Anyone else out there....decided not to take their Tamoxifen?

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tangandchris
tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855

I'm struggling ya'll, I feel at peace sometimes and other times I feel panicked about it. I decided in July that I was done trying to take Tamox and dealing with how bad I felt on it. The last go around I had with it I felt so depressed and sad that I was not functioning well. I just said enough, I cannot do this anymore!!

Now, I'm switching MO's and I don't even know if I want to tell him because I know what I'm going to hear. I see him on 10/4 and I'm starting to feel anxious about it.

I'm sick and tired of BC stealing my joy you know what I mean? I'm trying to move forward and away from this awful time and dealing with SE's of Tamox just brings me back down.

Has anyone else made any similar decisions?

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  • fizzdon52
    fizzdon52 Member Posts: 568
    edited September 2015

    No because no matter how bad it makes me feel, it might just be what is keeping me alive and I just couldn't risk it!

  • radgal
    radgal Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2015

    What were your side effects tangandchris?

  • leger
    leger Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2015

    Hi Tangandchris,

    I took it for about 10 months and I quit taking it in June. I had all the "common" side effects, but the worse by far was the darkness (for lack of a better word) and the severe depression. I made myself get up and go to work and function because I had no choice, but it was one of the hardest things I have ever come up against. I just decided that life had to have more meaning even if I develop a recurrence of BC. I was/am on Zoloft and an anti-anxiety when needed. None of which helped while on tamoxifen.

    Good luck

  • murielwhite5
    murielwhite5 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2015

    Hi,Everyone out there on Tamoxifen and the other AI treatments. I have been on the AI's and Tamoxifen. The AI's made me crippled so I went on the tamoxifen hoping that it would be better however I have a few problems and I am wondering if its the Tamoxifen. My BP shot up several weeks ago and now my BP medication has been doubled. For the past few months I have had burning, pins and needles and electric shock pains in my feet which I thought was neuropathy but I went to the podiatrist today and he said my feet nerves were fine and he wondered if it was the hormone treatment? I too am wondering how long I can stay on these drugs. At the end of the day you have to have quality of life over fear of recurrence. Lots of ladies seem to have recurrence despite being on hormone treatment. Would welcome any comments on this.

  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited September 2015

    Tangandchris, at the time when your depression developed (or increased) did you talk to your MO? Maybe you could try a different antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication, or a higher dose. I've had severe SEs on Tamoxifen and my MO has been very helpful and supportive. He said that for me, if my current test at a half-dose doesn't work, he will be ok with me stopping because my cancer was grade 1 and node negative. He said though that he currently has a patient who had many positive nodes and she's struggling with SEs as well. He said they're doing everything they can to help her continue because the risk is so great. I wouldn't blame you if you find that you just can't do it, but it's definitely worth a try working with your (new) MO to see if you can find a way to decrease the SEs enough to stay on it. Good luck to you!

  • Professor50
    Professor50 Member Posts: 220
    edited September 2015

    I am one who has tried tamoxifen and an OS+AI regimen and am now back on tamoxifen. My first go round with tamoxifen (about 6 months), I could not tolerate the mental fog. So I switched (for about 4 months). I found the OS+AI to be very hard. I was barely able to walk. I couldn't put my shoes on because the joints in my feet were so swollen. I could barely move. (And I am a mover! I was running everyday, swimming, walking, etc. I just felt like my body was hardening into a stiff sore lump). So. I am back on tamoxifen now. I found myself inspired by women I met who were also on tamoxifen who said, "yes it has some effects on me, but I am sticking it out. I can compromise and I can come up with new ways to accomplish things." I felt like I could give it another chance and really work hard to do whatever I could to stay on a drug that just might save my life. Now, I have dear friend who could not take tamoxifen because it wouldn't work with her antidepressant. She is on an OS+AI combo that works for her and she is able to stay on an antidepressant that works for her.

    My advice is this: EXPLORE YOUR OPTIONS. There are many different AIs, there is even raloxifene, a drug that works like tamoxifen that might work better for you. There is not just one hormonal therapy to combat a recurrence. Talk to your MO about options. There is not just one choice and if you don't take it, you're done. Don't settle! and Good luck!

  • kateness
    kateness Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2015

    I lasted on Tamoxifen for about 18 months. It was more than 5 years ago, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I simply couldn't foresee another 3+ years living like that. Darkness is a good word for it. I wish I could remember better whether or not I was still on Lexapro at the same time, but I sort of think I was. At the time I didn't have good contact with doctors (I had moved out of state away from my beloved OB/GYN and I had not switched to a local MO) so exploring options and doses of things didn't seem a great option. Flash forward to now: I was diagnosed in June with ER-/PR- stage IIA IDC. I suppose if it was hormone positive I'd regret stopping the Tamoxifen. But I also think that even the truncated course I took was helpful.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited September 2015

    Hi everyone!

    Well the worst for me was the depression and as someone mentioned it was a dark place for sure. I felt at times that I didn't want to go on, I don't want to say suicidal, but I wondered what was the point of life. It was scary and overwhelming and I cried a lot.

    As far as the physical SE's, I felt tired, but had insomnia, foggy brain....those were the worst. Oh and I had ear ringing which was really strange.

    I'm going to work on a list of questions to take with me to the new MO and I plan on brining this up. My original MO told me that Tamox was only option since I was premenopausal at dx, but I haven't had a period since 2/13 because of chemo.

    anyway, that's where I'm at....none of this is easy :(

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited September 2015

    I chose not to take Tamoxifen for a variety for reasons: OC wasn't sure I needed it-she said there was an 80-85% chance I'd never have a recurrence even if I didn't take it, that surgery and RADS alone were enough for me and there was no guarantee Tamoxifen would work, that is if I were among the 15-20% with my stats that might have a recurrence, it only prevents about 1/2 of these expected recurrences. The possible side affects are pretty bad-so basically I couldn't see how anyone could call it either safe or effective, but lots of women do fine on it and because it does prevent about 1/2 of all recurrences we are talking about saving lots and lots of women just because so many of us are diagnosed with BC, but on the personal for me level, odds are I'll be fine w/o it.

    My mother progressed to stage IV while taking tamoxifen and my OC declined to test me to see if I was a good metabolizer (inability to matabolize Tamoxifen tends to be hereditary) so I said thanks, but no thanks. Going with the big numbers, that 80-85% chance I've already done enough. Neither my BS nor my OC seemed to think ovarian suppression (premenopausal-barely-at time of diagnosis) with an AI was a good plan for me. BS in particular thought that was overkill in my case. I planned to get my ovaries out as hormone therapy with OC's blessing, but since I recovered from RADS in Feb, I've had my period only one time and if my ovaries aren't doing much of anything, I"ll just leave them alone.

    I am now exercising (I was slug before BC), taking a variety of supplements and actively working on stress reduction and calling it good enough. I think we all do everything we can-for some it is exercise and/or diet or a pill a day or whatever) to prevent this from coming back, because no one wants to deal BC again, but I could not talk myself into taking Tamoxifen no matter how hard I tried.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2015

    Just an update....

    So I went to my new MO yesterday, met him and felt that he listened to me and heard me out. He wasn't able to answer some of my questions, but he said he would research and let me know. He is wondering if I may be okay doing oophorectomy and AI's, he tested my estrogen and FSH level and we'll go from there. I'm not sure that I'm on board with that option at this point, but it's something to consider. He didn't try to downplay my issues or basically brush me off and I appreciate that!

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