody here tried it? Jcfree, could this help as far as "other exercises" at home? I admit I am a sucker for "as seen on TV" exercise stuff. I want those six-pack abs.

    Teakie, great job on the walking...3 times a day!! I agree on exercise being a factor in managing disease, cancer included. JFL, love to hear about the healing bones. Although as my onc used to say healing bones hurt. Exercise can be your analgesic. Wish they could come up with an exercise pill. Diana, glad you are getting some cycling indoors now. Rose-no-more-excuses, great to hear the new combo is treating you better. Artistatheart, hope you are getting to use the new snow shoes. Kjones, yes, I've stuck with it for more than 8 years. I did a lot of napping in the beginning, and dexamethasone helped a lot then. I built up my stamina and strength v-e-r-y slowly. You can do it, too. Now I feel like age is catching up with me and I better turn the intensity up.

    Spiceypetunia, thanks for the tip on the Charity Miles. I wonder if it'll work in Europe. I guess I'll download it and see. I hope to get to the tennis courts more often, too. Last year my daughter was more into badminton and squash, and it was great to play with her, but I do prefer to be outside. Brandall, belated happy birthday! Hope you are having the time of your life!! Can't wait to hear all about it.

    Fujimama, hope you are fully recovered from the pnuemonia. That must have been rough. Are you back on Herceptin or are you on a new chemo? Badatusernames, we'll be cheering you on for the marathon open water swim.

  • fujiimama
    fujiimama Member Posts: 800
    edited February 2016

    Love reading all the new post. I think I am 90% better. My DH had it a few years ago and kept saying that what I was feeling was normal. No, my chemotherapy has been completely changed. I have brain mets, Gamma knife is working well. My chemo is now carbo and gemzar. Friday I had my load doses. Took a few days to recover, but today I feel "normal". Feels good to be back on board. Meeting with my horse trainer. I rent for 20 a lesson since a horse isn't practical in my neighborhood. Btw riding a horse is a cardio workout. Walking, jogging, and cantering all raise your heart rate at the same pace as you own to feet.
    TT

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited February 2016

    Oh my, I am exhausted just reading what you all are doing! Its been frustrating for me to have gone from very active job, kids, activity and exercise to almost nothing. Try to get movement in when possible (stairs, housework etc) but doesn't seem to take much to put in bed for a few days. Seems like the more I try to do, or to do regularly to get back into shape, the worse I feel. I have had success with restorative yoga/gentle yoga but wish I could find something else in addition. Running (which I loved) is out because of mets to spine but wondering if an elip. trainer would be gentler on joints than treadmill?


  • LindaE54
    LindaE54 Member Posts: 2,054
    edited March 2016

    Joining you ladies and hopefully reviving this thread. I'm also exhausted just reading what you are all doing and impressed. Quebec winters are tough so I bought myself a treadmill last week. Averaging about 20 minutes a day for now followed by smooth stretching. I have to pace myself because sometimes I end up having no energy after exercising. I was in such good shape prior to dx, stopped exercising for a long time because of bone mets pain, surgery etc. and I admit laziness. Nancy, thanks for starting this thread and for motivating me. Also doing some deep breathing exercises if that counts... Hope to hear from you all.

  • teacher911
    teacher911 Member Posts: 853
    edited March 2016

    Hi Linda, I am glad to see this thread still active. It is always hard to come out of winter. I live in Central New York, cold gray and wet!! I've been going to our local Y, taking classes and doing a couple days on the strength training machines. It is a balancing act because somedays I use up all my energy on the Workout and then I'm exhausted the rest of the day. Still trying to find the balance. Looking forward to opening the windows and getting outside more. Michele

  • LindaE54
    LindaE54 Member Posts: 2,054
    edited March 2016

    Oh yes Michele, opening windows and going out more. Nice mild sunny forecast for the week-end here. Now if the snow could melt to start exercising with dirt therapy...

  • MaryK87
    MaryK87 Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2016

    Hi

    I am new to these boards. i was diagnosed with stage 4 TNBC last month and had my 2nd chemo 7 days ago. i am 29 and struggling with the side effects of carbo/taxol and Zometa. i had stage 2A TNBC in 2013 that has recurred in my liver, lungs and bones. i was asymptomatic at the time of diagnosis but now every part of my body aches like hell. i am scared that i will gain weight gain because i stay in bed most of the time due to worst body pain that i get second day after chemo and its still killing me. you ladies are so inspiring :) i want your help regarding issues i have; weight gain and body pains. how did you handle this and maintained a good weight at the same time? i mean i could hardly walk due to intense pain in my hips and knees.
    Much Love

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2016

    MaryK87, we warmly welcome you to Breastcancer.org. These women are indeed amazingly inspirational, as are you!

    Have you received any treatment to help you with the pain management? Are you able to maintain a healthy, nutritional diet?

    Be kind to yourself, and take one day at a time.

    Gentle hugs,

    The Mods

  • MaryK87
    MaryK87 Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2016

    Thank You!

    i am having good diet mostly fruits veggies and lean meat. but, particularly after my second chemo, i am unable to eat anything as it gives me abdominal cramps. pain after taxol is a HORROR and no pain meds, nothing works for 6 days and i spend most of my time in bed crying in pain. today is ninth day and i am still having aches. I tried to walk for sometime but ended in bed again. In this scenario, i am sure i will gain weight and become a potato.

  • steelrose
    steelrose Member Posts: 3,798
    edited March 2016

    Hi MaryK,

    I know how frustrating it is not being able to exercise while on chemo! I could only walk for short periods, and do some light stretching. But I gradually increased the walking when I felt up to it. The most important thing is to listen to your body and not push yourself too much right now. Remember that your body is under stress from the chemo, so be kind to it! Your diet sounds excellent… it's important to keep up your strength with good protein. I lost weight on chemo, so I really wouldn't worry too much about that. Just stay strong, do what movement you can, when you can.

    Wishing you the best!

    Rose.

  • fujiimama
    fujiimama Member Posts: 800
    edited March 2016

    Hey‼ Sisters starting to feel much better. Thinking about starting another water aerobics.
    hey 🙋

  • nancyh
    nancyh Member Posts: 2,644
    edited March 2016

    Yay Fujimama! So great to see you posting. Look forward to hearing about your water aerobics class - go for it!

    MaryK - so sorry to hear you are having such a terrible time with chemo, is there anything the doctors have offered to get your pain under control? That just sounds completely awful and unacceptable as pain management in oncology is usually top priority. Sending best wishes your way. I agree with steelrose to listen to your body and don't push yourself. Not sure if this sounds good for something mild to eat, but when my tummy is feeling terrible I try bananas, canned pears, toast, applesauce and occasionally a ham and cheese omelette for protein. Chicken noodle soup hits the spot too of course.

    Hey Steelrose - always so nice to hear from you. Have you been able to do your stretching and walking lately?

    No exercise for me lately, but I'm cheering you gals on from the sidelines.

  • steelrose
    steelrose Member Posts: 3,798
    edited March 2016

    Fujiimama, your attitude is always so great. I love being in the pool… feels so good and it's easy on our bodies. Enjoy your class!

    Hi Nancy! I'm doing some walking and some yoga on my good days. I've got a lot of nerve damage from surgery/radiation to spine and now neuropathy in my feet from chemo which makes things challenging. But I feel very lucky to be able to move at all! I hope your chemo is effective and that you'll be able to get outside and walk in the warmer, drier weather. I think of you often.

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