Choices, recovery times for bilateral mastectomy/keeping my job
Hi, all -
Am almost through chemo (yay!) but upcoming prophylactic double mastectomy looms.
Apologize in advance for the long thread.
A lot on my plate. Live alone, have house to pay for, and keep up - utilities, gas, insurances, etc. House in rural area - have a lot of equity but nothing selling. Could slash the price by half and it would still sit.
My work is in an at-will contract. Was out of work for 2 years and very lucky to have this job. In rural area there is nothing else, so work in nearby city and stay in a room during the week. Have been w/ the same employment company, contracted with a large corporation for over a year. Reason we are working for large corp is that they are relocating major offices. As our contract has gone, we have had weekly implications we will be moving cross country to one or another southern state. Plans change like the wind here. If we want to keep the job, we have to move eventually when they close this branch down. So far, we are still here in my home state, and are supposed to be until Dec 31. If all were "normal", I'd follow the job and stay in temporary housing.
Issue: Surgery scheduled for mid Nov/early Dec. Large corp insists on 60 hr workweeks to stay in the contract. I have gotten by on 45-50 hrs to accommodate my chemo. It hasn't been bad at all. BUT, if I have to be gone over 2 weeks, it will be sayonara. Have familiarized myself w/ the FMLA. And as much as I may very well be entitled to my job when allowed to return, it may be gone on Dec 31, or they may just give me a hard time and a fight on my hands. Which will still mean no $ coming in.
I was initially going to try for complete reconstruction up front, as it would accommodate my lifestyle - wanting to keep as much musculature as I can, without having to have something foreign inside me. When I was first diagnosed, our contract was waving in the wind, so thought I'd be unemployed again so what the he**. But job still in good stead right now so I'll need to get back to it.
Had plastic surgeon appt this week and he confirmed this will be an 8-week recovery. When I discussed timing of the surgery w/ onc, he felt strongly it should be accomplished in November, early December at the latest, and suggested look into postponing reconstruction for a shorter recovery if that's what I must do. Plastic surgeon says this will still be a minimum of 4 weeks out - had thought I might just want implants for now until I get reconstruction done. Onc thinks the implants add to the recovery - to just have them removed for now.
Of course, breast center social worker is now on temporary leave for several weeks.
And being divorced, and still hopeful for a man in my life down the road, really facing this surgery, possibly losing the job, the house - and then finally taking a look at how this will no longer be my body - well, this has been a tough week for me.
Sorry to carry on. What I really wonder are your recovery times - if you have been in a position where you must recover ASAP. With or without reconstruction - types of reconstruction.
Am 61, and a bit overweight, but other than the BC, in very good health. Just a rotten family/genetic history so surgery is a must do.
Thanks so much for plowing through all of this.
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Peg645: I'm so sorry you are in this position. I hope it works out for you. I had a bmx after chemo on Sept. 22, so I'm two days short of the three week mark. I didn't have reconstruction, as BS feels strongly I should wait until after I've healed from rads. So I know that everyone is different, but I can tell you what it might be like for you at the 2 week mark. In theory, you could return to work, but you will be tired and sore. But if you had to do it to hang onto the job, you certainly could show up and as long as it is a desk job, you'd probably be okay. Maybe they could be generous with breaks during the day, a private office (if you don't have one) and such?
In any case, before my surgery, I asked for as little as possible in the way of opiods (see the TORADOL thread and spinoffs for the rationale). I think that really helped; my head was clear pretty quickly. I didn't have the pain port and was able to get myself entirely off percocet/norco, even at night, by the 4th day after surgery. They gave me a 7 day supply of something called diclofenac--a 12-hour time-release pill that really helped. But since the one week mark, it has been TylenolEX only. I'm down to about 3/day. I had the drains out at 10 days post surgery but then developed an infection at one drain site and am currently on antibiotics. So that's the real question that no one can answer yet: will you have drains in when you go back to work.
As for energy, well, I'm still tired, and I don't have full range of motion yet. When the infection turned up, I'd just started getting my energy back, and that did set me back for a little while. I'm guessing that you won't be able to go back to work at full steam, but if you need to show your face and get things done, you should be able to handle it if your managers are accommodating and let you take more breaks than usual. There are small things that will loom large, like when I had the drains in, my morning shower routine took much longer. It was partly the drains and partly just the fact that I moved very slowly. Friends came in after surgery with dinner (my husband works a lot of nights, and I have a teenage son who needs to be fed no matter how his mom is feeling), and I was surprised that even 8 days out, I was grateful not to cook. I still am not unloading the dishwasher, and it still hurts to reach for things on any but the lowest cabinet shelf in the kitchen, if that helps. I'm lucky to be able to work from home; I find my attention span is a little short, but I can handle most of what I have to do, nearly all of which is on the computer.
So if you have to go back to work, just know that it won't be ideal, but if your managers are okay with letting you pace yourself, you can probably manage, though you'll be pretty tired. If there are complications from surgery, though, you might not be able to handle it. Please be very good to yourself. And good luck!
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You are in a really tough position. Not sure what to suggest for you. I am 45 and was in excellent shape(weights and cardio 5X/week)before my BMX with immediate tissue expander placement. I was on slow release Dilauted for 1 week post surgery. I had family here helping me for the first 2 weeks as you can't lift anything or push anything(broom, vacuum). Wiping a counter was hard for the first 4 weeks just due to the pressure that it causes on the chest muscles.
-Drains removed day 5 post
-washed my own hair 1 week post
-Drove 2 weeks post but just short distances.
Your biggest issue will be with mobility. You can't lift your arms very well for the first few weeks. You have to be very diligent with stretching to get your mobility to slowly come back. My recovery was not typical as I was ahead of the typical patient. This due to my physical shape pre surgery. I was very good at 6 weeks. I didn't have any complications. I also had the luxury of not working and was just able to heal. If I did too much my body would tell me and I had to back off. I would not have wanted to go back to work until 6 weeks. My friend just recovering from similar surgery is going to be off 8 weeks. She has had more pain and more problems with mobility and swelling than I did. She is also younger than me. I am not sure that if you are wanting a short recovery, then immediate reconstruction may not be a great option for you. In saying that I am glad that I did have everything done in one step. The thought of having to go in again to have tissue expanders put in at a later time is not fun.
You have some tough choices ahead and I feel for you.
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Peg - you are under so many stresses at one time. The anesthesia for the single Mx was the worst for me. I was exhausted and didn't really feel like myself for about six weeks. I only took one pain pill (Norco) the first night and used Tylenol after that for a couple of days. I was walking around the block a lot, starting the next day, and limiting the use of my arms. I took everything step by step - single Mx & sinus node biopsy, pathology report, oncotype DX, prophylactic Mx & TE placement in both sides, and eventually exchange for cohesive gel implants. The entire process took a year and was manageable. The second and third surgeries (prophylactic Mx & TEs, exchange) were easy for me, even though I had drains each time that lasted for a week to ten days. Each person responds differently but it's OK to do it in a step by step process.
Take care and you will have a lot of support here.
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Thank you for the replies!
Please keep them coming. Such a help to hear everyone's experiences.
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Hi Peg,
Gosh, I feel for you and can understand your concerns. As you can see from the responses so far, everyone's experience is very different. We're roughly the same age and I didn't have any difficulties with lifting my arms right after surgery. I had expanders put it during the bmx but wish I never had reconstruction, but that's beside the point right now. I agree if you are recovering from bmx and not reconstruction too, your recovery may be easier. Without knowing what line of work you are in and what your physical requirements are, it's hard to say with certainty how you will feel. I was able to get back to my job in two weeks but I have a very sedentary job. I had three drains and all were out in less than a week. That part of the recovery that was the most difficult was dealing with long tubes and the bulbs on the end which require emptying a few times a day, which is inconvenient. Otherwise the pain wasn't awful and very manageable with OTC pain meds. Wearing a compression garment was a must. In fact, the light pressure around my chest was comforting.
Again, I don't know what your physical requirements are at work but I don't think you could possibly be ready for 60 hour weeks in just 2 weeks. What happens if you postpone surgery to 2016? Will your job be more permanent? I guess if this is a prophylactic surgery do you have the "luxury" of postponing until your employment is more secure?
Good luck - I hope whatever you decide works out.
Amy
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Everyone is so different. I had a double mastectomy with tissue expanders. I took pain medicine for less than a week,returned to work and drove at the 10 day mark and my expanders were filled to full size in less than 3 weeks (600cc). I am also young and strong and very healthy. My surgeons said to plan for no more than 3 weeks off and I beat that. You just have to listen to your own body. Good luck
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The job is just a desk job. Not really any running around - except to get moving away from the desk!
I will not be having any radiation based on my gene issues.
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Personally I could have done a reasonable desk job after three weeks. I was up walking the dogs on day two. I did need help with drains and dressings for a couple weeks. I was directed to do Dino-arms per my PS for four weeks but handled that with a step ladder, a grabber, and deep knee bends. A mx w no recon would prob be easier. I did narcotics for 4 - 5 days then Tylenol.
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Hi peg,
Everyone's recovery story is different. I think most agree that not having any type of recon does tend to shorten the recovery period. I know you are in a tenuous position, but do whatever needs to be done (negotiating breaks, more time off etc.) to ensure you give your body the fullest chance to recover. There really are no shortcuts (other than being sensible about nutrition, rest, and exercise) and if you push too hard you may actually set yourself back. Wishing you the best.
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Peg, one more thing. Since you have a desk job, you probably can manage. But for the first two weeks, I couldn't stay in any one position for too long. I found myself moving every hour or so from sofa to chair to bed, and I carried pillows around everywhere and arranged them depending on what body part was most achy. Since you probably don't have a sofa at your disposal at work, you might want to be sure you have some sort of step stool or something to put your feet up, as well as a collection of small, firm pillows. I also found that it was helpful to stand up from time to time and walk around. Pretend you're on a long airplane flight and make yourself take a short walk every hour or so, just to get the blood flowing.
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Thanks, everyone - this has been very helpful - especially appreciate the details/alternative suggestions. Rainnyc - we do have fairly similar timelines, and your recent history has helped a lot. Will ck out the TORADOL thread. Good idea about something to put my feet up on - can probably do that. Adjusting the chair to reach the computer, and the time on it, will be the real test.
So appreciate everyone's input - glad to hear some stories of quick turn-arounds - will do as my body tells me, but as I've learned with chemo - you do feel better if you get up and around. Hope that is easily accomplished.
Will keep you posted.
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