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  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2015

    musosgirl - you also have the option from the SOFT trial of ovarian suppression which would allow you to take an aromatase inhibitor instead of tamoxifen. This is thought to be more beneficial for those who are younger, and not perimenopausal. This option might allow you to stay on Paxil if you are doing well on it and don't want to have to come off - which I believe you would if you took Tamoxifen. Here is the trial info:

    http://www.ascopost.com/ViewNews.aspx?nid=20664

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited October 2015

    So I went to see my OB/GYN to discuss an ooph. He told me absolutely not, no way. My MO said the same thing. they said that my ovaries provide a lot of other benefits, and that I was far too young to have them out. Sooooooooo current plan is ovarian suppression for at least the next two years and take it from there.

    I don't know who was asking about Herceptin only - there are a couple of the people on the board on Herceptin only. They are rare though, but some MO's will ok it. For what it's worth - I had only 1.5mm of IDC. I went for the Taxol/Herceptin combo. I was too young, and her2 was too scary - for me, I wanted the protection even if it was overkill.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited October 2015

    Well I was switched from femara to aromasin (sp) to see if it will help with the joint and muscle pain and cramping. Only on it 5 days so we'll see. Love, Jean

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2015
    SpecialK, thank you for the info! I will ask my MO this week what he was thinking. None of the options sound particularly appealing. Just another benefit of joining the club no one wants to be a part of!
  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2015
    Tresjoli2, my SIL is a nurse and she was dead set against an ooph for the same reason you mentioned. Only my MO has acted like it is an option. With my BS against it (and my GYN was the one insistent I see her) I highly doubt he will be for an ooph--he is pretty conservative--and if he has to treat aggressively he is rather anal about it--when he had to put me on a PICC line he kept me in the hospital and saw me everyday, he would not let me go home on home healthcare.

    But I am way ahead myself again. I need to focus on the next 9 weeks of chemo. Then surgery. Then radiation. THEN hormonal suppression and trying to keep my beloved Paxil.
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2015

    zjrosenthal I'm doing much better on Exemestane (Aromasin) than Anastrozole (Arimidex). Been on it almost 1.5 year now after 3 years on Anastrozole.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited October 2015

    Have not been posting for a long time, but find myself needing help. This week five of my fingernails have become loose, just like they did while being on Taxol. My chemo was in 2013. Has anyone else experienced this besides me?

  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited October 2015

    Cause for much optimism for all of us. Lots of promising research on the her2 Pos front :)

    The latest..

    ..http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-10-two-hit-ther...

  • Kthielen
    Kthielen Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2015

    honey bair,

    I am not as far out as you but all of my nails lifted during chemo and then 10 months after my chemo was done they all lifted again:/

    Crazy, not sure why??


  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited October 2015

    I have been going back and forth on what to do for hormone therapy I am 30 but after reading that soft trial again I definitely think I'm going for oopherectomy I would rather deal with complications from ovary removal than cancer again I can't go through this agai

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited October 2015

    I had my ooph on Monday, healing well. I have to say that all my joint and bone pain is gone. My plantar fasciitis has also disappeared. I am puzzled, but feeling that my body really was fighting the tamoxifen. I am still taking the tamoxifen, but the SEs have disappeared in the past two days. Maybe the surgery ache is just drawing my attention away from other aches and pains, but I really don't think that is the case. Has anyone else experienced this? My thought process even feels clearer. How weird...

  • Kira9383
    Kira9383 Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2015

    Hi all,

    I am writing on behalf of my mother. She was diagnosed with extensive DCIS in July and just had a mastectomy two Fridays ago. Path reports showed there was a small amount of IDC (<1cm) and also micro metastases to 2/3 sentinel lymph nodes that were removed during surgery (.22mm). She is triple positive and is entering a clinical trial (ATEMPT) at Dana Farber next week. We are still unclear whether she will need radiation. Anyone have a similar diagnosis? Her surgeon said she is cancer free and this is only to prevent recurrences but I don't see how that is possible. What if there are more cancer cells in axillary lymph nodes or that have spread to other parts of her body? This is all so new to us. Any opinions would be much appreciated! Thanks!

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited October 2015

    Ashla, my friend in Germany was treated with interferon-gamma for bc. It made her quite sick, but she is still here many years later! I wish I had known about it when I had treatment. It seems they need to be done consecutively and in a timely manner....not 5 years later : )

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited October 2015

    Kira sorry you are here for your mother, the chemo is the tried and true for BC now that she has had surgery, I have triple positive and for now they can at least fight this scourge .All the major research hospitals are trying to eliminate this disease so they will treat it aggressively, unless you mom is to weak, hopefully she will be cancer free soon.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2015

    Kira9383 your mom is being treated at one of the top 4 cancer treatment centers in the country. linky If you are concerned go get a 2nd opinion with someone at Mass General (in the top 8).

    There are no easy answers. Medical science is not exact but they don't want to over treat your mom either. All treatments and meds have side effects, even aspirin. DCIS can be tricky though. Beesie is seems to be very knowledgeable about DCIS. Try to contact her.


    also check this out: linky

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited October 2015

    Quick question: do the chemopause hot flashes dissipate after chemo is over, or do I need to learn to live with them for the 10 years on Tamoxifen, too? Figured I'd ask the experts. :)

    I'm halfway done with chemo, and trying not to entertain dark thoughts about statistics and mets and whatnot. It's just hard for me to get my head around the idea that there's a possibility that clean nodes doesn't necessarily improve DFS stats. My fingers (and toes) are crossed that 1) Herceptin/Perjeta is the wonder combo it's touted to be, and 2) that today's echo shows good LVF and I can keep getting HP.

    lago, I find myself returning to your two "speeches," so I thank you again for posting them.

    During my last infusion, I had a weird reaction to the Carboplatin (my stomach started to feel like it was eating itself). My doc--who is wonderful--put me on Protonix, but I'm seriously considering asking her to reduce or drop the Carbo. From what I've read, it's the taxane that's most important--is that correct?

    In the interest of my own education, I've been watching the Ken Burns/PBS Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies. It's fascinating and well worth watching, if you're so inclined.


  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited October 2015

    Geewhiz

    I read as most as possible regarding Breast cancer ( most of it way beyond my comprehension) but this is the first I've read about this interferon direction. I remember that interferon was used in Hep C treatment and had serious side effects but that was long ago.

    Much of the progress being made in Breast cancer treatment is in the her2 pos arena. Piggybacking on the Herceptin dicovery. In addition to lowering treatment toxicity and duration, My great hope is that this will be a breakthrough in metastatic disease treatment

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2015

    Kira - for most of us surgery removes the cancer, and systemic treatment is an insurance/mop-up situation. She will receive appropriate treatment with either arm of the ATEMPT trial, but you always have the choice of opting for Taxol/Herceptin and withdrawing from the trial if you have concerns. There are a couple of threads here that have ladies who had that combination for small Her2+ tumors. If you put Taxol Herceptin in the search box they should come up. It is possible that since your mom had micromets in the axillary nodes that radiation may be recommended if there is not a recommendation for further axillary clearance surgery. It would be worth a consult with a radiation oncologist. Good luck!

    Kate - maybe your MO could do a dose reduction on your Carboplatin? Since the FDA approval for Perjeta is for use with both T and C I think it matters, just not sure how much. Def a query for your MO. Did you feel this just during infusion, or did it continue

  • Gretagirl
    Gretagirl Member Posts: 182
    edited October 2015

    Tresjoii2 I asked about using herceptin only. I saw only one trial of it at Baylor. I have 2 TCH treatments left but was curious. I spoke to radiologist and will do radiation after chemo then on to tamoxifen or something in that ares foe my ER PR diagnosis. Will have a echo Monday and if all is well will continue Hereceptin. Amazing how something so small can cause so much havoc!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited October 2015

    SpecialK, I had a lot of stomach (and intestinal) problems with rounds one and two. Third time around, I had the reaction in the chair, and then it waned a bit. I've been taking the Protonix, and I think it's helping. . . . I'll ask her to consider reducing the dose. I'd just as soon not get the Carbo at all (I've also got some mild anemia going on), but I definitely want to stay on the Perjeta for the full six rounds. I'll check back in to report what she says.

    She told me rounds 4-6 are easier other than the fatigue (maybe because I know what to expect), and I'm going with that. Three was definitely the least horrible so far. :)

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2015

    Kate - both chemotherapeutic agents can cause anemia, so eliminating the C may not improve that situation. My experience is in line with what your MO says regarding successive rounds - better control of many SE, but I did have increased fatigue and lower blood counts. Interestingly, the last one, #6, was my easiest in terms of SE, but I was super tired

  • lauragirl
    lauragirl Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2015

    Hi everyone here. I have been reading this blog for a while now, finally got some courage and decided to post. I got diagnosed 4 mths back with stage 2 IDC, triple positive. Im 25 years old and although I have learn to accept it, it has been very tough on me and my family. I lost my mother 2 years back to BC as well. BRCA1 and 2 both came back negative as well as 20 other gene tests. Dealing with it a second time has been so painful.

    Currently Im doing AC chemo once every 3 weeks as well as the neulasta. The neulasta has given me severe neck and muscle spasms. Its so bad I can't even turn my head. Been suffering since a week. Has anyone had this type of reaction to neulasta? Some days its hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It feels so grim and difficult.

    All the best to everyone here and whose going through the same.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited October 2015

    SpecialK, that's good news. I can deal with fatigue; it's the digestive stuff and the steroid crazies that did me in for rounds one and two. My next round is a week from today--I'll be 2/3 of the way done, and that feels like cause for celebration. I swear just yesterday I was on this very board, trying to wrap my head around the diagnosis and wondering what was going to happen. Now I know. :)

    lauragirl, welcome. Feel free to join us over at the August chemo board, too (even if you started in September). Ask any questions you have (here or over there)--everyone here is fantastic, not to mention knowledgable.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2015

    Laura - welcome but sorry you are here, and so young - this should not be happening to you. Sorry too about the loss of your mom to BC, it has to be even more scary for you, and I'm sure you are missing her. Are you taking Claritin prior to, and for several days followingyour Neulasta injection?

  • lauragirl
    lauragirl Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2015

    Hi KateB79, thank you will join the chemo board for sure.

    SpecialK, I miss her too much, it really feels unfair at times :( I didn't take claritin, my oncologist didn't inform me to take it. With this reaction so severe I think next one I should definitely take it though.

    Does it all get easier? Life is just tough.

  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited October 2015

    hi Lauragirl !

    We'll all help you get through this :)


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2015

    lauragirl - I hope it does get better for you, and I get it - lost both my dad and only sibling to stage IV cancer. Take 10mg of Claritin or generic loratidine at least an hour prior to your injection. Continue at 24 hour intervals for at least a few days. A number of ladies here also felt they got good pain relief from Aleve. I also took some hot baths

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2015
    Kate, my MO cut my Carbo by a 1/4. It made a difference in cycle 2 and he set the change for cycles 4-6. Hoping it helps again! I started the documentary last night while I had steroid insomnia. Very interesting! No help here on the hot flash issue--anxiety triggers them for me so the hormonal hot flashes will be new territory. I wonder if our bodies will adjust and calm down? Hopefully it is not a permanent side effect. That sounds very reasonable considering my track record with meds.

    My nurse SIL and BS are both adamently opposed to a hysterectomy or ooph. My MO says it is a good option. But my husband pointed out the reasons they give are very gender based. SIL and BS are female and feel it is invasive, drastic, and negatively affects womanhood. My male MO says it is easier and cheaper in the long run. I am glad DH pointed that out. But my MO wants me to pursue seeing what changes we can make from my Paxil--my PCP said he would try to consult with the original prescribing psychiatrist (I can't unless I want to self admit myself to the hospital psych ward for a 3-day minimum stay). That psych doc is the best in the area and I really want to see what he says. MO thinks we should try Tamoxifen first before trying hormone suppression with an AI or the hysterectomy plus ?. The other concern is that I could not tolerate hormonal birth control and he is not sure about me tolerating hormone suppression--that's a discussion for my GYN I think. This is so complicated and everyone says I shouldn't bother with it now, but if I am switching anti-anxiety meds we need to start that process in Feb. to make sure I am stable on the right med well before starting Tamoxifen in August.
  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited October 2015

    Musogirl,

    Maybe you could find an anti-anxiety med that works well with both Tamoxifen and the AIs so you could have stable meds, regardless of what hormonal therapy you end up taking. When Aromasin made me tearful and moody, my MO prescribed Celexa. It's worked well for me so far.

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2015
    I was suicidal on Celexa and ended up on the psych ward for a quick 3 day switcharoo. That is why I am SO hesitant to go making changes. I respond terribly to medication in general...

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