Hi, using only natural treatments, am done with Western path

You are all so kind I was very hurt by what BLUEPEARL said to me as I'm still very new to all of this and way to sensitive. I tried to ignore it but it hurt all the same. I don't understand some folks I am not saying that all chemo is garbage but being stage four it will not be for me. It's the tamoxifen that has thrown me into menopause and the wrinkles are from that I think. I get the CBDs from a store here in Vancouver. The oil I take before bed now helps you sleep the CBDs I take three times a day. They kind of feel like I've had a strong cup of coffee. No THC in those so no funny stuff. I do also smoke in a water pipe indica strain marajuana higher levels of CBDs and all of the other good stuff. My tumour is shrinking down another .5 cm. So far I've gone from 4.8 to 2.3 so I'm going to stay the course . Whatever I need to do to stay as far from PALLATIVE care as possible.

Have a great night ladies and thanks

Wendy

Thank you Marijen well I've been at this for six months now and the shrinkage was noted on my last two oncologist appointments. She gets out the caliphers and measured and tells me it's shrinking but that I will not be able to get rid of the mother cells. Hmm I accept that challenge fully. I also think diet is huge I juice a ton of carrots and other veggies everyday. No processed sugar at all no alchohol ( that was a hard one I love my bubbly champagne). No meat and I try to stay away from omega 6 oils. There is a guy on the internet Chrisbeatcancer.com he does a salad video so I do that as well. Intermittent fasting is great to though I need to be careful I've already lost fifteen pound on tamoxifen . Love this thread stay positive I know it's hard but I think that plays a role as well. Hugs to everyone.

Frill not omega 3 s omega 6 oils are what I avoid. Canola, safflower oil and sunflower oil those are the bad fats. Olive oil is the best then coconut oil avocado oil these are the good for you.

HappyHammer I think if you start the sugar thing this way, it might be easier - you can cut out anything where sugar is in the first 5 ingredients, then 3. It's hard with stuff like salad dressing and ketchup. In fact, I may have just given in on that one, I don't cover stuff in it, only really use it on french fries, not as a sandwich spread, so I'm not eating much of it on the rare occasions when I do.

It's easier when I'm in Houston, Whole Foods is right there. We're not getting a WF in Shreveport till next year. We were looking into buying meat from friends who raise cattle, but even open range chickens and cows get fed feed that probably has hormones in it.

But.....there's venison, lol! I was tickled to get some of that. I was like - I KNOW there's no hormones there!!!!!!!!

I'm figuring, number one is dropping 40 pounds or so. That comes with cutting out processed foods, which I can do just by passing on the chips, and picking up the grapes and tomatoes, cutting out sodas, etc. Focusing on veggies and fruits - getting them added back in and made more of a focus......all of that is more important than checking salad dressing for sugar......for now. That said, the obvious stuff with sugar in it, I'm passing on. The goal will be to eliminate.

That's sort of hard for me, usually I'm a do it all the way girl, but I have others to ease into it too, so I want to get them on board too.

i gave up sugar in April. I still have raw honey and pure maple syrup. On sunday i had brownies with cream cheese icing and was sick all day yesterday. That was interesting to me being a sugar addict. I still crave it psychologically but my body says "NO". I started to just sqirt dijon mustard, olive oil and balsamic vinegar on salads and would not go back to bttled dressings. I used to say if i got a terminal diagnosis i would eat nothing but sugar but now see that it makes me feel like crap.

Chemo done today! Now to tweak my dietary intake and get a move on before surgery. I'm working on no processed foods, no sugar, very little dairy, and lots of fresh fruits/veggies. I'm taking my cue from Vickie Sewart who is in the UK. She is hitting the 7 year mark, cancer free, Her2+ (without using Tamoxifen), and she did it with revamping her diet to near vegetarian, no sugar unless it was naturally in fruit, etc., and adding Turmeric to nearly every meal, and exercise 5 days per week. I know, everyone is different, but right now, that's my plan....

Warrior on, women!

I need to get the Anti-Cancer book. I bought another book that one of y'all recommended to me and it's WONDERFUL. It's just a huge motivator and validates my whole position on some of those after surgery anti-hormone therapies.

Of course, I started my day with two sips of diet mountain dew and a snack sized candy bar. Although, hey, way down from a Coke Zero, cup of coffee and a muffin or breakfast taco. I'll be brewing some tea and grabbing some fruit here in a few and I'm already drinking water. I could still have a breakfast taco - whole wheat taco, veggie sausage, organic cheese, tomatoes, onions, potatoes.....lol maybe after I'm better.

Reading labels has really been an eye-opener! I have been making my own salad dressings and adding that Dijon was a great idea, Wrenn! And, Frill- we don't have a WF either but I do go to the one in Charlotte when over that way.

I have cut out most dairy and don't eat a lot of meat anyway. When I want a burger- we grill the veggie burgers and they are good! I'm going to look up ketchup recipes without sugar and try that- if it's terrible- will have to eat the "real" stuff- don't have it often but when I do...want it to be good

Exercise is key, too....started yoga last week after getting the ok from the surgeon,,,however, have developed a seroma at the LUMP site so am trying to just get out and walk til that heals.

Thanks, for all of the great ideas! I so appreciate having you all to "talk" with and get advice!

Warrior on- love that!

I forgot about Paleo - there are some parts I didn't necessarily agree with, but definitely things that can be incorporated. Still need to post my vitamin/herb routine and get some feedback from the "experts", although I know we're all learning. Oh! Just realized I need to order the Anti-Cancer book!

I lost 50+ lbs. on sort of a hybrid of Atkins/S. Beach/Paleo, but a trip to Spain and all that paella, Rijoa and tapas wrecked that last spring. Gained back 20. But even though I know I should lose as much as I can before starting Femara this Jan. (and there’s Thanksgiving, that Mediterranean cruise plus Christmas before that), ever since I started rads I’ve been craving sweet & creamy stuff--pie & gelato, mostly. At least it does tamp down my appetite for awhile. And the other day, the RO told me that he doesn’t want me gaining or LOSING weight till I’m done with rads.

MJGJ,

Congratulations on finding the right combo,of treatments to make you feel well. Ultimately, whatever our choices, that should be our common goal.

I am re-posting something I wrote early on in this thread, in hopes of clarifying the sources about oncologists not taking chemo.

"Let me clarify your comment on the McGill survey. It was done in 1986 and involved only 118 doctors, so it was far from huge. They were asked about one type of chemo, cisplatiin. Cisplatiin was fairly new at the time, with limited evidence to support it's use for non-small cell lung cancer. The study isoften referenced , and referenced incorrectly. In the end, it's a 29 year old survey, dealing with one chemo drug for one type of cancer with responses from 118 oncologists

oh exbrnxgrl isn't judging. She is just trying to help

Wendy3, can I get that raw oatmeal bar recipe? I've been looking for a good one! lmk

Tulsi - I need to add that to my list, too!!!!!!!