What was your Oncotype score? And treatment?

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  • Pilgrim64
    Pilgrim64 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2016

    just curious did they recommend radiation for you?

  • Veronica31
    Veronica31 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2016

    I had an oncotype score of 32. My ki-67 was 38%, biggest tumor out of six was 4.2 cm, and just had isolated tumor cells in lymph nodes. I had BMX and just started chemo (AC x 4 and T x 12). I will then have radiation and ten years hormone therapy

  • iluvgsd5
    iluvgsd5 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2016

    My Onco score was 32. I have to go back for second surgery this week because margins weren't clear. Then I start chemo 3 weeks after that, followed by radiation.

  • Truffles1968
    Truffles1968 Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2016

    I was 47 at dx and had a BMX. Then 4 different Her2 tests to finally be found negative. Onc didn't trust surgery pathology since I had low Ki67 (5%) so he sent out for second opinion from Mayo. Oncotype was 7 (further proof I am not Her2+ per my onc). Finally getting treatment plan this week- either Tamoxifen or AI/OS. No chemo or rads. I am premenopausal but have ILC which AIs apparently work better on. But Hopkins onc recommended Tamoxifen, local onc suggested AI/OS so I am confused. They are going to talk to each other this week and then (hopefully) agree on a recommended course.

    I am just so ready to do something, I feel like I have been waiting forever for a plan.

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited January 2016

    Onco score 21-intermediate. You can see my TX in my profile below. I may be the exception, but I don't think so-I have had minimal SE's with all of my TX's and although I would not want to do it again, it was not as bad as I thought it would be. My chemo TX decision was a toss up, but I wanted to do everything I could, while I could. I have osteoporosis, so on Tamoxifen (for 5 yrs?) instead of Al's. Will have DEXA scan again next month to see how my bones are doing...

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2016

    Mine was 16--I was diagnosed at 64. 75% ER+/97%PR+. Node-neg, clean margins. Only reason they even ran the test was that my tumor was >1cm, which put me in the “gray area” (BS’ nurse said they don’t order Oncotype DX for smaller tumors with the same profile as mine due to chemo almost certainly conferring little-to-no advantage; nor for tumors >2cm, with node involvement, or Grade 3 because chemo would almost certainly work on those faster-growing cells). MO said that adding chemo to rads+AI therapy would give me only a 1% added advantage. Not worth it, considering allergies to three major antibiotic groups, asthma, and the fact that as a musician neuropathy and hearing damage would end my career. Checked the various online tools for patients, and found that 1% would translate to only an extra 6 months of life--w/o mention of what those 6 months would be like.

    If I were 10-15 yrs younger and had no comorbidities it might have been worth it.

  • Mariaann
    Mariaann Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2016

    You had your hair saved really?

  • tshire
    tshire Member Posts: 239
    edited January 2016

    Hi Mariaann, if you're talking to me, yes I really saved my hair during chemo! Check out this thread for pictures: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/6/topics/835766?page=2#idx_42

  • Mabs
    Mabs Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2016

    Tshire, congratulations! You look Beautiful! And I am sure your husband is a very lucky man as he found a brave woman to share his life with!

    I already have a 3 y old baby girl and was planning another one (in fact I was making all the medical exams to get pregnant again, when I was diagnosed). So of course dx it is a game changer, at least for a while, but I'm sure the best is yet to came to us!

    I am 37 now, currently on zoladex and tamox, but I dream that when this protocol is over (+4 y) I can have another baby...

    Do you plan to have childs? Are your doctors supporting you? Would you mind share this?


  • Loral
    Loral Member Posts: 932
    edited January 2016

    My Onco score was 34, I had a Lumpectomy and taking Tamoxifen still.

  • Lumcg
    Lumcg Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2016

    My oncotype was 11. Age 59 at diagnosis. My MO used the PREDICT website also to have another source that showed chemo would not benefit me.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited March 2016

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/Bre...


    Gene Test Helped Docs Plan Breast Ca Therapy

    Recurrence Score assay prognostic for multiple outcomes

  • Nopoli
    Nopoli Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2016

    My Oncotype score was 15 for the ILC. No chemo. Tamoxifen for 5 years.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Oncotype 21 - 1.2 cm IDC, 98% ER+, 60% PR+, HER2-, 0 lymph nodes - I consulted several oncologists who all agreed chemo would be of very little benefit to me, and that radiation, an aromatase inhibitor (Arimidex) and a bisphosphonate (Zometa) would serve me just as well.

  • enourage_mint
    enourage_mint Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2016

    Hi Ladies!

    I'm new here and still trying to wrap my head around this crazy experience and learn all I can about my treatment options. I just received my Oncotype back and it was a 10. Last time I met with my Oncologist (test not back yet) he said typically someone of my age (42) with my sized tumor (2.2cm) he would automatically start chemo. Now, with this knowledge I am thinking not so much?? I had only microscopic activity in 1 node. I am of course, fearful that if I don't do chemo, it will spread. :/ Any wisdom? I think he said I was not a candidate for any radiation. I go back Friday to discuss results.

    Thanks for any feedback! I am also strongly considering having my ovaries removed since I am finished having children. Thanks, you ladies are awesome and I'm glad I'm not ALONE! :)

  • Kath1228
    Kath1228 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2016

    hi mammaries of the past,

    We have similar diagnoses. My oncotype was 11 and chemo was not recommended. With a score of 11 I was told the benefit of chemo did not outweigh the potential risks. There are also some studies which have recently confirmed that those with scores of 0-10 who did not do chemo had very very low recurrence rates. And so, were ok in skipping chemo. I think it is the TAILORx trial.

    Since you are ER/PR+ hormonal therapy will be the best chance for keeping it from recurring. The oncotype score assumes you will be receiving hormonal therapy. My 10 year recurrence risk with an oncotype 11 is 7 percent - assuming hormonal therapy - which I am taking. You likely didn't need radiation because you did mastectomy. I had a lumpectomy so had to do radiation.

    You could have your ovaries removed but that is such a permanent solution. You could try ovarian suppression first with either zoladex or lupron injections combined with whatever hormonal therapy your doctor recommends. And then decide a bit down the road if you want the surgery. But many premenopausal women are just recommended to take tamoxifen. Butovarian suppression along with tamoxifen has shown some benefits. I did 15 months of lupron injections along with taking Femara until I went into natural menopause and am now just taking the Femara.

    All that being said, you have to do what is right for your peace of mind. Discuss with your doctor. Hope this helps.


  • enourage_mint
    enourage_mint Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2016

    Kath1228,

    Yes that helps A LOT! There is so much information out there and it's hard to sort out! I will discuss the suppression for sure!

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited May 2016

    mammariesofthe_past

    I note the comments above about the recent TailorX trial results for patients with Recurrence Scores of 0 to 10. Just a reminder to all that those recent TailorX study results are from node-negative (N0) patients:

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1510764#t=article

    Study Patients

    The study included women 18 to 75 years of age with axillary node–negative invasive breast cancer that was estrogen-receptor–positive or progesterone-receptor–positive (or both) and that did not overexpress HER2. Patients had to meet National Comprehensive Cancer Network guidelines for the recommendation of adjuvant chemotherapy,(21) including a primary tumor size of 1.1 to 5.0 cm in the greatest dimension for a tumor of any grade or a size of 0.6 to 1.0 cm in the greatest dimension for a tumor of intermediate or high histologic grade or nuclear grade (or both).

    No node-positive subjects were included, so the findings in this trial do not apply to your situation (node-positive) and do not inform understanding of your recurrence risk.

    There are other studies in the node-positive setting, such as the recent prospective WGS PlanB trial which included some node positive patients. However, it would be best to discuss the results of the recent clinical studies in the node-positive setting with your expert medical oncologist, how robust the findings are and how these studies may or may not inform decision-making in your specific case, including exact nodal status and other relevant clinico-pathologic features (e.g., age).

    You may find a second opinion very valuable.

    Best,

    BarredOwl

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2016

    "Encourage_mint" (or mammaries of the past, if you have changed your name maybe?). I was in the same boat as you and I chose against chemo and started hormone therapy. Like Barred Owl said, a second opinion will help you a lot. Take a close look at your surgical pathology and look for things like LVI or the amount of cancer in the node. Those things might influence your decision, even if doctors don't rely on those things alone to choose a treatment plan. With a complicated situation like ours, the details do matter! Hugs and best wishes going forward.

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