Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited November 2015

    Good afternoon, everyone. I haven't been on my computer much the last few days so I had some reading/catching up to do. My "baby" brother, all 6 foot 6 inches of him, was in town from Tulsa this weekend with his wife and their grown daughter came from GA with her dog. There was lots of visiting and my mother decided we should have our Thanksgiving dinner on Sunday while everyone could be there. My sister who lives about 3 hours drive away came for several days without her dh because they have ole McDonald's farm and can't leave all the animals. She went home with a new little animal, a miniature goat. It was small enough to ride in a dog carrier.

    The brother who had back surgery was present for dinner on Sunday but he looks like someone who has suffered and is still suffering He is getting by on pain meds. His left leg is completely numb and he walks stooped over. He's tall, too, about 6 foot 5 inches. We all feel really bad about his situation. I wish there was something I could do for him. I'm sure all of you have experienced the same helplessness in regards to a family member. Anne, you feel that way now about your brother, I'm sure.

    I went to the gym this morning, came home and was all set for a nice Monday at home when I decided I'd better glance at the calendar in the kitchen. Sure enough, I had a dentist apptment at 1 pm. This was a new hygienist for me and I loved her. She was so gentle and skilled and didn't cause me any pain.

    Afterwards I stopped at Hobby Lobby and bought more yarn for crocheting. I gave away three hats this weekend to my sisters and niece. Now I'm working on more to take to the cancer center. I'll have to post some pictures.

    Happy Monday.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    If instead of a gem, or even a flower, we should cast the gift of a loving thought into a friend, that would be giving as the angels give.

    George MacDonald

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited November 2015

    Linda, Belated Happy Birthday!!!

    Joan, the day before Thanksgiving dinner should be for prepping and/or traveling!! :o(

    Jackie, the prior Avatar with kitty in a cup and now the Avatar with kitty on a blanket have a nice pop of yellow.

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    I took the following photo during the 1st week of November.

    Such a lovely shade of pink leaves on the ornamental pear trees.

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  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015


    What a pretty picture! Living in Florida, we miss those things! I can post a picture of sunset on the Gulf!! :)

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015
  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2015

    BEAUTIFUL! JEAN

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    The happiness which brings enduring worth to life is not
    the superficial happiness that is dependent on circumstances.
    It is the happiness and contentment that fills the soul even
    in the midst of the most distressing circumstances and the
    most bitter environment. It is the kind of happiness that grins
    when things go wrong and smiles through the tears. The happiness
    for which our souls ache is one undisturbed by success or failure,
    one which will root deeply inside us and give inward relaxation,
    peace, and contentment, no matter what the surface problems may be.
    That kind of happiness stands in need of no outward stimulus.

    Billy Graham

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited November 2015

    Lovely photo!!

    Our front porch light now has a green bulb for vets!

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited November 2015

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    In loving memory of Bob and in honor of all those who served or are now serving for us.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    (((( Hugs to you, Anne )))). That is very touching and may I add my thanks to Bob ( departed but living on in in memory ) and all who served this wonderful country in which we have the great pleasure to be free citizens. No matter how little or big, job well done.

    Blessings,

    Jackie


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    I need to say as well -- great pictures -- all. The sun has been trying hard to come out here, but it will not really make it. A storm, the weather people say is on the way. It has been a mite windy, but tolerable. That is helping to carry that storm here.

    I'm really conflicted here. Out where I feed at Wal-Mart, my sweet old, old yellow and white fellow finally quit showing up. The most upsetting part of that was not only that we spent so many yrs. together. I could sometimes hold him, and had many a wonderful conversation. The last time he came down the path to get his daily ration ( fairly good sized ) he remained as skinny and to that degree somewhat frail as he had been for nearly a yr. He seemed to have just about the same energy and enthusiasm. We talked and I petted him a bit, then put his food down and left as I always did. The next day he didn't show up nor has he now for pretty well over three weeks.

    My sensation is that due to his somewhat thin and frail condition --- some other predator may have come upon him while napping or something and perhaps that is why when he actually appeared for the most part fine, that he seems to have gone to a better place. I still miss that old sweet boy, but a couple of weeks before this happened another cat --- a nice mostly med gray, with if you look closely very pale orange spots on his sides, almost like well placed polka dots. That has made it a bit easier to go out to Orange & White's and my special feeding area.

    My quandary is this: When the gray cat came he seemed very reserved and somewhat wary, though otherwise determined, invited or not ( well, hey, I'd never say no ) to join in with a good meal. Since he always 'turned' up from the same general area ( actually, there is nothing there really but an unused farm field ) but the cat never came from the farm the direction of the farm house really quite far away. He instead has always come from the highway ( in town the speed is well regulated ) but the area I feed in is well across the street from any homes.

    The cat did not look abandoned when he showed up --- not scrawny and his hair and feet looked fine. Still he has continued to show up -- always still from the highway ( could be dangerous, of course ) side of the thicket where I feed. Not to sound horrid about it, but I always felt that I'd have good reason when my Orange & and White sweetie was no longer there, to finally give up the rather long ( approx. 7 miles ) drive to Walmart's and though I was in no hurry, save myself the gas and time and often big in-convenience.

    Obviously, I'm still going out there. It would feel SOOOO bad if I thought ( I have been calling the cat Mr. Gray ) this loving, actually quite attractive cat was just being something of a little pig and helping himself to a decent hand-out, and actually belonged to someone. I'm not wanting to take in any more cats at my house period. But I confess, I've thought a time or two -- should I scoop Mr. Gray up and bring him to my house ( should he want to remain outside I think he could learn the outdoor ropes here since he seems to have a fairly calm nature, or should I not. I know how I would feel if one of my outdoor cats ( I have three that are actually indoor/outdoor ) suddenly disappeared. Yet, for such a long time I've had that thought that I could save such time and money and work ( in winter, I have to shovel out the cat area with a snow shovel and as the crow flies it can be a bit over 1/4 th. of a block. I'm in a holding pattern now --- as causing someone to lose a pet they love would upset me greatly, and in truth --- I never felt the cat was really un-familiar with where it was. Seemed to not have been nervous or particularly wary of its surroundings. Well thank you all for letting me rant. I guess I'll just wait things out for awhile yet, even though I'm so tempted.

    Jackie

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited November 2015

    Jackie, Is there somewhere you could advertise Mr. Gray to see if he is lost? He doesn't sound particularly feral to me either and he's always coming from the same direction. The orange guy sounds like he was at the end of his life getting thinner and thinner. If he was enjoying his meals and eating, it could have been a tumor getting most of the nourishment. I'm sorry he's no longer around. It's difficult if there's no closure.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    Wren, that sounds like a great idea to me. There is a vet's office a mile or so down the road, and I may consider making up a bit of a flyer type poster and take it around there and to the houses across the street. Though I know cats can 'travel' a good way --- I'm not feeling the notion that this one does. I just want to do the right thing. If I knew for totally sure he had a home to go home to, I would likely just stop going out there, but my guilt wouldn't let me off the hook unless I was sure.

    Thanks for a good suggestion. Sometimes you are so close to the forest you forget there are trees there.

    Jackie

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015


    Jackie, I would probably do what you said.....scoop him up an take him home. Ypu might save hopim since he crosses a street! I hate to see animals loose on a street! You can tell, I am an animal lover!

    Then, post a sign at the vet's office and a couple of places. If someone really loved their pet, they will call.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited November 2015

    suersis - there are a number of places online where you can get lists of foods with their amounts of vit K listed (as I recall kale is the highest). I understand about the cost of prescriptions. I had a hard time changing from warfarin to xarelto ($65 per month) to enoxaparin ($153 per month), but I got so I couldn't breathe and didn't want to just take asthma medication (and thus more side effects) so that I could tolerate it. I had to give up a couple other things to enhance my quality of life. I was fortunate that I could make that adjustment, I know that not everyone can. If warfarin doesn't give you any side-effects be glad!! :) The key to keeping stable on warfarin (as puffin said) is to eat consistently. Don't eat a bunch of salad one day and none the next. Eat greens every day - not just greens, of course, but as a regular part of your well balanced diet.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    mysunshine, yes, it has been hard to not take him. Though there are houses across the street, I'm not totally convinced he actually is coming from there. I really don't know, but have just been estimating and trying to make a best guess from how he enters the thicket. There is also a Mexican restaurant very near by where the cat walks to reach the thicket. I don't think the cat bothers with the restaurant dumpsters as I've not really seen him lurking there at all.

    I didn't say before, but one other time a yr. or two ago, a cat showed up in the thicket for a few days -- and in hindsight I keep thinking ( it was gray as well ) that it was in fact, Mr. Gray then too. That has made me reluctant to do anything too soon since Mr. Gray seemed healthy ( no fight wounds or even older scars ). Still this cat back then only came a very short while, a week or less, then disappeared. I originally intended to give Mr. Gray a chance to return to what I thought could be a near-by home. I've now been feeding him for a couple of weeks and it seems as though maybe his previous home situation may have changed since he has been there on a consistent basis.

    Around here it often happens that if something happens to an older person who may have had a loved pet, the "family" or "executor" doesn't want to deal with THAT burden ( ggrrr ) and will often put the animal out ( easy around her to figure out where most of the feral cat colonies are located ) and go on with the business at hand. As I thought Mr. Gray MIGHT have actually visited long time ago, I was nervous about rushing since Mr. Gray seems comfortable in general. Wanted to make sure if he had a home still, he had ample time to make his way there again. I will maybe give it till the week-end and then figure the best thing to do. Mainly thinking here that I'm usually around home for two or three days over the week-end where I can spend more time helping Mr. Gray adjust should it feel like he needs to be re-home from the area of the thicket.

    I also might add -- that across the field to the East much work is going on since the process has begun for a super sized ( from the look of it ) Super Wal-Mart. Mr. Gray walks from the West towards the North to reach the thicket. Oddly enough, I'm in a field that is down a ways from the older Wal-Mart that is being replaced. I'm actually across from the front parking area of the old still in use Wal-Mart, though the land I'm on actually belongs to a farmer.

    Well, we will see --- I'm only good for so long before I have to do something. My little guy Jimmie Dean was dumped at another cat colony. I lasted about two weeks with him before I could no longer stand it. I found him one day --- not with the other colony cats, standing off a bit. When he saw me he rushed over and wanted petted.

    No easier way to tug on my heart strings. As he was un-neutered, I gave him something to eat apart from the other cats ( who do the I'm in charge here interloper thing usually ) and continued to do so, but every day Jimmie ( who wasn't yet Jimmie ) ran up to me wanting to be petted more than he seemed to want to be fed. Finally, all I could think of was this fantastic, loving cat who was going to run to me when I got to the old building where the cats stayed, twine himself around my legs, and look in my eyes with the most loving looks you could imagine. So, I put my cat crate in the car that one day. When I got there, of course Jimmie came running. I picked him up and told him I didn't think he was very hungry and that we'd just skip that for a little while. Put him in the crate, and after I got the other cats fed we came home and Jimmie has been here ever since. About 7 yrs. now. Of course, after he acclimated a bit I got an appt. for him and one other newcomer to be neutered ( both males ), as I don't believe in un-neutered or spayed pets. It didn't change Jim's personality one bit. Dh and I still have to guard against times when Jimmie just insists on 'his' attention, and will nearly trip us if we are not careful and look where we are going. He just starts twining around your legs if you are standing still for a moment. We will see how it goes.

    Jackie


  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited November 2015

    Don’t recall if you’d mentioned it already, but has “Mr. Gray” been scanned to see if he has an implanted microchip? If he has one, it’s a sign that he belongs to someone (or did at one time). Usually, the person who registered the chip is notified that the pet’s been found. If he isn’t “chipped,” that doesn’t mean he’s feral and not a runaway, but still less likely that he’s a pet-with-wanderlust. If you do adopt him, getting him chipped is a good idea.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    Chi Sandy, not as yet. I will have it done likely if I take him -- on my way home. There is a vet's office close to where I live with a scanner. One never knows and I'm told that if a pet had a chip put in a long time ago --- they could stop registering after a few yrs. Hmmmm, but I would do what I could to gain as much information as possible. None of my pets here have chips actually. They are all ( save for the last few ) old enough that it wasn't in practice as yet in our very small town. The practice was that should you have a pet missing ( for any reason ) to put up posters around the area where the pet went missing and to check every couple of days with Animal Control who picks up 'strays'.

    Our Animal Control ( looking on almost all cats as 'wild' ) do not handle them the same as dogs. Meaning just that they don't pick them up nearly as much. Cats usually ( un-like Jimmie ) often will if dumped, turn a bit feral and not approach people after awhile. If they have been put out very recently many will after a short while, but Jimmie was quite exuberant and determined ( he must have been showered with attention where he had been ) to be handled immediately on seeing me. I was usually the only person who ever went to that building and then only once a day.

    Jackie

  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2015

    Jackie, You make me miss our kitty, Cookie. She was the smartest cat we ever had and we had quite a few. She understood so much. She was a shelter cat, a Holstein, 5 black spots and a black tail! She died this spring, we had her for 8 years. After our previous cat died, DH said no more cats, we travel too much. well I lasted 2 weeks before getting Cookie. This time I'm being good, and we will be kitty less til we stop traveling. The one before Cookie was 21 when she died. They certainly become members of our family, sniff, sniff. Jean

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited November 2015

    Jackie, I’m lucky enough to live in a Chicago neighborhood that has its own discussion board in both the NextDoor and EveryBlock sites. We get postings about lost and found pets all the time, complete with photos. Is Centralia large enough to be on either of these sites? If so, that could save you a lot of time and expense of posting flyers.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015



    Jackie, You are a good person! I have had many animals over the years. My kity I have left was brought to me as a ferrel 14 years ago. Her name is Happy! :) She still says away from strangers, but sleeps on my bed every night.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    Chi Sandy, I sort of doubt it. There are only about 14,000 residents here and we are about 4 1/2 hours South of Chicago. I figured I would make a poster for the a couple of the more local Vets, and one to hand carry with me --- and I would knock on the doors across the street even though I'm feeling for some reason Mr. Gray doesn't cross the street. It is just a feeling though and may have no validity what-so-ever. I do worry about Mr. Gray and since we had the storm late this afternoon --- it will be interesting ( I do go early on Thurs. ) to see if he comes to the thicket. If he REALLY did actually have a home ( since animals are so institutive ) with a storm coming he may have chosen to go back there. Just have to play be ear on it I think.

    Bonnet -- cats make tremendous family members. Though dogs are wonderful, they can be though fantastic ,sloppy pets. Mine constantly bring in dirt and debris and leave trails all over my laminate wood floors. I wouldn't trade them for anything but the cats are much neater and cleaner and a whole lot quieter. The dogs are all instant doorbells any time anyone pulls into our drive-way. Most of our cats have made it into or at least close to the 20's. They are a joy for the most part.

    Jackie

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited November 2015

    Jackie, I have said this before. You remind me of my animal-loving sister, Linda. Your new avatar is so cute.

    Hello to everyone.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    Once you accept and rejoice in your authenticity, you begin
    to see things as YOU are. You begin to see the authentic self
    is the Soul made visible. Godspeed on your journey to wholeness.

    Sarah Ban Breathnach

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited November 2015

    UGH!!! Once again I have written a rather long post, and lost it!! Me and computers are not friends right now!

    I was telling you all about what a hard time I had making Lucia a photo book in shutterfly last night. I was up till after 11 when I usually go to my room by 9 to watch TV. I have over 400 pix in my computer, and some are in folders, some not, I have lots of duplicates, and pretty much had to download each picture separately. Then my laptop kept shutting off, so I had to start all over. I switched to my daughter's laptop about 8, which worked fine, but hadn't downloaded two pix that had to be included. What a job that was! I would have liked to take more time with it, but they had a 50% off sale that ended last night.

    I have promised myself that if I finally organize my pix, I will get myself a new laptop.

    Jackie- haVe you thought of putting notices up at your local stores? I love my two dogs, but am not really an animal lover and don't know that I would think to check at the vets if one of my dogs was missing. I would post a notice everywhere I could though. And I don't go to the post office a lot either. Just a thought. Good luck with Mr Grey, whatever happens.

    Anne

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015


    Anne, Now you know to check with local vets if one of your dogs go missing. A lot of people post there as there usually is a bulletin board in the office.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited November 2015


    If you take vitamins or supplements, I just found the site, LuckyVitamin.com. You can find ALOT of information there and ingredient lists and some prices are less than Amazon. Really good.

  • Emmiejohns
    Emmiejohns Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2015

    Ha! I worked through manual typewriters, mag card Selectrics, early Apple computers, dos, then windows, Word Perfect and Microsoft Word (1 - 8). Not only computer "savvy" but can work without them, too. Just because somebody is "older" doesn't make them un-savvy. Just saying.

    All that aside, I really relate to what you are saying. It does seem that most of the people leaving messages are younger. My own sister died at the age of 45 after fighting bc for 10 years (that was back in 1998). So when I got diagnosed at 64, my first thought was "look how long I have lived already!" I was diagnosed with idc after all the various scans, then biopsy, then another (surgical) biopsy confirmed cancer. Then surgery for sentinel node, which was thankfully negative. I am now undergoing Radiation Therapy.

    My doctor at the breast center didn't really give me much information. I asked for a copy of the report, and did my own research. I read all the information everyone got, and I do wonder if my doctor, too, thinks I am "un-savvy" because of my age? Before I could ask him much, he sent me off to the local cancer center for Radiation therapy.

    I realize that I am not going to die young, even if I don't make it through today, and my kids are grown, even my grand-kids are pretty much grown. Sometimes I feel unimportant compared to the younger women. Not their fault, but it IS sadder, I think, when a young woman with young kids gets sick. So far, I have to say I am doing fairly well, but radiation is starting to wear me down.

    Thanks for starting a thread for us "older" women.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2015

    WELCOME Emmiejohns,

    I am so glad you found us. We are as young or as old as we feel. It is sad isn't it, when the younger ladies get this. Worrisome thinking that they must carry this burden while caring for wee ones. No matter what amt. of fear we may have felt I always think of them having so much more.

    I'm not computer savvy at all, but don't much care. I had planned to avoid 'computering', but decided one day while dh was using it that it looked interesting. In no time I was hooked, even if I didn't really know what I was doing yet.

    We are a pretty diverse bunch here and talk about lots of different things --- even cancer sometimes. There is life after this dx and most of the txs are done, the hair has returned, and you have gotten enough energy back to start catching up.

    I do want to tell you --- you are very important. Here's one way of looking at this -- everyone here is here for a reason. It may be a reason we don't even think about --- like having the ability to know instantly who in a room is 'down,' lonely, 'feeling worthless' or whatever and smile at them. Most people never do a big thing, but oh the thousands of little taken for granted things like that smile, holding a door open, answering the phone with a smile, leaving a few cents in the change tray by a cash register for someone who hasn't quite enough. Just don't forget that little things turn into mountains when done often enough. One of those things may be the care and concern you feel for the younger women who must walk this path. They have a reason for being just as we do. They are important for their reasons and we are just as much for ours.

    Rads can wear you out -- they did me a little, long time ago when I had them. I fought it off by trying to take a walk everyday. It seemed to work for me. Looing forward to hearing from you here often.

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited November 2015

    Welcome Emmiejohns. I worked thru the same list of machines. I love my computer and use it every day. One of my volunteer jobs requires using a computer to stay in touch with the other volunteers and management. I even have computer access to my medical team and records.

    I feel for the younger women too. It's not the same at all when you have little kids at home, will need chemo due to age, and really mourn changes to the body. They are a brave lot.

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