Copper depletion

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catfish0613
catfish0613 Member Posts: 3
Does anyone know of a doctor that is willing to write prescriptions for TM? It's the drug used to treat Wilson's disease. Clinical trials have proven copper depletion helps keep the cancer away. :)
Since it's still in clinical trial stage, my doc won't prescribe it, but I've heard that others have had success getting it prescribed. Thanks!

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  • TulipsAndDaffodils
    TulipsAndDaffodils Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2015

    Hi, sorry, I don't have an answer, but I have the same question! Hoping someone sees this and responds. It looks so promising, but I read that the phase 3 trial may not happen because the Swedish company that owns the drug is focused on bringing it out for other diseases instead of TNBC, and they won't sublicense it. I hope that's not true and phase 3 happens soon, or we can find doctors to prescribe it.

  • TectonicShift
    TectonicShift Member Posts: 752
    edited July 2020
  • letranger
    letranger Member Posts: 234
    edited December 2015

    http://www.cancernetwork.com/asco-2015-breast-cancer/drug-creates-inhospitable-environment-breast-cancer-progression

    Thanks for the post. This is a very interesting discussion and I wonder how hard it is to try to do this naturally.

    Warm regards, letranger

  • TulipsAndDaffodils
    TulipsAndDaffodils Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2015

    Thanks for the information, everyone!

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2015

    bumping this. I have been scouring the Internet about this trial and its results. Has anyone other than glitter mom who successfully had TM prescribed to them? Or any other articles of people that have?

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited January 2016

    Hi. I have been researching stuff for years but only today do I come across this! There is a way to chelate copper naturally!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15345806

    I used to (probably almost everyday post treatment) take 1/2 tsp of tumeric in 1/2 tbsp of olive oil and some black pepper) in a salad dressing. Ihave gotten lazy the last few months and stopped doing my tumeric/olive oil at meals. I occaisiionaly take theracurcumin but I am definitely ramping it up starting today!

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited January 2016

    I forgot to mention that green tea is synergistic with Tumeric. I drink a ton of green tea a day with sometimes lemon squeezed into it (because lemon supposedly increases the activity of green tea!). So I do not know for sure but I guess all of that could help with natural copper depletion, as green tea is also an iron chelator (like curcumin). Maybe green tea also chelates copper?

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited January 2016

    Kayb - honestly I have no clue. I just think taking some is better than not taking any.

    I do a bunch of stuff, green tea, baby aspirin (every other day), tumeric (in salad dressing) and theracurcumin (I take 1-300 mg capsule). I noticed that sometimes where I scrape myself I don't clot well. Then I back off everything for a day or 2. But unfortunately I do not know how much for copper depletion because I am taking it for inflammation. The copper chelation was just something really interesting that I came across today!

    Hopefully someone will look into this and post on the thread.

  • CarolinaAmy
    CarolinaAmy Member Posts: 281
    edited January 2016

    Following, since I have only begun learning about turmeric and curcumin...

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2016

    I just found this online when looking up curcurmin... https://examine.com/supplements/curcumin/

    For any systemic purpose (requiring absorption from the intestines), then an oral supplementation of curcumin in the range of 80-500mg would be required assuming an enhancement. Curcumin is poorly absorbed inherently, and one of the following is mandatory:

    • Pairing curcumin with Black Pepper (piperine)
    • Curcumin phytosomes complexed with Phosphatidylcholine (Meriva or BCM-95)
    • Curcumin nanoparticles (THERACUMIN)
    • Water-soluble curcumin (polyvinyl pyrrolidone)

    If one of the above enhancements are not used, then too little curcumin will be absorbed and even doses of up to 4,000mg may be wholly inactive (8-16g would only be slightly active).

    If using curcumin for intestinal purposes, then absorption from the intestines into the blood is not necessarily required. Due to this, one can simply use Turmeric at the dose of 2-4g daily or take curcumin supplementation without any of the aforementioned enhancements.



    Also found this: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400915/Curcumin-or-Turmeric.html

    Take 400 to 600 milligrams of turmeric extracts (available in tablets or capsules) three times per day or as directed on the product label. Look for products standardized for 95% curcuminoids. Neither curcumin nor turmeric taken orally is well absorbed unless taken with black pepper or piperine, a constituent of black pepper responsible for its pungency. When shopping for supplements, make sure that the one you choose contains black pepper extract or piperine. (If you're cooking with turmeric, be sure to add some black pepper to the food.). Be patient when taking turmeric supplements: the full benefits may not be apparent for eight weeks.

    Don't use turmeric if you have gallstones or bile duct dysfunction. Pregnant women shouldn't use it without their doctors' approval. In rare cases, extended use can cause stomach upset or heartburn. (Note that piperine can slow the elimination of some prescription drugs including phenytoin [Dilantin], propranolol [Inderal], and theophylline. Some evidence also suggests that curcumin can interfere with a chemotherapy agent used to treat breast cancer, so if you're being treated for this disease, be sure to discuss the advisability of taking curcumin with your physician.

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